Muslim Passion for Christ


Like everyone else, I was warned about the blood and violence, and braced for it. But the bit about the English subscripts must have slipped my mind. One unexpected thing I got out of watching "The Passion of the Christ" is its affirmation that Jesus never uttered the word "God." Instead, he called upon the Creator using a name that is very close to what I and other Muslims often evoke, namely, the word "Allah." (The Aramaic word for God is transliterated as "alaha.") 

In a broad sense, "The Passion," as well as the controversy that stalks it, is an extension of the very long struggle for narrative control over the life and mission of Jesus. We, the American public, are given the impression that the discussion about the movie and its main character is a discourse between folks on both sides of a curious hyphen in the Judeo-Christian ambit, with Rabbis and Jewish intelligentsia expressing their fears that the movie will inspire anti-Semitism and with Christians denying that. 

The irony here is that Muslims are perfectly poised to offer a view that no one seems to be talking about. What "The Passion" depicted in chilling imagery is but one narrative among several about Christ. In fact, Gibson portrayed one "canonized" narrative of Christ (only 12 hours of it) that received approval some centuries after the Messiah had lived and one that does not enjoy consensus even in Christian quarters and scholarship. When asked, a Muslim will tell you that Christ was not sent to die, but, like the prophets before him and Prophet Muhammad after him, he was sent to live and teach. In short, a Muslim would say there is no Christ killer and, therefore, no need to associate anyone with that indictment and no need to cause anyone to fear it. What happened to Jesus at the end of his life was not about violence, but about honor in the face of vehement rejection. God raised His prophet to Himself, thus sparing Jesus of the execution Gibson so graphically detailed and imprinted in the public mind through the very powerful medium of art and culture. This is a view that was also shared among some early Christian sects, like the Basilideans, who believed that Christ himself was never crucified. 

To vilify Jesus and deny that he is one of God's prophets and messengers is a cardinal sin in Islam, enough to disqualify one from the faith. To deify Jesus, however, is considered an affront to the primordial foundation of the religion project: the oneness of God and His sole divinity. The Muslim "middle" view here is not a self-conscious act of officiating a religious debate between Jews and Christians. Our understanding and beliefs regarding Christ are essentially identical to the beliefs we have about Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Muhammad: all prophets, all humans, sent by God to teach humanity certain things that should keep us guided and clear in our very brief lives. If we are ever to be confused about something, let it not be about God and His divinity, and humankind and our humanity, especially as it pertains to our salvation quest. In Islamic theology, the human being is born pure, brought into this world in a state of grace. The concept of Original Sin is essentially homeless in our tradition. We inherit eye color and receding hairlines from our parents, not their wrongdoing. Forgiveness, pardoning, and mercy are of God's essence, and He generously bestows them for the cool price of belief and sincerity. 

In an important way, "The Passion" is an accidental expose about the religious sensitivities of our times, about a wounded spirituality that seems to require sensationalism to keep the faithful going. This is a point that men and women of religion may all agree upon and observe in their respective flocks. Mel Gibson unwittingly may have done a service in raising issues indigenous to the human spirit that the postmodern world seems to shun, issues about God, prophets, salvation, mercy, and hope. It's a vital conversation with divides and alliances, passions and perils, but a conversation that nonetheless can stand to hear the "middle" view that Islam naturally offers. Something of this view, in unavoidably brief fashion, now follows: 

Muslims love and revere Jesus, and believe in him as a Prophet and Messenger of God, a great teacher and guide for people. But Muslims do not believe that Jesus was God or the Son of God. Nor do Muslims believe that he was slain on the cross, as some early sects of Christians had once believed. Jesus was sent to the Children of Israel to revive faith and a spiritual connection with God. All the miracles that Jesus performed were indeed true: raising the dead, healing the blind and the leper, and more. These miracles, however, occurred through the auspices of God's power and will, as it was with the splitting of the sea for Moses, Solomon understanding the utterances of animals, and many other suspensions of the natural order. God is the Creator, and when He determines something, He but says to it "Be" and it is! (as the Quran states). Muslims venerate Mary, the mother of Jesus. She indeed gave birth to Jesus though she was a virgin. She was a spiritual woman who was chosen among her people to the office of special contemplation and prayer. But Muslims do not hold her to be the "mother of God" and similar attributes. She too was fully human and was a beloved and important person in a remarkable series of miracles in a special time in human history.

Every biology and miracle, the explainable and the inexplicable, whether it is the creation of Adam from clay or the conception of any given child of two parents, goes back to God. It is all the same to Him. All of it easy. All of it His. In Islamic parlance, Jesus (peace be upon him) is known by the venerable titles of "Word" and "Spirit," since the Quran tells us that God cast the "word" or "spirit" upon Mary, the Mother of Jesus. "Indeed, the angels said: 'O Mary! God gives you glad tidings of a word from Him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, illustrious in this world and the Hereafter, and he shall be among those brought near [to God]. He will speak to humankind in the cradle and in manhood, and he is of the righteous" (Quran, 3:45). 

Also, the Quran states: "The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was but a Messenger of God, and His word which He conveyed to Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him" (Quran, 4:171). "And indeed God gave Moses the Book [Torah], and after him We sent Messengers in succession. We gave Jesus son of Mary clear proofs and strengthened him with the Holy Spirit [Angel Gabriel]" (Quran, 2:87). 

The thought life of a Muslim with regard to all the prophets is best summed by the following verse of the Quran: "Say [O believers]: 'We believe in God and [the Book] sent down to us, and what was sent down to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes; and what was given to Moses and Jesus and what was given to [all] the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him do we surrender ourselves'" (Quran 2:136). 

Ibrahim N. Abusharif is a Chicago-area writer and editor of Starlatch Press. He can be contacted via e-mail at [email protected]


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Older Comments:
MUSA SARKAR FROM USA said:
It is very funny that Jane Andrews says this article is very interesting and refreshing, but she chose to be against it. Plus she and Malcolm Walker are trying to preach us here which are totally inappropriate. I just like to tell them a line from the Holy Quran, "Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion." I would also urge them to fix the thousands of errors in the Bible first. I will just add one here:

Mathew Chapter 15:
22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. 23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. 24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. 26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.

Mark Ch 16:
15He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. 16Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. 17And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well."

Which one is correct? Was Jesus sent only for the tribes of Israel or for the whole world? Which one will we accept or reject? Who will decide that? Can we call these verses inerrant words of God?

Based on the criteria set by Mark Ch 16, can Jane and Malcolm demonstrate some of the paranormal characteristics mentioned in those verses? Can they speak in any foreign languages without learning it? Can they drink poison? Can they heal people with any diseases just by a mere touch? Hmmm
2004-12-24

JANE DIANE ANDREWS FROM USA said:
Our sin must be forgiven before we can be in the presence of the Most High, Creator of all, the God of Abraham.

Obedient Abraham made sacrifices of spotless animals to receive forgivness of his family's sin. He was even willing to sacrifice his own son in obedience to God.

Jesus is God's perfect sacrifice for our sin.

Yahya, otherwise known as John the Baptist, is mentioned in the Qu'ran as so:
Marium
[19.7] O Zakariya! surely We give you good news of a boy whose name shall be Yahya: We have not made before anyone his equal.
[19.12] O Yahya! take hold of the Book with strength, and We granted him wisdom while yet a child

Why is this important when we are discussing the Passion of Jesus?

Yahya led the way for Jesus the Messiah:
Qu'ran
The Family of Imran
[3.45] When the angels said: O Marium, surely Allah gives you good news with a Word from Him (of one) whose name is the '. Messiah, Isa (Jesus) son of Marium, worthy of regard in this world and the hereafter and of those who are made near (to Allah).


What did Yahya say about Jesus?




New Testament of the Bible
John 1


29The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 30This is the one I meant when I said, 'A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.'

Jesus did die on that cross but he rose again because death could not hold Him.

If you have doubts about this, ask Allah (pbuh) yourself. With a pure heart ask Him if Jesus didn't die for you. I will assume that most Muslims talk to Allah(pbuh)all of the time and I believe that He will talk to your heart about this since Jesus said:

Bible
Luke 11
10For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.

http://www.hti.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=DIV0&byte=72808

http://www.hti.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=DIV0&byte=46
2004-04-28

JANE DIANE ANDREWS FROM USA said:
For Allah (pbuh) to forgive sin there must be a sacrifice. Jesus was that perfect sacrifice.

Yahya, otherwise known as, John the Baptist was spoken of in the Qu'ran:
Marium
1. [19.7] O Zakariya! surely We give you good news of a boy whose name shall be Yahya: We have not made before anyone his equal.
2. [19.12] O Yahya! take hold of the Book with strength, and We granted him wisdom while yet a child

The teachings of John were recorded in the New Testament of the Bible:
John
29The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "LOOK, THE LAMB OF GOD, who takes away the sin of the world! 30This is the one I meant when I said, 'A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.' 31I myself did not know him, but the reason I came baptizing with water was that he might be revealed to Israel."
32Then John gave this testimony: "I saw the Spirit come down from heaven as a dove and remain on him. 33I would not have known him, except that the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, 'The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is he who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.' 34I have seen and I testify that this is the Son of God."

Qu'ran, Marium
[3.45] When the angels said: O Marium, surely Allah gives you good news with a Word from Him (of one) whose name is the '. Messiah, Isa (Jesus) son of Marium, worthy of regard in this world and the hereafter and of those who are made near (to Allah).


With a pure heart, ask Allah (phuh) for yourself and see what he says about Jesus dying for your personal sins.

On a personal note: Thank you for your article. It was wonderfully positive.

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http://www.hti.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=simple&q1=yahya&size=First+100

http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?language=english&version=NIV&passage=John&x=10&y=5


2004-04-27

MALCOLM WALKER, JR. FROM USA said:
I believe that the Bible is the Holy and inspired word of God. The Koran is only one person's interpretation. The Bible has many different people , inspired by God, all who profess their belief in Jesus Christ (which was foretold in the Old Testament many times of his birth, death, and resurection)even though they may have said it in different words, it is unmistakable that they anch were saying the same thing. As far as I know the Koran contains none of this about Muhammed. Muhammed was only a prophet, and some may say that Jesus was also, but Jesus was the only one that has promised eternal life for those who believe in him
2004-04-12

C FROM US said:
I like the writer's point of view, but I believe that Jesus was in fact violently and brutally treated and crucified. He suffered not by the will of God but by the will of man. He wanted very much to save people and be a teacher to the masses, but he was in fact violently crucified and killed for speaking out.
2004-04-07

OMRAN FROM EARTH said:
Remeber that the actor who acted a christ was struct by lightning during the movie. Ans if you read chapter ( the thunder, al-Raad) you will find a verse that says the Allah send structs lighting on those who despute about him. And remeber that the Qura.an talk about people of the scripture are in dispute. do you think we should watch the movie
salam
2004-04-05

YAHYA BERGUM FROM USA said:
My sentiments exactly, Alice Maged! Even with expressions such as "our heavenly father" and "the son of man," the FIRST FOUR books of the New Testament are quite arguably "the Gospel" to which Christians are supposed to look for guidance. As for, "all the revelation that has come from your Lord," that might arguably include the Qur'an, especially considering that you yourself are appealing to one of its verses, in making your case. God be praised!

Perhaps you can help me with something. I can not seem to find the term "trinity" defined anywhere in the Bible. Personally, I am wondering if this might perhaps be the reason why Qur'an 4:171 admonishes Christians to desist in promoting the "three person" concept. Also, why might angels appear to have been omitted from this arrangement? The Gospel certainly testifies to the existence of angels, does it not? Why might you suppose that the angels would have been excluded from such a divine association?

I apologize for all the questions. I am grateful for your efforts in encouraging others to seek the truth. May God reward you for good works and intentions (Ameen).

It is my belief that Muhammad is (also!) God's messenger.

Peace be unto you, Alice Maged.
2004-04-01

NAJMA FROM BANGLADESH said:
This is an excellent article. Something which I always wanted to explain to my christian friends, but did not have enough research materials to prove the point. Thank you once again. I have forwarded the article to my colleague who spend many hours trying to convince me. However, we are not to convince people or argue with them, we are here only to convey the message of Allah Subhanullah.
2004-03-31

RIFQUAT GIWA FROM USA said:
I couldn't have articulated it better. It's such an excellent article.
2004-03-31

ALICE MAGED FROM USA said:
Some argue that the New Testament, while originally inspired by God, was infiltrated by errors and untruths in the course of a few centuries. The question must be asked, in the interests of truth, did this corruption occur before Mohammed wrote the Qu'ran, or after? It could not possibly be after, because by the 600's there were thousands of copies of the New Testament being used throughout the Mediterranean world, and it would be logistically impossible to corrupt the entire supply, such that the truth was really lost.

So if error entered, it must have been before Mohammed's time. How then does Mohammed refer to the Gospels as authoritative and truthful (Sura 5:50, 10:94) ? For example: "Say: 'O People of the Book! ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord.' " (5:68)

There is an inescapable logical conflict here: Mohammed cannot be commanding obedience to an already corrupt book, yet the Gospels could not have been corrupted after Mohammed's time (and historical evidence shows clearly that they indeed were not). This contradiction deserves serious and prayerful thought.
2004-03-31

REV.DR. WENDY.YONA NOON FROM USA said:
judas escariot was the high priest who wanted jesus
out of the way.

judas & jesus were both students of the essenes or
at the dead sea where they re.wrote the laws of noah
scribed by moses & reScribed over & over by students
who lived with the teachers, the hermit essenes.

after judas had jesus krusified on the day Passover Began, he then turned his sites to the destruction
of their teachers & fellow students...the buried
scrolls speak of the "good priest" vs "evil priest".

Those who do not follow "a Lord" albiet judas escariot who was the Kaballist or Jake the Fake;
but as the winning warrier...

Today, there is so much lead in the air from
the cars that expel lead & metal particles that
go into our brains & blood cells...and our time
is fractured hourly instead of hours per subject
allowing us comprehensive learning & thinking.

Thank You for learning how to develop thoughts
of old to new, AllAway$ ToTeTher.
2004-03-27

IBRAHEEM ALABI EL-IS-HAQ FROM NIHERIA said:
I am in full support of your article. It is well reseached
2004-03-26

UM SARA-SUMIYA FROM UK said:
An excellent way to an introduction of Muslim believe, and especially with regard to the monoteism and acceptance of ALL prophets and that includes Isa (AS). might use as a 'dawa' material while talking to my parents.
Masha Allah
2004-03-24

YUSUF FROM SOUTH AFRICA said:
Quote:
....."Stay, Jesus, for we need to know who you are, for the quieting of our nation." Jesus answered: "I am Jesus, son of Mary, of the seed of David, a man that is mortal and fears God, and I seek that to God be given honour and glory."
The priest answered: "In the Book of Moses it is written that our God must send us the Messiah, who shall come to announce to us that which God wills, and shall bring to the world the mercy of God. Therefore I pray you tell us the truth, are you the Messiah of God whom we expect?"
Jesus answered: "It is true that God has so promised, but indeed I am not he, for he is made before me, and shall come after me." The priest answered: "By your words and signs at any rate we believe you to be a prophet and an holy one of God, wherefore I pray you in the name of all Judea and Israel that you for love of God should tell us in what wise the Messiah will come.
Chapter 97
Jesus answered: "As God lives, in whose presence my soul stands, I am not the Messiah whom all the tribes of the earth expect, even as God promised to our father Abraham, saying: "In your seed will I bless all the tribes of the earth." But when God shall take me away from the world, Satan will raise again this accursed sedition, by making the impious believe that I am God and son of God, whence my words and my doctrine shall be contaminated, insomuch that scarcely shall there remain thirty faithful ones: whereupon God will have mercy upon the world, and will send his Messenger for whom he has made all things who shall come from the south with power, and shall destroy the idols with the idolaters who shall take away the dominion from Satan which he has over men. He shallbring with him the mercy of God for salvation of them that shall believe in him, and blessed is he who shall believe his words.
"Unworthy though I am to untie his hosen, I have received grace and mercy from God to see him." Then answered the priest,
2004-03-24

MUSLIMAH 1 FROM USA said:
In response to Brian, "He claimed to be the doorway and gate to Heaven". All prophets are the doorway to heaven, only those who believe and follow their examples enter heaven. As to the other statements you made about Jesus, such as "He claimed to be the Son of God." You must be aware of the fact that the Bible has been changed from its original content and that from the Nicean Creed on the belief of who Jesus was, was completely altered. As a matter of fact, the Christians in the holy land and surrounding lands believed he was a prophet and the European Christians were the ones who believed he was more than a human, they believed he was a diety, the son of God. This is easy to explain, because the Europeans were pagans before the message of Jesus reached them. They believed in a multitude of dieties who were made up of families headed by the most powerful patriarch diety. They also believed that some of those dieties had children from female humans and they had superhuman powers. So it is clear why they interpreted the miracles of Jesus and the fact that he was born from a virgin in the context of their pagan beliefs. Tragically, Middle Eastern Christians were killed in great numbers and persecuted for centuries because they refiused to accept the Nicean Creed of Jesus to be a divinity.

Another very simple fact that contradicts the Christian belief of Jesus is the Judaic Law. Such claim at the time would have been considered blasphemous and he would not have had any hearing from the religious leaders and certainly he would not have lived one more day after such claim. The laws against such blasphemy were execution, and his followers would had to recant or they would have been all killed too. The fact that he was not killed for a long period and his followers were not killed indicates that such claim was not made. Also, Jesus said he came to confirm what came before him, with that statement he contradicts the belief of a trinity.
2004-03-24

MUSLIMAH FROM UNITED STATES said:
salaam. any movie, book, voice of opinion that slanders any prophet does not need to be watched, read or heard. i did not see the movie, nor do i wish to watch the movie for the simple fact that it is seen by a christians point of view and they are slandering (telling lies about isa (a.s.).remeber, this is their version. we as muslims know the truth should not nor need to engage such false accusations. its an insult to isa(a.s.)salaam. we know the truth by reading the qruran and hadith so it would be bad character on a muslims part to indulge in this.
2004-03-24

BRIAN FROM USA said:
I would liked to have clicked the I am for it as well. I find that there is a partial truth in what is being stated. Yes, Jesus was a prophet and a messenger of God. But we must also assess what Jesus said about himself. Is he a liar, and insane man, or was he speaking truth? He claimed to be the Son of God. He claimed to be the Son of Man (reference in the apoclyptic Jewish writings). He claimed to be the doorway and gate to Heaven. He made claims that He is the only one to know the Father, and to know the Father is only possible through Him. Jesus made the claim of being "I Am". This is not a claim of saying I am Jesus, but it is the name God uses in Genesis to describe His being. The claims about Jesus are that He was the Messiah to the Jews, that is correct, but salvation has always come through God's chosen people, Judaism. Islam and Christianity are not the chose faiths, Judiaism is. Jesus is the completion of Judaism and the Law. To believe in Him is to accept the truth of the Jewish Faith, that God is One, and that Jesus was the promised Messiah to the world. You must remember that Islam came some 1000 years after Jesus' exsistance. Who is the one who understand JEsus more, the one's who walked, ate, lived, and followed Him, or the ones who just read about Him? The challenge is not accepting Jesus as a prophet, for He was, but about the claims He made about Himself. Was He lying when He made claims about being the way of salvation, or was He just crazy for thinking it. Or, was and is He still the way to salvation? To accept Jesus, you must also accept the other sayings and applications He placed upon Himself. He and the Father are One, He is the gate to Heaven, He is the Christ, It is through His blood and body that He became the Passover Lamb and the Atonement for Sin (See Exodus and Leviticus for understanding), He is from Heaven and returned there, He is the Word of God that is the same as the Word in Genesis 1. So, then, what is He?
2004-03-24

FREDERICK DENTON FROM ORIGINALLY USA, WORKING IN R.S. KOREA said:
The article is excellent. Recently, I veiw the movie and I was struck with the bloody gore of Jesus torment. However, what stay with me after the movie was Jesus telling of the "Helper to come". Again, an excellent article.
2004-03-24

AALIYAH SHABAZZ FROM USA said:
HAS ANY KNOWLEDGEABLE MUSLIM APPROACHED MR MEL GIBSON, TO ESTABLISH A DIALOGUE? Please continue
2004-03-24

JAMILAH FRASER-RAHIM FROM USA said:
Excellent article
2004-03-23

JON MAX REGER FROM USA said:
Asalam Alaikum! I concur. As a child of 8 or 9 years old Christianity did not make much sense to me. Only after years of study did I eventually find, and then embrace Islam. Much for the reason that all the prophets are human beings and are equal to one another. It is through the logic of Islam that one can embrace this view. To believe in a "God of infanticide" is an anethma to me. I much more prefer a nuturing "God" and subsequent religion that implores man to think and reason and to ask questions than to blindly accept statements as a means of faith. It is unfortunate that this point of view is not represented in the media. I can only hope that with time that these views are expressed for all to see.
2004-03-23

ADAMU IBRAHIM MUHAMMAD FROM NIGERIA. said:
Christopher Ward; Let me begin by refering to yours in the middle of ur comment thus

"Everytime someone asks a question asking Muslims to prove their faith it seems they are very insulted."

What on earth give you the immpression that I'm offended in any way? On the contrary I was (still 'm) happy about your comment(22238). I was only responding to your questions whic I belief u posed to all.

You equally lamented that
" In the same way that you do not believe the reverend, why should others believe the imam."

But then the Imam did not (and will never) create any dogma, like worship Muhammad Cos' he is God's son. Or pray to Muhammad for your salvation Cos' he's God incarnate. Or Ask in the name of Muhammad for he dies for your sins. All these are the real insults to the intellect.

On the other hand the Imam will tell you worship only God your Lord Cos He's the creator of all. Ask for your salvation from God Cos' He oversees all His creations. Do not associate any partners to God in worshipping Him Cos' He God is a "jealous God" and He is strict in retribution.

So I think, Chris any right thinking human being , knowing what God is, and what God's creations are, would rather belief the Imam, in this sense rather than the Reverend, don't you think so?

Peace.
2004-03-23

RANIA AFIFI FROM EGYPT said:
I cannot thank you enough for this beautifully written and touching article... you have said everything that a Muslim that has watched this movie wants to say, and the versus quoted from the Qur'an were well-chosen. It is sad that the movie talked so little of Jesus' life (peace be upon him), and so much about his so-called "death". The article reminds the world that we too, as Muslims, hold great love and reverence to this special prophet.

Thank you
2004-03-23

JAMILA FAROLE FROM U.S.A said:
Alhumdulilah! Brother Ibrahim, this is a really excellent article because it's exactly what I would have written if I could write an article about the movie, "The Passion of the Christ". Indeed, I did go see the movie and I think you're right when you say that Mel Gibson only uses "art and culture" to convey only one part of Jesus's life. I also agree with the fact that when the big controversy about the movie was heating up between Christians and Jews before the movie even came out; Muslims were never asked for their side of the story. I believe this happened because "some people" were afraid that if the media showed the side of the Muslims on TV, many Americans may have converted to Islam. Nevertheless, I think you made it clear that JESUS IS NOT THE SON OF GOD BUT A PROPHET OF ISLAM.Overall, I think you summarized up the common feelings shared by Muslims over this movies in a very stunning piece of literature. So keep up the good work Brother and may Allah make you an even more prosperous writer.
Asalamu Alakum!
2004-03-23

YAHYA BERGUM FROM USA said:
Peace be unto thee, Zarqui. "(And remember) when the angels said: O Mary! Lo! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a word from him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, illustrious in the world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (unto Allah)" -- Qur'an 3:45 -- as translated by M.M. Pickthall. Granted, Qur'an 3:45 in the translation by Yusuf Ali reads, "Christ Jesus," (peace be upon him) but Qur'an 3:45 in the translations by Pickthall, M.H. Shakir and Saheeh International all read, "Messiah."

As for condemning the author's position on the Holy Spirit, are you not providing us with an example of "divisiveness" yourself? I myself have been tempted to roll my eyes at all of the footnotes accompanying passages similar to, "and He breathed into him something of His spirit," but for Allah's sake perhaps consider being a bit less confrontational about it. Some of the commentators (including some Qur'an believing Christians, alhamdulillah!) are peacefully discussing the article.

And peace!
2004-03-23

CHRISTOPHER WARD FROM USA said:
Adam Ibrahim Muhammad: I totally see your point of view. In the same way that you do not believe the reverend, why should others believe the imam. There are many interpretations as to what the son of man means and both sides can be "proven" and "disproven" intellectually. But as far as believing what Muhammad said there is really not a lot of evidence. All people had in his time was his word that an angel came to him and spoke, his undeniable genious intellegence, and his military victories. No one else saw this angel or witnessed him do supernatural things. In addition while there may be some prophesies of the Bible that could be related to Muhammad (of course there are those who would diagree) Jesus, whether he said he was the son of man or not meaning he was the son of god, he was certainly the fullfillment of many prophesies. It gets down to what you personally believe and what you think is true after looking at the evidence. Everytime someone asks a question asking Muslims to prove their faith it seems they are very insulted. Christians are quite use to this. I did not ask why you did not belive jesus was the son of god but as such you had to state you did not believe that to be true. It is a difficult concept much like the final prophet not being a Jew when all the others were. I know there were prophets sent down to each land (saith Muslims) does the Koran or Hadiths' mention them by name as they did the Biblical prophets? If not why do you think this is so? This is not an attempt to "disprove" your religion but a question for you to ponder beyond Allah did not (or did) reveal the names of the other prophets.
2004-03-22

DANIEL HARRISON FROM USA said:
Christ did not die for the mere purpose of dying, but in order to free others from death, which is a symbol of sin. Many peoples haved used sacrifices to impart their sins upon: the annimal is thought to endure the punishment merited by the sacrificer. But, this form of attonement is insufficient. In fact, even the sacrifice of one human for another is insufficient, since both merit punishment, for both have sinned. Only Allah has not sinned. And, in His great love and mercy, He chose to suffer in our place. He is the only perfect sacrifice, for He is perfect. All sin, all sin must be punished. Allah, the Holy One, never overlooks sin. May all who seek Him cry out for His forgiveness, which He freely gives.
2004-03-22

RABEYA FROM US said:
Alhumdulillah, good job brother! Clearing misconception and reassuring our love and respect for all prophets of Allah including Jesus (peace be upon him).
2004-03-22

CHRISTOPHER FROM USA said:
A very good article. I personally think that the truth about Jesus probably lies somewhere between what most Christians and most Muslims believe.

Jesus said himself that he was sent by Allah, and received all his power and authority from Allah. So I don't think we can say that Jesus is/was God.

On the other hand, both the Bible and the Quran make it pretty clear that he was not just a human like Noah, Abraham, Moses and Muhammad were.

That's why it's so hard for us to describe Jesus. If he's not God, and he's not human, what is he? I really think it's something beyond our understanding.

2004-03-22

ZARQUI FROM AUSTRALIA said:
The issues the author writes on behalf of ALL Muslims are flawed. If you were aware of what is written in Scriptural Text other than the Holy Quran, your interpretation of the Glorious and Noble Quran would not be so flawed.
Lord Jesus was nailed to a cross, his human life expired, He was raised up to Allah, and was sent back to continue His Message.
Jesus is also referred to as a Son of God, rather than an 'it' of God. The Quran says that those that say that God has begotten a son are talking about matters which they know not. Just as the Muslims who say Allah did not begat a son, they are talking about matters which they know not.
What ever you glean from the Holy Quran should be read in conjunction with The Urantia Book, or as the Holy Quran refers to it, the Book of Enlightenment. Al-i-Imran 184.
The efforts of Islamicity to reconcile the Muslim differences to commonly held views of other religions is almost non-existant. So long as Muslims hold to relatively recent interpretation of their forfathers which is out of step with Scripture, there will remain an impediment to conciliation between Muslims and Muslims, and Muslims and Christians.
There is only one Truth, just different angles from which it is viewed.
I propose that the claim of the author that he represents all Muslims is out of date. Perhaps there was a time that all Muslims rejected the Crucifixtion of Jesus. These days, there are Muslims who have adopted the position held by the Bible, the Holy Quran, the Book of Mormon, God Calling, and The Urantia Book.
I believe this article is a good example of the divisiveness of some Muslim interpretation against a common thought.
From what I have heard about "the Passion", I am unlikely to view it due to the inaccuracies that have been revealed.
The Urantia Book is the only STANDARD by which you can determine acurately the details of the life of Jesus of Nazareth.
2004-03-22

ADAM IBRAHIM MUHAMMAD FROM NIGERIA said:
Great Article indeed. To Christopher Ward, Let me try to answer your question(s);

You see the stand of a muslim and all right thinking persons of faith is that where Allah Has given a verdict, it is NOT for the human to give any opinion.

After saying that I go on to say, YES Jesus was born of a virgin, YES Jesus does not have any sins, YES Jesus was a spirit proceeding from Allah and let me add even that YES Jesus perform so many miracles(by the will of Allah).

But with all these God says, he(Jesus) was only a messenger sent to the lost house of Israel(in both the Bible and the Quran). Also Allah compares the creation of Jesus(without Father) as the same with the creation of Adam(without Father or Mother), in that He only says to them "BE " and they became(this is paraphrasing the statement. Jesus also througout the Bible kept telling the world that he was "the son of man"(a phrase meaning I'm a human being in the then Aramaic tradition). No WHERE in the Quran(which by the way is the criterion for judging the truth as concern previous revelations) has Allah says Jesus was anything other than one of the mightiest prophet and messenger of His. So why should a Bishop, a Reverend or group(s) of these or even the church, over a cup of coffee, wake up one day and tell me that Jesus was a God, or Son of God, etc. then you expect me to belief. No. The truth is that the word of God cannot be change by anybody.

Peace.
2004-03-22

AHMED ASGHER FROM BAHRAIN said:

"The horrors of the Passion presented by Mel Gibson are inflicted daily on the captive Palestinians. They are killed by the hundreds, tortured by the thousands and starved by the millions. People who support or ignore this persecution will never be able to wash their hands of their blood."

These are not my words but those of an Israeli and you can view the whole article here:
http://www.whtt.org/whtt.shtml?rpr/ShmrSB.htm

As Muslims we surely believe that Christ was not crucified but as the Quran states "it appeared to them". Yet this does not negate the fact that either Christ himself or someone else (a vision) was crucified. The point is that Christ himself did not go through the ordeal since Allah would never allow His apostles to be treated such like but to those who inflicted such terror, it would "appear" to them that they had actually crucified him. It is very much like the case of Abraham. In that he was burned but the fire turned "bardan was salaman" = the fire became cool and peaceful to Abraham. Again it does not negate that those who wanted to inflict such terror on Abraham indeed had evil intentions. So, the same goes for those who wanted to inflict the terror of crucifixion on Jesus even through Allah swt. saved him from such ordeal - contrast this with the Bible, when on the cross Jesus says "Eluhim, why have you foresaken me.". Such a statement does not tally with Christ's enormous faith in God. Here he decalres that his faith was based on doubt? Far from it.

The fact remains that those Jews who handed Christ to the Roamns have his blood on their hands but NO ONE should be allowed to hold any other Jew as responsible for Christ's ordeal. That would be ludicrous for the sins of the father must never visit the son and visa versa.

Still I wish that the Jews themselves would say so, instead ADL/AIPAC beating up on Mel Gibson. By doing so, they associate themselves with Christ's tormentors. May be there is something in that?
2004-03-22

ABDULRAHMAN ALONGAN MANGORSI FROM PHILIPPINES said:
The article is very informative. It specifies the truth about the life and true teachings of Prophet Jesus which many Christians need to know since many of then donot know the truth. If the modern bible should be read thoroughly, it never stated about Jesus telling his followers or Christian adherents that he is God, or son of God or worship me. Both the Quran and Bible agree on the teachings of Prophet Jesus.

The trinity is not the making of Prophet Jesus but the product of modern priests.

I would suggest to the author to explain this vividly to save many people from misbelief or false idoctrination. This is his duty to the Almighty Allah.
2004-03-22

MEBROCKY FROM USA said:
Wonderful article! Excellent comments. The central message of Islam, Christianity and Judaism is one of compassion, love and mercy. Jesus was the very embodiment of this message, however you choose to view him. We have been blessed with many wonderful prophets; Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. It is very sad that much of the world has strayed so far from the message God has sent us. Peace be unto him, blessings to you all.
2004-03-22

ASIF CHAUDHRY FROM CANADA said:
I think if Mel Gibson had a closer look at the Bible, he would see that there are accounts in there that prove of Jesus not getting crucified, and that he was NOT God. I think it was interesting that the author mentioned the earlier sects of Christianity that didn't believe Jesus was crucified and I would like to learn more about them. But I think he could have mentioned somewhere that even according to the bible, Jesus wasn't slain, and show some verses where God promised him he would be saved, etc..

Here are some excellent sites to check out:

http://www.aswatalislam.net/DisplayFilesP.aspx?TitleID=50016

http://www.ajnabiz.com/Ahmed_Deedat_Works/Crucifixion_or_Cruci-fiction/CRUCIFIXION_or_CRUCIFICTION.htm
2004-03-22

OM MOHAMED FROM USA said:
Assalama alaikum. I just finished seeing "The Passion". It was indeed a thought-provoking movie. This article is indeed in sync with how I felt. The scenes were violent, the actors who portayed both Issa (PBUH)(or the individual who represented Christ) and Mariam did indeed played those parts with conviction. All the while I was thinking alhamdililah, I am Muslim. But in the same light, I wondered what were the thoughts of those who surrounded me. (To my knowledge, I was the only Muslim in the theater--dressed Islamically, anyway.) I can see how the modern-day Jews may be concerned that anti-Semitism may arise. But my feeling is since this indeed occured, and the Jews at that time were indeed guilty of attempting to assasinate yet another prophet, the modern Jews should be alot more empathetic towards Muslims when we have to endure the stigma of a few terrorists who consider themselves Muslims. This movie had me thinking about how the other Messengers of Allah had to endure the ridicule, the abuse, and still manage to keep the faith. Subhanalah. Whatever your faith, it does make one wonder and appreciate the fact, that one indeed has a deen.
2004-03-22

MANDOU FROM EGYPT said:
I am definitely for the article. It presents non-Muslims with a matter-of-fact message about how Muslims view Jesus (Alayhi Assalam).

I also tend to agree with the comments of Mr. Jamil Brownson who was rather "Neutral". He presents a very interesting point that can be the nucleus of, I hope, a very enlightening discussion.

I want to thank Mr. Abusharif for mentioning the "Basilideans". I am sure a lot of Muslims don't know that many Christians believe neither in the crucification of Jesus nor his divinity.

Another important point this article made clear is Muslims' stand on this subject is independent from that of Christians and Jews and should remain so. We must not get sucked into the "anti-semitism" whirlpool.

Wassalam.
2004-03-21

JAMSHED.. FROM AUSTRALIA said:
Assalamu alaikum w.w.b..
This article really made me think and alhumdullillah it was something that touched my heart.
2004-03-21

SAMIRA KHAN FROM CANADA said:
Thank you for your wonderful article. I learned so much from your writing. I actually liked the film and understand where we as Muslims differ from the film. I too agree that it was a positive step for Mel Gibson to bring religion back on the front line. Make people want to learn, discuss and so on.

So thank you once again.

2004-03-21

ZULFIQAR MALIK FROM USA said:
Well done.
2004-03-21

ABDUR-RAHIM KASHIF FROM USA said:
Esa SWS, like Al-Quadia, is based on a erroneous, assumption that causes good people 2 think n directions that r harmful 2 r Deen , al-quadia n arabic has nothe'n 2 do wit terror, like wise, 2 belive that Allah SWT, come from where ever he is at, 2 clothe himself n human flesh , with all its misery is plain stupid. u c thats what happens when good people think 1+1= 3.... u feel me
2004-03-21

HAMDIYA FROM USA said:
It is a well writeen brief message that sends a lot of meaning about Islamic view of Jesus. Well done and keep it up.
Thank you.
2004-03-21

IFTAKA ALI SIAD FROM USA said:
Jesus is the Messiah. The Jews nor the Romans killed him. He died for your and my sins, praise to His grace.
'Allaha' was the Aramaic word for God. 'Ballah' was the Aramaic word for Baal. Do not use any semantic twist to make any point. Because the ancient temple at Meccah, was the house of Baal. This is an unfortunate fact.
2004-03-21

SR.D ALBIZU FROM USA said:
Alhamdulillah! I am a reverted from Christianity and in all my salahs I thank Allah(SWT) for taking the confusion about the Trinity and Jesus out of my heart. That and other discrepancies were keeping me ASTRAY.
2004-03-21

DEBORAH L. DORTHICK FROM USA said:
I would like to further comment that it is my understanding that in the translation of the original manuscripts of the testaments it is written that (not ver batim) not a bone in Ilesa's body would be broken. In the movie I don't think the violence was nearly as graphic as I had read it was. When I thought on this after viewing the film, I pondered that although Ilesa did take a brutal beating, except for the "spikes" being hammered into him all of his injuries were external. I have never read or known of Ilesa having any internal organ injuries. So, my thought is that even with the brutal beating and method of temporary death, Allah was merciful to HIS servant (that after praying to have the cup taken away from him if possible-yet not his will be done but Allah's), and that Ilesa was actually an Islamist. Even though that word was not yet in use. It does mean submission and submission to Allah's WILL. This is what Ilesa did. The translation of the manuscripts also reads that Ilesa says, there is no greater love than this, that a man should lay down his life for his friends. Doesn't this indicate that Ilesa did "die". For the purpose of being proof and evidence of the TRUTH (which was being kept from the people) of the resurrection and day of reckoning. Conclusion, I believe 100% that the Holy Scriptures and The Noble Qur'an are in perfect harmony with each other and that the differences or disputes among the different faiths can be related to what I believe is the possibility of men giving earthy definitions to words that should have spiritual definitions. Part of wisdom is knowing where to apply the 2 different definitions. And that it happens not just in the bible but also possibly in some places in the Qur'an. I mean not to offend any one any where. And I do admit I am not a scholar. Yet sometimes I think the TRUTH is revealed "out of the mouth of babes". I think in Arabic it is called Taufiq. My goal is to find and know just this, the TRUTH. Allah's TRUTH. TY.
2004-03-21

HABEEBA FROM USA said:
Alhamdullilah. This article was truly amazing. A couple of days ago my Christian friend asked me about my views on the Passion of Christ, and I told her the same thing that Ibrahim N. Abusharif has expressed in this article. However, Mr. Abusharif conveys the idea in a much effective way. I applaud the author's article. It explicitly states the thoughts that every Muslim should hold in his/her heart. Furthermore, it aims at bridging the gap between Muslims and Christians. I just pray that radical non-muslims understand this and stop viewing our religion as evil, and muslims extremists understand it and stop targeting non-muslims. After all, Islam is peace and tolerance. If we just respect each other's religion, the world will be a much better place to live in. Amen.
2004-03-21

TIM FROM USA said:
The article was a good one and I have no doubts that the author speaks for the general Muslim view of Jesus. However, Muslims and Christians will never share the same view of Jesus because of their differing views on the Fall of Adam, which Man in a fallen state. This is further complicated by the fact that Christianity is not monolithic in its beliefs. The belief that Jesus is God was adopted by the Council of Nicea in 325 AD. It was contoversial then and it still is today and not all Christians accept that Jesus is God. Muslims need to know this.
The fall of Adam was planned by God and we believe that this caused mankind to enter into a lowered state. In this lowered state we can not go to God directly and so we must go to God through a mediator and this is Jesus role (1 Timothy 2:5)This verse clearly states that Jesus was a man and it is only through Jesus role as God's High Priest that Man can approach God.
Jesus' death on the cross was witnessed by many and was recorded in both Jewish and Roman texts. Jesus' sacrifice was necessary to eventually bring Man out of his fallen state. He was so much more than a prophet.
2004-03-21

AMINA NGUYEN FROM UNITED STATES, HAWAII said:
I am a Proud Mulsimah who revert from being Catholic. I too was confused about Christ when I was a teenager, I had many questions that my mother could not answer so by the grace of Allah(swt)that I met my husband who is a true believer of Islam and a great human being. I have learned so much about Islam and felt that this is it for me by Allah(swt)'s Will. I was confused about how could a man, be God and son of be God, well by studying about Islam I have better understand of my doubts. And now it is clear as crystal to me. I prayed that Allah(swt) guides those that are looking for the Truth and also to guide those that misunderstand the Truth about Jesus. Allah(swt)knows best and only guidance comes from Him.
2004-03-21

DEBORAH L. DORTHICK FROM USA said:
For the most part I am for the position of the article. I do not agree with the belief that Ilesa was not crucified. The original manuscripts tell of this don't they? Crucified was the method. Explain, I agree with the Qur'an. Ilesa was not literally the son of Allah. I think the better translation when Ilesa says "my father" would be "my Creator". Men often give earthy definitions to words that should have spiritual definitions. Ilesa, was the, is the, TRUTH. WORD of Allah made flesh. As a man he was just that a man. Mortal. In his speech he was PERFECT. I say the man could not tell a lie. The way he was created and that he could not lie is what makes him a prophet and more than a prophet. But in the flesh he was mortal and even aged. Neither was he "shy" in telling the Sadducees, Pharisees and scribes just what they were in their "hearts". And just how they had corrupted the word of Allah and was teaching corruption. In exposing all this corruption (as I believe was his purpose from Allah)he made many enemys. Therefore the desire to have him murdered. I say that Ilesa was also a martyr. Also created for the purpose of being martyred and resurrected as a sign, and evidence that Allah raises the "dead". Ilesa also compared death to a sleep. For how can any one literally be "dead" when Allah is going to resurrect all by putting our souls back into our bodies? And judge each and every one of us in the day of reckoning? I do agree with the Islamic belief that Ilesa did not die for our sins. Allah has said that the shedding of blood cannot forgive any one their sins. If it were why would he provide a ram for Abraham (HIS servant)in Isaacs place? Ilesa's blood was shed for the purpose of martyrdom and for evidence and proof that the priests had corrupted and lied about Allah's word. There is a resurrection and a day of recompence. And the only forgiveness for sins is repentance. Ilesa's miracles was Allah's doing through Ilesa by Allah's permission. Space is limited, gtg
2004-03-21

ABUBAKAR YAHAYA FROM NIGERIA said:
Assalamu Alaikum,
Brothers in Islam

I was highly delighted when I see this article, May Almighty Allah bless its contributor and entire Muslim Ummah in every corner of the world.
In fact, this article is one of the best articles I've ever read that go straight to the point on the stand of Muslims and Islam on the exalted and highly honoured position of the noble Prophet and Messenger of Allah, Jesus (Isah, Alayhis Salam),with strong backings and evidences from the Holy Qur'an.
I feel all other faithfuls of other religions who feel Jesus is theirs only should investigate and know the stand of Muslims on Jesus as well.
I believe when they do so, they will realise that Muslims have the highest degree of respect to Jesus (pbuh) than followers of any other religion in the world, be it Christians, jewish and whatever.
Wassalamu Alaikum Warahmatullah.

Abubakar Yahaya,
Brunel University,
West London,
Uxbridge, Middlesex,
United Kingdom.
2004-03-21

ABDULRAHIM ABDULHAG FROM USA said:
Assalamu alaikum,
Dear muslims;The word God has never been mentioned in Alqura'an Almajeed nor Alahadeeth! ALLAH (swt)introduced HIMSELF with ninety nine glorious names and all of them are easy to pronounce and use. I believe my ALLAH Subhanahu wata'ala DOES NOT need a translation to HIS NAME. We do not translate our own names when we introduce ourselves . . . or do we? Wa ASSALAMu alaikum.
2004-03-21

EHSAN ABDUS-SHAFI FROM USA said:
Although I feel the film to be biased towards Mel Gibson I feel that this article helps me to better understand my feelings of anger and disgust around the film and it's portrayal and continued prejudice towards others. I feel that the film should have been more of an accurate accountance of TRUTH (based on all versions pertaining to Christ)be it in our Qu'ran the Torah or the Bible.
2004-03-21

SYED FROM U.A.E. said:
This is a good movie thru which Christians can find out the truth about God(Allah) and his love for mankind.The people who are trusted to guide every christian to the truth has misled them and the tragedy is that they do not bother to find out the truth.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO ME IF I DO NOT OBEY ALLAH IN THIS WORLD AND HEREAFTER.

Every one is perfectly aware that if i do not obey my boss i will be fired.
Soul searching and hearing voice of soul is makes it easy to know GOD(Allah).

Let's all try to live Heaven as we live together in this world. Which is the road to Heaven ?
Find Out
syed
2004-03-21

JAMIL BROWNSON FROM CANADA said:
Christopher Ward posts a problematic comment about
Christianity and belief. It is absurd to categorically state that all
"x, y, or z" people believe this or that.

As Muslims we believe that only Allah can know what is the
belief of any individual.

As rational people, we should know that we cannot understand
the psychology or inner consciousness or cognition of another
human beiing. We may have feelings about a person's intent or
another aspect of their character, but cannot ever be certain
about their interior being, or state of mind. The same is true for
Jesus, Mel Gibson, or Muhammed (PBUH), however much effort is
invested in attempts to do so.

But perhaps this site and its commentary intends to make
Muslims feel good about a rather conservative perspective
toward Islam, while expressing that message to all, especially to
non-Muslims.

What we need is critical dialogue and discussion among Muslims
and non-Muslims alike, trying to cut through the externalities
that have become hard barriers. We need to seek the inner
truths and universal values that lead to inner peace and outer
harmony among all creation. But we also need to do so through
critical discourse that deconstructs those barrier-erecting
ideological aspects of "religion" that seek to divide.



2004-03-21

JAMIL BROWNSON FROM CANADA said:
If we can deconstruct the historical context and character
attributed to Jesus of Nazareth, whether or not we believe him to
have been a Prophet (messenger) or something else, why not
deconstruct the historical context of all prophets, Muhammed
included. As Muslims we should be open to understanding the
factual as opposed to the mythical historical context of
Muhammed and all other Prophets, Jesus included. While we
respect Muhammed as the "seal" of a Judaeo-Semitic tradition of
Prophethood, he made no claim to anything more than that. If
we recognize the Qur'an as a set of divinely originated messages
recited to Muhammed, then there should be many perspectives
toward interpretation of those messages. The so-called "gates of
ijtihad", or consensual interpretation, can thus never be closed.
Each new generation seeking meaning in life and existence (the
Kitab al-Akhdar, or Greater Book of Creation" can use the
Qur'an as a guide toward "reading" this greater book--Allah's
creation itself. We do not need to be hypocritical and claim Jesus
fulfills our prophecies more than any Judeo-Christian ones while
protecting both Muhammed and Qur'an, and the body of varied
Ulemaic tradition from similar scrutiny and interpretation.
2004-03-21

JIBRIL FROM SOMALIA said:
Asaalamu Alikum my dear respected Bros&Sist.

I enjoyed reading this article because it reminds you that Islam is the true religion like Allah (SW)say it in the Noble Qura'n...i mean how can say that "we are born sinners as a baby, and that someone like Jesus (SAW) died for mankind" can you imagine..it's a complete nonsence and idiotic...everyone is acountable for what they do...no one should hold or carry the burden for anyone...it says in the books...Qura'an, bible, Torah, and the Gosbels...and that's what every Nabi or Prophet conveyed...submitt everything i.e yourself to Allah The Creator, The Merciful, The most Beneficient...it's so simple do good and you will be rewarded do bad and you will be punished that's it that one needs to comprehend in this life...The problem with Christianity is not the religion but the western who change it and made to his own flavor...thus chiristinity doesn't agree w/t the western philisophy...every phrophet preached the same...that was "La Illah Ilal'laah" There is one God, but Allah...they preached the truth...how can you reject the truth...reject Isa (SAW)...they(Christians and Jews) have all the infromation they need in front them because Allah (SW) send it to them,but still rejected it...how could you be so hesitant of the truth...it doesn't make any sense

Wasaalamu Alikum Wa Rahmatulahi Wa Baraakatu
2004-03-21

MARK MASSO FROM USA said:
I would have to disagree that The Passion does not enjoy consensus in Christian quarters as the overwhelming majority of Christians believe what the Holy Scriptures say about the last 12 hours of the life of Jesus which was basically accurately portrayed in The Passion. This article tries to portray that it is only a small heretical sect of Christians who believe Jesus died on the cross which is absolutely false. Even if a person does not believe Jesus died on the cross, I wonder why not give Jesus a chance. What if the only way to heaven is through faith in the death, burial and ressurrection of Christ for the forgiveness of our sins as the Bible teaches? Isn't the Bible as a Holy Book at least worth reading with a sincere heart to try to understand?
2004-03-21

SALEEM FROM CANADA said:
A wonderful piece. Look forward to reading more article on the subject.
2004-03-21

HUDD D'ALHAMD FROM CANADA said:
I'll answer your dilemma, Cristopher Ward, your comment, "One thing that intrigues me is that Islam teaches (as I have heard) that Jesus was both born of a virgin and sinless. Is there a general belief by Muslims about wheter other Prophets had these attributes or were the special to Jesus? If so, is there a general belief as to why?" General belief you said? Whoever denies one 'fat-ha' of the Quran is out of Islaam, the person is not a Muslim, but the opposite, Kaffer. Allow me to give you the revealing verses of the Quran, surah,#3, "verse:45- Behold! the angels said: 'O Mary! God gives you glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Jesus the Messiah, son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the hereafter, and of (the company of) those nearest to God; 46- 'He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous.' 47-She(Mary) said:'Omy Lord! How shall I have a son when no man touched me?' They(the angels) said: 'Even so: God creates what He wills: When He has decreed a plan, He just says to it, 'Be', and it is! 48- 'And God will teach him the Book(Old Testament?) and the Wisdom(the prophets?), the Tora(the Law) and the Gospel,". This is Quran, amigo, no general belief, but rather a very specific one. Why? Because no any other prophet or messenger of God had the title of Messiah but Jesus and he was born like the Quran and the Gospel describes it. The Quran is not a different Book of a different God! The Bible and the Quran have the same sorce, God. Only, given the history of how the bible was lost then re-written from the memory of the 12, then how it was tailored by the septuagint to fit the believes of the church and all that, blah, blah, blah, as you put it. Quran was garded in its purity unchanged, untailored, the way it was conveyed to the messenger, Muhammad,pbuh, up to date! Muslims are not allowed to disrespect the Bible. We believe that it was badly tampered with, but still has truth in it.
2004-03-21

A MUSLIMAH FROM CANADA said:
In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, Most Merciful

MashaaAllah, a good article for da3wah and for sharing with non-Muslims to give them a summary of Islam's view on Jesus - peace be upon him.

As for Christopher's question...

1) Jesus - peace be upon him - was the only (known) prophet to be born of a virgin.

2) It is a general belief in Islam that ALL prophets were sinless (they do not disobey their Creator, and they do what they are told).

I hope that answers your question.
2004-03-21

AKBAR KHAN FROM CANADA said:
Surah Al-Imran (Continued)
Verse
64. Say: "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah. that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah.s Will).
65. Ye People of the Book! Why dispute ye about Abraham, when the Law and the Gospel Were not revealed Till after him? Have ye no understanding?
66. Ah! Ye are those who fell to disputing (Even) in matters of which ye had some knowledge! but why dispute ye in matters of which ye have no knowledge? It is Allah Who knows, and ye who know not!
67. Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah.s (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah.
68. Without doubt, among men, the nearest of kin to Abraham, are those who follow him, as are also this Messenger and those who believe: And Allah is the Protector of those who have faith.
69. It is the wish of a section of the People of the Book to lead you astray. But they shall lead astray (Not you), but themselves, and they do not perceive!
70. Ye People of the Book! Why reject ye the Signs of Allah, of which ye are (Yourselves) witnesses?
71. Ye People of the Book! Why do ye clothe Truth with falsehood, and conceal the Truth, while ye have knowledge?
72. A section of the People of the Book say: "Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers, but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) Turn back;
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AKBAR KHAN FROM CANADA said:
Glorious Qur'an - Surah Al-Imran
Verse
42. Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah hath chosen thee and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all nations.
43. "O Mary! worship Thy Lord devoutly: Prostrate thyself, and bow down (in prayer) with those who bow down."
44. This is part of the tidings of the things unseen, which We reveal unto thee (O Messenger.) by inspiration: Thou wast not with them when they cast lots with arrows, as to which of them should be charged with the care of Mary: Nor wast thou with them when they disputed (the point).
45. Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.
46. "He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous."
47. She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" He said: "Even so: Allah createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, 'Be,' and it is!
48. "And Allah will teach him the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel,
49. "And (appoint him) an apostle to the Children of Israel, (with this message): "'I have come to you, with a Sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by Allah.s leave: And I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I quicken the dead, by Allah.s leave; and I declare to you what ye eat, and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe;
50. "'(I have come to you), to attest the Law which was before me. And to make lawful to you part of what was (Before) forbidden to you; I have come to you with a Sign from your Lord. So fear Allah, and obey me.
51. "'It is Allah Who is my Lord and your Lord; then worship Him. This is a Way that is straight.'"
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AQEELAH FROM USA said:
is it not true that a father's abuse(neglect...) of one child brings a curse on subsequent children?
2004-03-20

WASI AHMED FROM CANADA said:
Excellent article, must read. In so little words the author brings out so much sense. Let the Jews of today and the past be absolved from the crime they did not commit; Jesus was not crucified. Let the Christians understand that Jesus was just as human as everyone of us, he was not God, and moreover no one has to die for others or carry anybody else's burden. Quran, the Revelation from God Almightly, makes it very clear. Let the muslims tell the world to come to this understanding.
2004-03-20

ANEESA FROM SOUTH AFRICA said:
Salaams everyone. Great article!! Well, reading this piece reminded me of a debate I had with a Christian friend this week.

Her comments went along the line of: "The trinity is the foundation of Christianity. Any other Christian teaching is wrong- so Pentacostals, Jehovahs, etc all have it wrong". Furthermore she said: " You're not supposed to understand the trinity. It's a mystery. You're not supposed to have understand. You're just supposed to believe and have faith".

Listening to that bit of news really sobered me up and made me realize how lucky I am to be a follower of this fantastic faith-Islam. Islam teaches us that knowledge and faith go hand in hand unlike Christianity which uses faith to feed faith.

Furthermore, I am so proud to know that Nabi Isa (alahis-salaam) [OR JESUS] is one of the most beloved prophets in our faith. And dear Christopher Ward, the virgin birth of Jesus as far as I know is an absolute phenomenon. All other prohets and messengers were born conceived and born naturally.
2004-03-20

KASHIF SHAIKH FROM CANADA said:
Assalamua'alaikum,
Zajak-Allah, parts of this timely knowledge I will be using to better present 'Introduction to Islam' in current/interesting contexts to a non-Muslim audiance that I am scheduled to do so in several days.
Wassalam.
2004-03-20

MOHAMMAD SYED FROM USA said:
Muslims know the truth about Jesus. Unfortunately, the preachers of other faiths do not want to know the truth so they do not study the Quran. They deny the teachings of Islam and enjoy in remaing ignorant and thus contribute to misleading their own people. You have stated the truth about Jesus (according to the Quran). Those who do not accept are determined not to know the truth.
2004-03-20

CHRISTOPHER WARD FROM USA said:
Good Article. Jews, Christians, and Muslims will have to agree to disagree but certainly should maintain a friendly dialogue so as to understand each other. Original Sin in Christianity (non-catholic) is little understood. Protestants do not believe we inherit the sins of our ancestors nor do we believe the Bible supports this. The basic theme is essentially the belief that as humans our sin and free will are intimately intertwined such that sin stems from our choice to do what God has not commanded. Sin is what separates us from God and makes us imperfect beings that cannot be in the presence of God (a perfect being) unless these sins are forgiven. The "Original Sin" as we see it was the disobedience to God by both Adam and Eve which separated them from God. As they had free will they chose sin just as we have free will and chose sin. God proclaims that sin must be payed for by death.

One thing that intrigues me is that Islam teaches (as I have heard) that Jesus was both born of a virgin and sinless. Is there a general belief by Muslims about wheter other Prophets had these attributes or were the special to Jesus? If so, is there a general belief as to why?
2004-03-20

SYED DANIAL SYED TAHA FROM SINGAPORE said:
Excellent article! I suggest readers should e-mail their Christian friends this article as it, in my opinon, a good summary of the Muslim view of Jesus (on whom be peace). You might want to remind your Christian friends that, essentially, though we DO NOT worship Jesus or Mary (Isa or Mariam a.s.), WE WORSHIP THE GOD THAT JESUS AND MARY WORSHIP.
2004-03-20

SALIM CHISHTI FROM USA said:
bismillahir rahmanir raheem. I thank you for this article and Jazak allah khayr for the reminders in it of our faith and of Allah's (SWT) message to us in the Quran and in all the revealed scriptures of the Almighty. As I have written before in the previous comments to the first article about this movie, this article expands on that and goes further in reminding us that we, as Muslims, have the true version to tell the world. I believe it is important for Muslims to make that the central point in this discussion. We must not get involved in the current superficial discussion of whether the movie is or is not anti-semitic. That is not the point for us and either way we speak, we, as Muslims, are bound to be caught up in the Christian vs Jew point of view which is not to our advantage, and not in keeping with the honoring of these blessed prophets of Allah (SWT). The author is right in stating that we can offer this other point of view in which there is no room for such discussion. If we keep to our deen then Allah (SWT) is pleased with us. "Izzaja anasr allahi wal fatth" wa allahu alim.

Salim
2004-03-20

SUHAYB FROM CANADA said:
the article and its teaching is great. However i think this movie has wasted enough "ink"...Fiction is for entertaining purposes. mel gibson is an actor, a person who pretends to be someone else for a living, this time he says he was inspired by God...i wonder who he's pretending to be...
2004-03-20

UMM MUHAMMAD FROM UNITED STATES OF AMERICA said:
Finally a good article on Islamicity!!
I think that the reason why the modern western world is trying to revive Christianiy is because so many are leaving the Church. Many are becoming devout Muslims. Some abandon religion altogether. I believe that many Christians are really sincere and truly believe in their religion. They are scared to learn about Islam because they are told so many bad things about it and they feel like they are blaspeming, by even taking a curious look at it.

But I also believe that the members of the Church that are of higher authority know Islam is the truth. Also that the American government sees Islam as a threat. What would happen if 200 million Americans willingly became Muslim?

What would happen if 200 million Americans WILLINGLY BECAME MUSLIM?

What would happen to the entertainment industry, alcolhol, interest, pork production?

America is number one because they are number one in sin.
There are powerful people out there who know what would happen to America. Islam is a threat. By practising true Islam you are no ones slave.
If you practise anything else you will have many masters.
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