Minority Report Reloaded
Judge Sitgraves acknowledged that the Islamic Association of Palestine was not on the terrorist organization list, but she said that it could be in the future. |
LOS ANGELES - Civil liberties lawyers today will argue the curious case of an Orange County man who has been held by immigration officials since July for overstaying his student visa two decades ago.
Abdel-Jabbar Hamdan, the father of six U.S.-born children, who holds a valid work permit and has a pending green-card application, faces deportation to Jordan.
In denying Hamdan's bond request last week, a San Pedro immigration judge cited U.S. officials' claim that Texas-based Holy Land Foundation, a now-defunct Islamic charity where Hamdan once worked as a fund-raiser, was linked to the terrorist group Hamas. In re Hamdan, A93240763 (U.S. Immigration Ct., San Pedro, Nov. 22, 2004).
Judge D.D. Sitgraves labeled Hamdan, a Muslim born in a Palestinian refugee camp, a national security risk.
Hamdan, 44, has denied any knowledge of a link between the charity and the group. In his motion for bail, he noted that he began working for Holy Land in 1990, seven years before the State Department designated Hamas a terrorist organization.
"This is a man who has been in the United States for 24 years," his daughter, Yaman Hamdan, 20, a prelaw student at Chapman College, said. "He's never even had a parking violation."
"They take him away from his family and kids," she said. "Where's the justice in that?"
His lawyer, Marc Van Der Hout of San Francisco, has filed a motion asking Sitgraves to recuse herself from the case on the grounds that she is prejudiced after denying bond based on her finding that Hamdan had ties to at least two terrorist groups.
One of the groups hasn't even been designated as a terrorist organization, but, Sitgraves noted in her ruling, it could be in the future.
Van Der Hout also is filing for permanent residency status for Hamdan and, barring that, asylum. The hearing, at immigration court at Terminal Island prison, is expected to last all week, Van Der Hout said.
Ahilan T. Arulanantham and Ranjana Natarajan of the American Civil Liberties Union of Southern California are named as co-counsel.
FBI and immigration agents arrested Hamdan at his Buena Park home July 27, the same day that seven members of the charity were indicted in Texas on federal charges of aiding Hamas.
Hamdan was not named in the indictment.
Hamdan's wife, Entesar Hamdan, said she believes the government is trying to pressure her husband to testify against the defendants, even though, she added, he told investigators several years ago everything he knew.
"It doesn't take a smart person to know what's going on," she said.
Van Der Hout said the bottom line is that the government is holding Hamad because it thinks it can get away with it.
"And it can," he said, because an immigration hearing is an administrative procedure and not subject to the due-process rules of federal court.
"It's a situation where there is no risk at all, and they can act with impunity ... because it's an administrative proceeding," Van Der Hout said. "It's not until you get into federal court that you get any justice."
As an example, he pointed out, five of the seven Holy Land officers indicted in Texas have been released on their own recognizance; two others were out of the country when the indictments came down and remain fugitives. Meanwhile, Hamdan remains in custody.
He is among an untold number of immigrants labeled national security threats because they allegedly belong to one of 27 organizations designated as terrorist groups by the State Department, Van Der Hout said.
Most if not all of these immigrants, including Hamdan, have never been charged with terrorism.
Lawyers for Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement Bureau, Richard Vinet, Edward Lepkowitz, Robert Bryant and Megan Turkat-Schirn, would not comment.
Virginia Kice, a spokeswoman for the Immigration and Customs Enforcement bureau, said the agency detains people on immigration violations for a number of reasons, from posing a flight risk to more serious concerns.
"This is a case where the circumstances involved merit his being held without bond," Kice said, referring to Hamdan's purported links to Hamas. She declined to elaborate, saying the case will be litigated fully in court.
Entesar and Abdel-Jabbar Hamdan came to the United States in 1983 from Jordan, according to court documents. Abdel-Jabbar Hamdan earned an engineering degree from USC and worked as a civil environmental engineer before becoming a full-time fund-raiser for the Holy Land Foundation.
When authorities froze the foundation's funds after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, Abdel-Jabbar Hamdan became a paid fund-raiser for another Islamic charity, Life for Relief and Development, Entesar Hamdan said.
During their time here, both Abdel-Jabbar and Entesar Hamdan have applied for amnesty based on their length of residence, Entesar Hamdan said.
After Sept. 11, she said, authorities questioned her husband briefly, along with other Middle-Eastern men. When a special registration program for Middle Eastern and other men was announced, she said, her husband went to the immigration office, and authorities told him his immigration papers were all in order.
A year later, when federal authorities were investigating the foundation's ties to Hamas, she said, her husband paid his own way to Dallas for a six-hour interview with the FBI.
The next time she heard from the government, she said, was when FBI and immigration agents came knocking at her door at 4:45 a.m. the morning of her husband's arrest.
They asked to see Abdel-Jabbar Hamdan's immigration papers and then searched the house, including the bedroom where her two sons, ages 7 and 10, were sleeping, she said. Her other four children were visiting relatives in Jordan.
As they took her husband away in handcuffs, she said, one of the agents told her, "Have a nice day."
"Can you imagine?" she said.
The incident so traumatized her two children, she said, that they have insisted on sleeping in her bedroom and are afraid to go upstairs alone or take a shower without leaving the bathroom door open so they can keep her in sight.
She said she immediately phoned her daughter, Yaman, in Jordan and ordered her and the other children to cut short their visit and return home.
The family has visited Hamdan at the Terminal Island detention center every visiting day since his arrest, she said, adding that it's the longest they have been separated since their marriage.
"It's a case that has really sent shock waves through the [Orange County Islamic] community," said Long Beach lawyer Ban Al-Wardi, who has represented the family over the years.
"It has kept people from speaking out," added Al-Wardi, who also is president of the local Arab-American Anti-Discrimination Committee.
In denying bond, Sitgraves acknowledged that, while the Department of Homeland Security argued that Hamdan was a national security risk, it has not charged him with being a risk or a terrorist.
Nonetheless, she wrote, the District Court and U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia have found that the Holy Land Foundation is a terrorist organization based on incontrovertible evidence tying the foundation to Hamas. Those links have been widely reported in newspaper articles, she noted.
The judge indicated that Hamdan was disingenuous when he claimed to be unaware of the foundation's ties to Hamas or terrorist activities.
She pointed out that he had admitted confronting the foundation officers about the allegations, and they assured him that they were completely unfounded.
"Respondent attempts to claim blind awareness and cultural skepticism when these articles were published in the newspapers and on websites," she wrote. "Yet, he did admit that he made phone calls about the allegations and charges against [the foundation]."
Sitgraves also noted that Hamdan attended a conference of the Islamic Association of Palestine, in which killing Jews was discussed, a claim Hamdan denied.
The judge found that Hamdan attended conferences in which songs were played that described terrorist activity. Hamdan contended that the songs were simply folk songs.
Sitgraves acknowledged that the Islamic Association of Palestine was not on the terrorist organization list, but she said that it could be in the future.
"He clearly participated and aided in the fundraising for two terrorist organizations in the United States that promoted terrorism abroad in Israel or by whatever means necessary, according to songs transcribed," Sitgraves wrote.
The Department of Homeland Security has established Hamdan's "membership with two organizations in the United States with a propensity for violence and affiliation or association with terrorist organizations," she wrote.
This membership, Sitgraves added, began before the foundation was designated as a terrorist organization and before the Islamic Association of Palestine's "designation in the future."
"This court, therefore, finds that respondent was a member or affiliated with one, if not two, national terrorist organizations," she wrote. "He is a danger to the community and a risk to national security."
Van Der Hout responded with the motion asking the judge to recuse herself from the case.
"The court's crystal ball approach to the facts and the law has no place in the administrative or judicial legal system in our country and demonstrates the clear bias this court has in this case that necessarily prevents her from making a fair determination - based on actual evidence presented - in this case," Van Der Hout wrote.
Source: Daily Journal
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At any rate, please re-read my previous post and think about what I've said. I will reiterate in part here: what good do your words do? Do you honestly think you will give us pause for reflection? People need hope, do you think that your words will give it to them? Think about it. And this time, follow my advice and think before you respond (or post at all).
I have some authors I'd also like to recommend (in addition to the Quran, of course): Rumi, Hafiz, Al-Hallaj. I think these might be of some use to you.
Humbly yours,
Khaysuddin
Yvonne, you talk like you are the only one in the world who mourns the deaths of our Muslim brethren.
I do not go and participate in a fight without Ijazat (the right to do so). I do not fight alongside people who fight like cowards, and at the same time, I do not take orders from people who think that physical fighting is the one and only alternative solution, as you have articulated in your comment. Otherwise we should be compliant shouldn't we, by sitting back and "Shut Up" right? You make NO SENSE.
Allah has decreed that Imam Mahdi is the one we should pledge allegiance to with our lives, as prophet Muhammad (saaw) described, that even if we haev to crawl over ice to get to him, you MUST. I would die to defend him, because he is a chosen friend of Allah. To him I will pledge my allegiance (give Bay'ah to him). But he has not ye arrived has he?
It is not up to narrow minded simpletons to tell people to go fight without knowing what or how you're going to fight. Just like the 40 percent of 140,000 U.S. troops who are reservists and national guards who are ill-equipped and ill-trained to fight in Iraq, asking what they're doing there.
This mess will only enlarge, the more people behave apprehensively.
We do no have a Khalifah, we do no have the right to interfere in places where we would render ourselves USELESS. What, you think going into Iraq and fighting against U.S. troops is the solution?
I ask you again...what good are you doing for Muslims when you get angry at non-Muslims? All you are doing is motivating them more to HATE US! Is this your solution? For the sake of all of us I hope not.
Can you not understand that, what is it that is stopping you from seeing this?
Anyways I am tired of talking in circles with you, I really tried desperately to share some knowledge with you, but you threw it back in my face. Just wanted to thank you for that as well.
WSAK.
Akbar
Masha'Allah Yvonne.
You didn't comprehend a word I have said in my gazillion posts, loaded with sahih hadith's, and ayat's of the Qur'an. You could have at least told me what you think about them? Don't be afraid to ask, I don't bite.
You know you are giving me so much attention, I almost feel famous now...
All you can come up with is "shut up?" How grand of you. I don't even know you but somehow I have lost respect for you...you did give me a nice laugh though, that's for sure. I fear Allah alone, and I don't respond well to antagonizing, hysterial comments. I can almost see the veins popping out of your head when your filled with rage, desperately saying, SHUTUP SHUTUP!! Take it easy, breathe a little.
Surprise surprise, you COMPLETELY CHANGED what I said once again. Please if you cannot learn something new to you, or find things difficult to understand, why do you continually retort to online cat fighting? Really what is the matter with you?
You know there's a very nice nationwide Muslim Television station that has started in the U.S., it's called BRIDGES TV. You can learn a lot from even just the TITLE! It's all about building bridges!
I give your comment five stars for extremely (close to extremist) angry. Word of advice, since everything else has failed - learn to control it, in the name of all that is wholesome, PLEASEE!
Finally, I can post as many responses as I like, thank you very much to Al-Shuyukh at Islamicity. I reserve the right to say what I like, just as much as you do. But I don't think I can stoop to your level. NOO WAY HOSAY! Then I'd really be in deep trouble.
So Peace to you - AND WORD OF ADVICE - GO READ MY POSTS PROPERLY NEXT TIME.
Wa'assalaatu' Wassalaamu' Alaiyk.
me, but I'm afraid I and others do not see
much peace, love, understanding and
tolerance these days. I've seen so many
hateful comments about Jews, Israelis and
Americans on this website that make any
tolerant person cringe - whatever their religion.
Dosen't it occur to you that a huge majority of
Israelis and Americans want the same thing
that the Palestinians want? A peaceful, loving
life with tolerance towards all. No one ever
mentions that on this website. I'm sorry, I
really am, but sometimes all I see on this site
are complaints and crticisms as if all the
problems the Islamic people face are
attributed to the Israelis and the Americans.
Truth is: People in Islamic countries are NOT,
I repeat NOT free to choose in many areas of
their life. And, I still say that women who
speaks so kindly of the Taliban and how
wonderful they were is a fabricated story.
There would have been no reason to not
maim and torture her as they did to Afghani
women who dared to appear in public with
their ankle showing.
Hey Irrem, peace!
what makes you think you are an american and he is not? forget about America now? put yourself in this kind of people problems? somebody call himself jewish came from east Europe to claim your land is his land! maybe Israel who kicked you out and you end it in America. are you gonna be happy with this situation? you don't have the right to be in your land neither in any land !!!? I bet you never thought about it like that, otherwise you won't write any racist words here... by the way I'm not palestinian! neither arab! I just had an objective view.
Desparate actions are committed by desparate people; by people who feel that they have no hope in this world. Do you think your words will somehow give it to them?
Before you post a reply, think about what I've said. Whatever religion you are, I'm sure that it tells you we should love our fellow man, and that we should help our fellow man. Your words (or at least the way they are expressed) incite anger, and anger leads to hate and down that road lies evil. And that's no help at all.
Forget about your education for one moment, and meditate before you respond, Irrem. May Allah bless you and give you peace.
However, I must protest your statements about my country. The USA isn't perfect, God knows, but it is a good country inhabited by many good people. I should know, my Grandmother (and a more pious and devout woman you have never met).
American policy isn't perfect, and yes it is very out of line with its actions to the Islamic world (an understatement if there ever was one, I grant you); but this stems from ignorance, a lack of understanding because there is a lack of education and explanation. It is up to us, the Umma, to fully explain matters to the Americans. If they really knew what was going on, they would demand action (case in point: the criminals of Abu Gharib have been court-martialed and prosecuted). So many of them don't really have any idea about what Islam is, what is going on in Palestine, etc that is understandable if they accept things for what they are (note: I said understandable, not acceptable, there is a difference).
The average American is really just a normal person who wants to provide for their family, they have no evil designs on the rest of the world. They think our government is acting to preserve our security (although the government's actions and methods are now coming under scrutiny because they have made things worse, not better), because that's what they've been told.
We could point the finger all we want, and we can spout fiery rhetoric until Judgement Day, but when that day comes I am sure that Allah will ask us: "What did you really do to make matters better?"
One of the pillars of our deen is charity, can charity to another not also mean behaiving charitably to another in addition to giving alms to the poor? Surely that would be better than lopping off heads on the internet. But I don't know, I am very new to Islam, so please forgive and excuse me if I offend.
Allah
Secondly, going back to the artificial state of Israel, remember that oil rich, fat kings/tyrants in the Middle East like U.S. financed King Abdullah in Saudi Arabia, U.S. financed Hosni Mubarak, U.S. financed King Abdullah in Jordan are just a few examples of fellow Arab "mujahids" who haven't done diddly squat for Palestinians. Forget what the U.S. is doing for Israel, think about what Palestine's own Arab brothers ARE NOT doing for them. Egypt has the 4th largest army in the world OK...Saudi is the most oil rich nation on Earth, Jordan houses 1.5+ MILLION Palestinian refugees, and during Zia al-Haqq's bloody military coup in Pakistan, he sent tens of thousands of Pakistani soldiers to Jordan, and killed thousands of Palestinians.
So maybe we should really rethink our attitudes towards American people - they are saying things in the interest of their nation, whether those views are for or against imposing US style democracy in Northern Africa or the Arab states of the Middle East...but what exactly is it that we are doing? We are supposed to sit back in our ignorance and once again and take the , "Bull, come hit me" approach? We all know that the U.S. Congress and Administrations have been Israel's right hand man ever since it's inception - but the real question is, what are you going to do about it, sit there and kick and scream about how unfair that is, or, kick our disgusting so called leaders out ourselves?
It's high time for Arabs to create their own Islamic United States of Arabia before Rome does.
Like I explained to you in my previous comment in response to your diatribe, I pointed out to that the creation of Salafism and Wahhabism have tarnished hte true message that is Islam. It is this creation of an almost cult like group that is brainwashing people and has been for this last century. No such movement such as those mentioned above existed anywhere in the Muslim world before the 20th century. It was powerless and isolated becuase the majority of Muslims in the world did not concur with the beliefs of Wahhabism and Salafism.
What you fail to realize is that you cannot secularize faith. That in itself is an oxymoron. You say you are highly educated, but you must realize that religious institutions of all Abrahamic faiths, cannot fit the mold of secularism entirely, and that is because there are elements within secular society which disagree with Abrahamic faiths. For example, why should Christian, Jewish, and Muslim kids in school be forced to learn that Gay marriage is acceptable, when in fact it is against the basic tenets of our faiths? Who has hte right to impose secularity upon religious institutions?
What I do agree with you is that we of course mus be part of a global community, in all sciences, business dealings...yes I agree with you, I am no against that, and neither is Islam. That is where you lack in understanding Islam. Our faith is all about LEARNING.
I will explain that to you in the alternative comment section below:
Yes, I know you're angry with me for my
comments. But violence begats violence and
it will not end until EVERYONE takes
responsibility and stops making excuses.
Please don't tell me to read more or that I'm
ignorant -- I have advanced degrees in
religious studies and am quite familiar with
"behaviors in the name of the saviour" Read
the article in 12/10/04 NY Times about an
Islamic conference. It's widely agreed that
change must begin with Islam itself -- it is not
enough to complain about humiliation,
oppressiveness, etc... That won't change
people's mind or change the world. Islam
needs to move toward secular education for
males and females both and a willingness to
become a part of the global community in the
matters of science, medicine, economics,
etc...Religious beliefs can easily be
maintained within one's home and one's
lifestyle. You would be surprised as to how
many people would be supportive of Islam if
they did not fear it as some kind of Satanic
cult. I'm sorry but it's true. It's up to the Islamic
people to change the impression -- if you
expect the world to change it's mind just
because you cry "unfair" you're in for a shock.
Respectfully,
IRREM
"Verily, Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet. O believers! Invoke blessings upon him (Muhammad), and utmost greetings."
- Qur'an(33:56)
There is an excellent analogy given when people claim that Muslims who practice Zuhd/Sufism are copying Christianity and Judaism. Well to that, I say this:
The Jews say la ilaha illallah but they never like to say Musa rasulullah. They are stingy in love for their Prophet. Christians similarly refuse to say `Isa rasulullah although for other reasons. Both groups refuse to say Muhammadun rasulullah and that is where we differ. You cannot be Muslim without the latter, even if you are a believer in God. This makes the second part of the shahada a requirement for entering Islam, and thus belief in the Prophet is a means for salvation from error and punishment. Allah never accepts anyone to come to Him saying "I love You directly": instead they must obey the order "If you indeed love Allah, then follow me, and Allah will love you" (3:31). Therefore love of Allah can only proceed from love of the Prophet and its sign is to praise him an invoke blessings upon him often, as he requested in the hadith akthiru al-salat `alayya ("Send much blessings upon me")
Tabarani said in his Mu`jam al-awsat:
Anas said: The Prophet said: "The earth will never lack forty men similar to the Friend of the Merciful [Prophet Ibrahim], and through them people [Muslims] receive rain and are given victory (over their enemies). None of them dies except Allah substitutes another in his place." Qatada said: "We do not doubt that al-Hasan [al-Basri] is one of them."
Ibn Hibban narrates it in al-Tarikh through Abu Hurayra as: "The earth will never lack forty men similar to Ibrahim the Friend of the Merciful, and through you (Muslims) are helped, receive your sustenance, and receive rain."
Imam Ahmad also narrated in the Musnad (5:322):
The Prophet said: "The Substitutes in this Community are thirty like Ibrahim the Friend of the Merciful. Every time one of them dies, Allah substitutes another one in his place."
Hakim Tirmidhi cites it in Nawadir al-usul and Ahmad's student al-Khallal in his Karamat al-awliya'. Haythami said its men are those of the sahih except `Abd al-Wahid, who was declared trustworthy by al-`Ijli and Abu Zar`a [as well as Yahya ibn Ma`in].
Abu Dawud through three different good chains in his Sunan (English #4273), Imam Ahmad in his Musnad (6:316), Ibn Abi Shayba in his Musannaf, Abu Ya`la, al-Hakim, and Bayhaqi narrated:
Umm Salama the wife of the Prophet said: "Disagreement will occur at the death of a Caliph and a man of the people of Madina will come forth flying to Mecca. Some of the people of Mecca will come to him, bring him out against his will and swear allegiance to him between the Corner and the Maqam. An expeditionary force will then be sent against him from Syria but will be swallowed up in the desert between Mecca and Madina, and when the people see that, (continued)
But back to the negative publicity: you are right, there is much bad publicity out there, but the Truth will make itself known. We, the Umma, must work together to address the ills in the world. I am sorry if you have had bad experiences with degenrate practices that pose as Sufism or Islam; but lets not throw out the baby with the bathwater. I've studied Sufism, and I must tell you, I find it to be a very beautiful thing. To want to polish the mirror of your heart so that it reflects only Allah, to experience fanah, annihilation into the ulitmate reality that is Allah, what could be greater than that? Some of the best Muslims I've known (like Brother Akbar) have been Sufis.
As I said, I think that the best way to overcome the injustice that besets us is to speak out, and more than that, we must educate people (speaking out implies political action, education implies reaching out to the public); and we must do this together.
Qur'an al-kareem states:
"Whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His; who is he that can intercede with Him but by his permission" (2:255); "Surely your Lord is Allah who created the heavens and the earth in six periods, and He is firmly established on the throne, regulating the affair; there is no intercessor except after His Permission."
Notice the words "but" and "except" in the above mentioned verses. These verses do not condemn the presence of an intercessor; they just put a condition for the fact of intercession. So far we are establishing the fact that intercession is not something condemned in Islam, rather it is something accepted highly by Islam. There are many more verses in the same context that explain the legitimacy of tawassul.
"On that day shall no intercession avail except of him whom the Beneficent God allows and whose word He is pleased with" (20:109)
"And intercession will not avail aught with Him save of him whom He permits" (34:23)
"And how many an angel is there in the heavens whose intercession does not avail at all except after Allah has given permission to whom He pleases and chooses" (53:26)
"...And they do not intercede except for him whom He approves..." (21:28)
"And those whom they call upon besides Him have no authority for intercession, but he who bears witness of the truth and they know (him)" (43:86)
"We did not send a messenger but that he should be obeyed by Allah's permission; and had they, when they had done injustice to themselves, come to you and asked Allah's forgiveness; and the messenger (also) had asked pardon for them, surely, they would have found Allah oft-returning, merciful" (4:64)".
Now remember Sister Yvonne, you previously stated to me that the Qur'an makes no mention of Sufism/Zuhd....would you kindly rethink that statement for me?
Allah bless.
The Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said,
"O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Shaam (Syria, Jordan, Palestine, and Lebanon). O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Yemen." The people said, "O Messenger of Allaah, and our Najd." I think the third time the Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said, "There (in Najd) will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations, and from their appears the Horn of Satan."
Reported in al-Bukhaaree [Book of Trials, Chpt. 'The afflictions will come from the East' 9/166 no. 214 Eng. Trans]
This is a hadith reported in Sahih Bukhaari! The Najd is the Eastern province of Arabia, East of the Hijaaz, and from nowhere else but there, is where Wahhabism began. These are it's origins. Now I ask you one LAST TIME, what is Wahhabism since it's founder was born in the Najd province, his name is Muhammad bin Abd' Al-Wahhab al Najdi. No other "school of thought" except for that one came out of that region, and the Prophet Muhammad (saaw) never in his life blessed that area. It is devoid of his blessing, and so now Yvonne...do you believe the hadith of the Prophet (saaw), or reject it?
Real Eyes Realize Real Lies.
Wassalaamu'Alaiykum
I appreciate your humbleness in correcting yourself. I am thankful that you do not question other people's faith.
In regards to you ensemble describing the so called worship of saints - There are four major tariqats in the world, I will list them for you and you can do some studying about it and then tell me if Muslims who are Sufi's worship graves and saints. To me that is the regular diatribe I hear from rejectors of Tasawwuf/Zuhd.
Shaykh Nazim al-Haqqani, the spiritual leader of The Naqshbandi Tariqat
Shaykh Abd' Al Qadir Jilaani (may Allah bestow on him his mercy) - The leader of the Qadiriyya Tariqat
Moinuddin Chishti (ra) - Spiritual leader of hte Chishtiyya Tariqat.
Then there's the Shadhilli Tariqat, the Suhurwardi Tariqat - Remember that Syria, Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon, Egypt, they all recognize these Sufi orders. Go to Turkey, hey even the our Shi'a brothers follow a spiritual Sufi Order.
Let me remind you, that you are in itself insulting the Prophet (saaw) when you say you are outraged that people are supposedly worshipping him, astagfirAllah. If only you knew, that the Prophet (saaw), will intercede on the behalf of the Muslims on the day of Judgement when we all stand before Allah, and beg Allah to forgive the Muslims who made Durood to the Prophet and worked righteous deeds. Allah will then see Muhammad (saaw) in prostration before Allah on that day, and say to him, 'Oh Muhammad, raise your head, whatever you ask of me, I will grant it to you.' Muhammad (saaw) will then intercede on the behalf of people and everyone he intercedes for, Allah will tell say, because you ask this of me, I will grant it.
Now remember that Allah is al-Khaliq, we all know all is our creator, we are not worshipping human beings. This is knowledge which you cannot deny. You must read and learn about Sufism before making blanket statements
This is Islam...Islam is more than this world. The sooner you come to realize that, the better off you will be, Insha'Allah ta'Ala. Allah Azza wa jaal knows what is in all of our hearts better than we do ourselves. So think twice the next time you decide to condemn people like br. Peter who is entering into the fold of Islam. Allah and his Rasool have guided him towards the right path.....Allah hu Akbar.
Hadith Qudsi as interpreted by the main scholar Wahhabism depends upon, ibn Taymiyyah writes in his Majmu'a Fatawi:
"whoever comes against one of My saints (wali-Allah) is challenging Me for fighting"
He later interprets this hadith as saying that Allah is expressing that "I will seek revenge against anyone who comes against My saints like an aggressive lion."
Go and read what ibn Taymiyyah, the grand master Shaykh who Muhamamd bin Abd' Al Wahhab used as his MAIN REFERENCE...if you read in Majmu'a Fatawi of ibn Taymiyyah, in Volume 11, this man, has written 704 pages on the subject of Tasawwuf (SUFISM), where he not only recognizes the Awliya-Allah (Friends of Allah), but he continues to say that the are "the martyrs of Allah on Earth."
SO I ASK YOU YVONNE MALIK - What Islam are you purporting to follow? Since you be so firm in knowing that I do not know Islam, let me ask you the same question? I challenge your claims. I am prepared to refute you. I do not question your faith, but since you claim others do not have Imaan and you do, I am curious as to what you think you believe? Do you even believe in Durood???
Who have you been given Ijazat from to know what you know? Who is your Alim, your sh?
Have you visited Syria or Jordan, have you talked to any Mureeds of Shadhilliyya tariqat? Why don't you do this...since you are familiar with Egypt so much...how about you go to Al-Azhar University, the home of Sunni Islam in the World, the OLDEST University in the World, and see what they will tell you and what they will think of you if you tell them that Sufism belongs in childrens story books...
You're not a zombie, you have a soul, don't forget t
Yes Yvonne Malik, I will tell you a few things about me. I already do pray 5 times a day, I fast during Ramadan, I give my zakaat al-mal every year, I have grown up in Canada and I have visited other places in the world as well.
You should read your commment and your approach once more, you sit there telling other people that they do not know Islam. Who are you to say that Peter knows nothing of Islam? I never said he knows nothing of Islam. So how did you become grand judge and jury of things? You should read up on some history of the world before you start saying that the West has invented Wahhabism. What a blatantly ignorant comment for someone to make about Sufism, it's laughable. You don't even know what your Aqeedah encompasses. Go and read Ayat al-Kursi in Sura Baqarah, and learn about the origins of Waseelah, and Zuhd, and read the hadith's about the blind man and the man in need reported by Tirmidhi with sahih transmission and authenticated by grand masters in hadith.
If only you even knew what a Tariqah was. It is not some story which you purport it to be as. I have been Muslim all my life. You go and take a look all across Egypt, where your husband is from, and you will find the graves of Awliya-Allah all across the country. Go to Ethiopia, Sudan, Morocco, Algera, Syria, Yemen, Jordan, PALESTINE!! If you really think Sufism is in story books, may Allah guide you out of denial. Really, do you want to tell me that Wahhabism is hte correct interpretation of Islam? For over a thousand years, Muslims have expounded the critical thought of the metaphysical world through the practice of Zuhd, something which the holy prophet (saaw), and his companions, and the tabi'een also did. Who are you to insult our great history the way you do? You talk about America making Wahhabism a big issue. No, it has been an issue with me and my family and my relatives and friends for decades...CONTINUED...
Irem, really, just what are you talking about? The Umma condemns terror, that should be obvious, but you can't expect apologies to be made every day for the acts of people that we've never met or known. Islam is a wonderful, erudite religion.
And that brings me to the editors: Thank you so much for this website. It has had a profound influence on my life. I'm about to take the shahada (thanks also very much to Brother Akbar), you can see my transformation taking place on my posts right here at Islamicity, it was through the love, patience, knwoledge and dialogue of those that I've exchanged words here with that brought me in out of the rain, so to speak. I can't thank you enough. May Allah bless you, may Allah bless all of you.
Secondly in addition to the first point I just made above, you do not know and are obviously ignorant to the onslaught of extremist Salafism and extremist Wahhabism that is plaguing the Muslim Ummah today. It if drowning our communities into an abyss of ignorance, making us forget to respect and love Allah's habib, Muhammad Mustafa (saaw), and bringing in many innovations into the faith. You need to recognize that militancy is being fueled by this doctrine sweeping through primarily in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and it has most recently been growing in Indonesia. Does that mean that all Muslims in the world are to be grouped with militancy? You know generalizations such as yours are unfounded and unnecessary, they only add to the problem - first you must educate yourself about the situation, identify the root of the problem, before saying, Muslims are this and that, and support terrorism. You don't know the first thing about Islam, how will you know a Muslim then?
my parents grew up in Pakistan when Wahhabism was beginning to be propagated, by oil-rich Saudi Arabia. Before then, Pakistan's were all Sufi's. I have hundreds of photo's of my own family members from 1940 and before and around that time, and everyone one of them had a Shaykh, followed Tariqat, etc. etc., and not only that, take a look at pictures of Allama Muhammad Iqbal, a Chishti Sufi himself, every picture he has with people from India/Pakistan, all those Muslims he is with, they're all Sufis. There was no such thing as militant Islam until Wahhabism started propagating to the world that it was the only correct version of Islam with it's petro dollars.
Kate, I can understand your feelings. But this isn't the time for cynicism, it's time to speak out against injustice. If we're quiet, things will only get worse and more out of control than they already are.
connected with Hammas or with terrorist
activities. But as usual, according to the
Muslim people, the burden of proof is on
American Gov't and not the individual. Let's
see a show of U.S. Muslims who condemn
the terrorism in the world today that is
perpetrated almost entirely by Islamic
believers. I don't see it enough. Everyone
wants U.S. to bend over backwards so that no
one's rights are violated and yet everyday in
Iran, Sudan, Pakistan another woman is
abused merely because she is a woman and
the men can get away with it. Then, y'all come
back and tell me how someone's whose Visa
ran out years ago AND who has a possible
link with a major terrorist organization is
having his rights violated. When the brutal
kidnappings and beheadings carried out in
the name of Allah stop, then come and
complain about how bad the U.S. is. The
shame that one must feel these days for
practicing Islam no doubt makes one feel
defensive, but instead of complaining, let's
see some articles on the site about how
Mulims are reaching out to Christians and
Jews in the U.S. and proving that they are not
all seething, desperate terrorists.
All Muslims are not terrorists. But, it's also
true that all (Basque separatists aside)
terrorism attacks in the past few years were
carried out by Muslim extremists.
It's just astonishing how this website can twist
these headlines to suit their purposes.
Islamicity must be part of Fox!