Rift between ME & US growing
The economic rift that opened between the Middle East and the United States after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks has widened into a chasm. While the United States was once the first stop for goods and services, Middle Easterners are turning to what many see as more Arab-friendly environments in Europe and Asia.
Attention in recent months has focused on Arab investment, after security concerns derailed the acquisition of U.S. port operations by an Arab company, Dubai Ports World. But a decline in Middle Eastern spending has also hit service sectors including tourism, education and health care, triggering business-strategy shifts in such places as Cleveland and Rochester, Minn.
A hallmark of past oil booms was that money America spent on oil and gas got cycled back into the U.S. economy as investment and spending on U.S. goods and services.
Middle Eastern investors and consumers aren't completely ignoring the United States this time: They are major buyers of U.S. government bonds and have purchased U.S. hotels, such as New York's Essex House, and real estate in the South.
But America's allure appears to be waning, and travel to the United States from the Mideast has dropped. U.S. visits by Saudi Arabians, for example, fell to 18,573 in 2004, the last year for which statistics are available, from 72,891 in 1999, U.S. Commerce Department figures show. That represents an especially pronounced drop in tourist dollars because Saudi visitors spend three times more per person than any other group of U.S. tourists: $9,368 per trip, according to the Commerce Department.
Visa hassles have hurt export businesses, too, Arabs and Americans say, by placing a wall between U.S. companies and prospective clients who may turn to countries where travel is easier.
Arab tourists, deterred in part by U.S. visa hassles, are flocking to other burgeoning destinations close to home, such as Dubai in the United Arab Emirates, which offers resort hotels, theme parks and shopping malls patterned on U.S.-style attractions.
Jay Rasulo, chairman of Walt Disney Parks and Resorts, has been outspoken about how the visa process deters tourists. Rasulo told a recent travel-industry gathering that the U.S. share of international travel has dropped by "about $20 billion a year" since 2000, to its all-time low.
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security said it does its best to process visas quickly. "We definitely want to make it easier for those who are trusted to enter the U.S. to come in the time they want," said department spokeswoman Joanna Gonzalez. "But if decreasing wait time means softening security, then [the wait time] is not our problem," she said.
In the health-care industry, the number of Arab patients at high-end U.S. medical centers such as the Cleveland Clinic and the Mayo Clinic fell immediately after Sept. 11, by 20 percent to 50 percent, according to industry officials.
The fallout hit more than the clinics. High-profile Arab patients often came to the United States for lengthy treatments accompanied by large families and staffs.
When former UAE president Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan al-Nahyan traveled to Cleveland in 2000 for a kidney transplant, he and his entourage of hundreds stayed for four months. All needed to be fed, transported and housed.
The Mayo Clinic in Rochester, where King Hussein of Jordan received treatment in the late 1990s, has worked hard to draw patients, flying doctors to the Mideast after Sept. 11. Recently it opened a cardiovascular clinic in Dubai, which coordinates travel to the United States for further treatment, if necessary.
As for education, U.S. colleges and universities, once highly desirable destinations for wealthy Arabs, have seen a steep drop in Middle Eastern students, losing as much as $43 million a year.
The steepest decline comes consistently from Saudi Arabia, which sent 14 percent fewer students to the United States last year, according to the Institute of International Education. Enrollment by students from Muslim nations in general has fallen steeply, evidence that Middle Easterners aren't alone in finding America a more forbidding destination since Sept. 11.
Robert M. Gates, a former director of the CIA who is president of Texas A&M University, has been a forceful voice for improving the visa process. Gates's worry extends beyond monetary losses.
"In the last half-century, allowing students from other countries to study here has been the most positive thing America has done to win friends from around the world," he said.
But the U.S. consulate in Jiddah has been closed since November due to security concerns; another consulate in Dammam, Saudi Arabia, hasn't been open since 1999. This has meant applicants have to travel long distances to Riyadh, where the workload has kept applicants waiting up to several months for appointments.
Even among students who go to the United States, the experience is often mixed these days. Saeed Abdullah, a PhD student from the United Arab Emirates who is studying at Texas A&M, said that before Sept. 11, his friends used to prolong their studies -- taking seven years to complete four-year degrees. "America was about the social life as well," he said. Now they often try to squeeze the four years into three. "Now we come for a mission -- to work as hard as we can to get our degrees as fast as we can and then leave."
Students point to new options. In Qatar, for example, the state-supported Qatar Foundation has provided funds to bring U.S. universities -- including Texas A&M, Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service and Cornell University's medical school -- to its capital, Doha. And Saudi Arabia's minister of higher education recently unveiled a "look East" strategy for education. An increasing number of students, he said, will be sent to China, India, Malaysia, Singapore and South Korea.
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Don't tell me what my comments are,OK? I tolerate white people as they tolerate me and my Muslim brethren. When they attack me or any of my brethren I kick,unless the attack is well founded and legitimate. Just listen to yourself:"And your comments to Kumar are not against him but Indians in general (Hudd; 'I would say, go back to India and bomb your own people and leave Canada alone')." So according to you it means that Kumar should go to India and bomb everybody, Hindus,Jains,Sikhs,Muslims,Christians,Buddhists, Jews,etc. So, I don't care about Muslims in the least? No,Mr,what I meant was exactly what I said,"his people". People like him, in that state of moral and ethical corruption, but like the Editors warned us, let's stick to the topic,OK?
One more clarification. Read my comment again and see what I said about shariah and tell me did I single out any country of having it? Sharia Allah is an ideological concept from which governments in the past and present inspired themselves more or less acurately. Shariah Allah exists only in the Quran.It needs yet to be properly extracted.Your claim that the laws(called cosmetically sharia)in the ME are designed and purposely targeting the enslavement of women is hilarious.The reason for they appearing like that to the frivolous West is way different than enslavement of women. I'm afraid I could post comments the length of the Encyclopaedia Britanica and you still would be mentally challenged on the subject. Sorry,I can't help! Peace out.
I attack your belies, while you have to attack me personally is funny because you have no other defense. Your comments about white people, and Anglo-Saxons or as you like to call them WASPs have been extremely derogatory. And your comments to Kumar are not against him but Indians in general (Hudd; 'I would say, go back to India and bomb your own people and leave Canada alone').
Your statement; 'Shariah is God's Constitution and therefore not subject to scrutiny or judgement by His creation.' Is the best joke I've heard in a long time. First of all Shariah has been implemented in many places in the Muslim world, and no two are the same. So which version is right? Because all the others must be wrong! Secondly we all know that Shariah doesn't in anyway protect the rights of people. It is system of laws that subjugate women to a role inferior to men.
If you think Shariah law is perfect you should go to a country that has it, because I think Shariah is nothing more then man made laws that have came out of the Arabian desert, 1400 years ago and should stay there. Actually the world would be better if it disappeared from the face of the earth.
Sorry but I have to add another coment to the following comment by Hudd; 'According to Human Rights every individual regardless of his/her ethnicity/religion/political belief/etc has the fundamental right to live in any place and country as his right as a human being born on planet earth'.
So if I listen to you (HUDD) I should be able to practice the religion I want, even convert from Islam to another religion, or become atheist, open a church in Saudi Arabia, and even dress the way I want! Gee you are funny. Just don't take yourself to seriously ok.
Let me point 3 things to you and let me stress on the importance that you should try to excerpt as much cerebral activity as biologically you are intitled to.
1) Comparing Human Rights Charter of the USA Constitution or any Constitution to Sharia Allah is imbecilic. First, The HR and the Constitution are designed to uphold the liberties of the decadent, imoral and ethically challenged individual in a Western decaying society. Shariah is God's Constitution and therefore not subject to scrutiny or judgement by His creation. That happens only in Judaism when man questions God. The world is over 6 billion now? Only a fraction of those questions God's laws because they are the descendants of Gomorrah and Sodomah. God exterminated those two habitations because they were inhabitted by inferior human beings. Every human not subjected to the laws of God is an inferior being. A person can be free only on the condition that he lives with himself in total seclusion, say an uninhabitted island. Otherwise he/she has to consider his/her partner or neighbour and thus his liberty is restricted by the demands of the other person. In other words the Western laws support Western governments(not people), there is no justice system in the West only Legal System. Now, whatever puppet "Muslim" countries claim to be Shariah is in fact Roman and British law with religious acuity imparting from Islamic practices or malpractices of the past.Shariah Allah is for mankind and addressed to mankind. Not simply to the followers of Muhammad,pbuh. What the Egyptians said is irrelevant,since they are neither Islamic nor righteous.I could call Dick Cheney an ardent Christian and he could present himself as such,still that wouldn't mean that he was.
And Mr. Thomas should take a hike who is a typical whiteman who should be jail for committing crimes all over the world and still committing crimes. D. Thomas a typical slave of the zionist. ..
To begin with, I agree with you:
"It really does not matter if the Middle Eastern Arabs decide not to come to USA for education, tourism Medical treatment and investment."
Although it is not the point of the article, I will also agree with you that the Chinese and Indians in the US (and elsewhere) have made great strides in education an learning.
But to imply that Muslims are backward because of their religion is rather myopic, don't you think. When Islam was at its height, Muslims did practice some rather nifty science!
"Muslims are more concerned with religion"
What is wrong with the practice of religion? Yes I agree science and maths are important, but I would say, so is religion and morality. Actually, here at Yale, some of the brightest students are the most religious. Some of them are Hindus, some Muslims, some Jews, some Christians.
Mr Kumar, a few words of advice. Nothing in this world is so black and white as it seems. As you grow as a human being, try to consider the points and views of the "other." A feeling of hubris and superiority is a very dangerous concept - nations have been destroyed because of it.
About the French girl who shaved her head. You know it takes a lot of courage to stand up for what you believe in. It is so easy to blend in. Dr. Nurid Peled, an Israeli doctor whose son was killed by a suicide bomber gave a speech about the Israeli oppression on palestenian women. Now that is courage - to stand up for human dignity. Without empathy and respect, even with all the math and science, human beings will still be no better than animals.
Good day to you sir.
did cut back on US services and products.
US has damaged it economic and all because of Israeli. US was looking to pin the blame of falling economic and better realtionship with Israeli.
Here is an extract from Article 24 and 25.
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The Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam
Adopted and Issued at the Nineteenth Islamic Conference of Foreign Ministers in Cairo
on 5 August 1990.
Article 24
All the rights and freedoms stipulated in this Declaration are subject to the Islamic Shari'ah.
Article 25
The Islamic Shari'ah is the only source of reference for the explanation or clarification to any of the articles of this Declaration.
Cairo, 14 Muharram 1411H
5 August 1990
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Hudd to tell Kumar to bomb people in his own country is incitement to violence.
Telling Kumar to leave the West is highly hyprocrital for a person such as yourself, where there are many people who would probably suggest the same to you. From your comments we can see that you don't only hate White people but also Indians. Thats starting to add up to be alot of people.
By the way the main writer of the UN declaration of Human rights was Canadian.
These people write or do some things to irritate us,distract us so that we loose our self control & cannot express the facts or our views.That is what going on today.We have to remain focussed and give our message that our Religion & Prophets are for peace.
There are many things go on with other people / religions but they do not come in news.Why? The media is a big thing that can change the minds of the people. Unless you do not have your own media that is controlled by you, forget about it.
Just ignore them as we know when we go closer to dirty things/smokers/drunkards we get that smell in our clothes or Although we hate but we do not throw stone on wet mud /shit /garbage? even though that is dirty stuff. we avoid the routes ,if there is satan / bad things happen there.
Please,I am not going address anybody if he or she has a comment about my comment.GOD bless the world & bring peace to everyone.( It is the same one GOD who was worshipped by all prophets ADAM to MUHAMMAD - peace be upon them).
Any one would like to volunteer to "fly" plane thru Kafir's comment?
I do have one good news for you, ignorence is curable! stupidity isn't!
I am going to throw up now!
It hurts when I see what's going around the world specially the topic we are talking about. People out of ignorance think Islam and Muslims are barbaric. but its not true, max number of Muslims are peace loving and respect other human and their religion too.
Every community have black sheep but its not right to label whole community as bad and create problems for that particular community, its really unfortunate that people like Mr. Kumar thinks that USA or EU is not for Muslims, one should look at the things in broader aspects not with narrow mindedness. Max number of Muslims condemn any such acts which kills innocent people and trust me brother, Quran does not teach to kill innocent people its just few ignorant people who missquote it and use it in wrong way.
Lets all work together to build bridge of peace love and care between all religions, cultures and states lets help each other to develop tolerance. U may find it hard to believe, trust me Saudi Arabia is the best example where people from all over the world of all religion and caste work together and enjoy the social life of Saudi Arabia. Islam always encourage their followers to work in the field of Science, Tech, & Medicine. Many famous scientist in past were Muslims, In the dark ages, it was the Muslims who kept the spirit of science alive. Mr. Kumar and all my other religion brothers and sisters, please read Quran with English meaning and read the life of Prophet Muhammad; all your misconceptions will be cleared. Discrimination on the basis of caste and place is not allowed in Islam, God created different continents and people with different colour and lang to identify each other not to show supremacy and do oppression out of pure Ignorance. Take
In additoin historically India is a place where many arab scholars and even Sahaba (ridhwanullahi taa'la alaihim ajmaeen) have settled down and in previous 2 centuries this connection seems to have been lost. It would be gr8 if arabs come here and maybe good for Islam here as well.
Singapore is proud to be the first country destination for the official visit of the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Prince Sultan Abdul Aziz Al-Saud. Singapore is his first oversea destination since assuming the royal title last year.
Mr. M. Kumar does not realize that, just goes to show the ignorance of the Hindu's. Further, the girl in France really does not care how she looks, Mr. M. Kumar should realize and learn from that one girl what priorities in life are. She has hers straight, Allah and then education, and if education was not important to her, just her looks (like it seems it is to Mr. Kumar) then she would have given up school and obtained an education at home. We can all learn from her, about faith giving you strength.
When the cost of obtaining an education gets more expensive and the Indians are unable to afford it, then Mr. M. Kumar will learn how important the Arabs are to the world, or maybe we should start a religious (since according to M. Kumar that is all we muslims can think about) campaign with OPEC to sell oil to countries that are not Islamic friendly at a higher price, India would be included especially after Gujrat.
Peace out!
No? Didnt think so.
You state that "less muslims are coming to US">
It may be stated in another way -- US Government policies discourage muslims to come to US and in many cases, outrightly prohibit muslims to come to US.
Regarding ME investment in US, I doubt there was any real investment in the first, even before 9/11. Investment in Stock Market is really not investment at all, unless they bought the original issue; otherwise, they merely exchanged their money with somebody else's money.
In the case of Dubai Ports, there was not supposed to be any investment; only merely exchange of assets -- DP World buying assets owned by a UK company; hence no new investment. Unfortunately, the boys at Wall Street refuse to distinguish between real investment and mere exchange of assets. Only thing US would have go was management of ports by DP World -- I doubt they were any better managers than the ones we have in US -- after all they were going to live by the rules established by US.
Wall Street Journal is quite misleading.
to come to USA for education, tourism (or is it terrorism),
Medical treatment and investment. The US scientific, economic
and technological progress does not depend on Middle East.
I am sure some will be miffed by my sentiments, but facts are
facts. We have more committed Chinese and Indian students
who come to US for graduate education, and actually contribute
to the scientific progress. Muslims on the other hand, are more
concerned with religion, and I do not see any progress in the
thinking. Case in point is this bald girl in France- such accolades
from all Muslims from every country in the world because she
decides to go bald and ugly. Rather than concentrating on how
to evolve socially, spiritually as well as scientifically, the only
thing that matters to most readers of this forum is following the
religious dictates. If Middle-Eastern/ and other Muslims do not
want to come to USA- that is good news. No one in USA has
forgotten the 15 Saudi Arabian and another 4 Middle-eastern
murderers responsible for the mass killings and terror of 9/11.
Just stay in your own countries (Middle East and Islamic
republics) and practice your religion in peace. Leave Europe and
he Americas in peace. Then there will be peace on this planet at
last.
Peace out!