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Did Islam just copy from Judaism & Christianity?
According to the Judeo-Christian perspective, Islam did not exist until the ministry and preaching of Muhammad in the seventh century CE. Originally portrayed as the anti-Christ by many Christians, the image of Muhammad later began to be portrayed somewhat more favorably among certain elements of the Christian clergy and scholars. However, the Judeo-Christian perspective still perceives that Islam originated with Muhammad, and that Muhammad created Islam by borrowing heavily from both rabbinical Judaism and from Christianity. Concerning the alleged borrowing from Christianity, it is traditionally held that Muhammad most frequently took from the teachings of the Eastern churches and from a variety of apocryphal Christian writings. Thus, from the Judeo-Christian perspective, Islam originated in the seventh century CE as an amalgamation of Judaism and Christianity.
To summarize, the Judeo-Christian perspective posits the following step-wise evolution of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Primitive or proto-Judaism can be traced to the primitive covenant between Allah and Noah. However, Judaism really has its origin with the covenant between Allah and Abraham, a covenant, which was exclusively inherited by Isaac, then by Jacob, and then by the Israelites. The covenant was then reformulated with Moses, and Judaism as a full-blown religion began. Central to the maintenance of Judaism as a distinct religious practice was the temple cult, with its focus on the act of sacrifice at the Solomonic Temple in Jerusalem. Thereafter, various Israelites strayed from observance of the covenant, resulting in Allah sending prophets, who reaffirmed the Mosaic covenant, but neither added to nor modified it. This state of affairs continued until the new covenant of Christ, from which Christianity emerged. Almost 600 years later, Muhammad, borrowing heavily from both rabbinical Judaism and from Christianity, created the religion of Islam.
The Islamic Perspective
Like the Judeo-Christian tradition, Islam traces the origin of mankind to Adam. However, unlike any conceptualization within the Judeo-Christian tradition, Islam posits its beginning with Adam. Islam means "submission", i.e. submission to Allah, and a Muslim is "one who submits" to Allah. Thus, the religion of Adam was Islam, as was the religion of Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, etc.
The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah - that which We have sent by inspiration to thee - and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: namely, that ye should remain steadfast in religion, and make no divisions therein: to those who worship other things than Allah, hard is the (way) to which thou callest them. Allah chooses to Himself those whom He pleases, and guides to Himself those who turn (to Him).1
This is not, however, to say that the Islamic religion of Adam was the same in every detail as that of Noah, or of Abraham, or of Moses, or of Jesus, or of Muhammad. In fact, it was not. However, to understand that difference, one has to understand the Islamic concepts of covenant and of progressive revelation.
Covenant and Revelation
As noted above, the Judeo-Christian tradition perceives the concept of covenant to represent a fundamental re-ordering of the cosmos in which the relationship between and Allah is completely redefined, and in which an entirely new concept of religion is introduced. Covenants are thus seen as being few and far between, represented only by: 1) the primitive or proto-covenant with Noah; 2) the defining covenant with Abraham, which was exclusively inherited by Isaac, by Jacob, and then by the Israelites; 3) the revision and elaboration of the Abrahamic covenant with Moses, with inheritance of the covenant limited to Israelites and Jews; and 4) the new covenant with Jesus, which for the first time was open to participation by non-Jews.
In marked contrast, Islam affirms a multiplicity of covenants between Allah and mankind. Every prophet of Allah, most of whose names are not even known to contemporary man2, has had his own covenant, which was inherited by that prophet's people3. The following quotations from the Qur'an serve to illustrate this latter point.
Remember We made the the House a place of assembly for men and a place of safety; and take ye the station of Abraham as a place of prayer; and We covenanted with Abraham and Isma'il, that they should sanctify My House for those who compass it round, or use it as a retreat, or bow, or prostrate themselves (therein in prayer).4
Behold! Allah took the covenant of the prophets, saying: "I give you a book and wisdom; then comes to you a messenger, confirming what is with you; do you believe in him and render him help." Allah said: "Do ye agree, and take this my covenant as binding on you?" They said: "We agree." He said: "Then bear witness, and I am with you among the witnesses."5
And remember We took from the prophets their covenant: as (We did) from thee: From Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary: We took from them a solemn covenant.6
Further, a prophet of Allah was sent to every people, not just to the Israelites. There are many passages in the Qur'an referring to the fact that a prophet was sent to every people.7 The following represents a brief sample of those passages.
Before thee We sent (messengers) to many nations, and We afflicted the nations with suffering and adversity, that they might learn humility.8
To every people (was sent) a messenger: when their messenger comes (before them), the matter will be judged between them with justice, and they will not be wronged.9
For We assuredly sent amongst every people a messenger, (with the command), "Serve Allah, and eschew evil": of the people were some whom Allah guided, and some on whom error became inevitably (established). So travel through the earth, and see what was the end of those who denied (truth).10
Verily We have sent thee in truth, as a bearer of glad tidings, and as a warner: and there never was a people, without a warner having lived among them (in the past).11
Thus, between the time of Adam and Muhammad, covenants were plentiful, and were non-exclusive. Every person, regardless of ethnic, national, or racial descent, had the potential opportunity to inherit a covenant with Allah, and to enter into a proper, worshipful relationship with Allah.
This concept of a multiplicity of covenants is linked with the Islamic concept of progressive revelation.12 Since each prophet received his own covenant with Allah, the revelation of Allah as to how best to worship Him was progressively revealed over an evolutionary period. Unlike the cosmic re-orderings followed by long periods of revelatory stagnation posited by the Judeo-Christian tradition, Islam affirms a gradual evolution in the relationship between man and Allah and in man's worship of Allah. Prior revelations could and were modified, elaborated, and abrogated.13 In fact, such evolution and progressive revelation occurred not only between prophets, but also within a given prophet's own message and revelation.14 With regard to this, one needs only look to the progressive revelation within the lifetime of Muhammad, which led from no prohibition against alcohol, to prohibition against alcoholic consumption interfering with the performance of mandatory prayers15, to total prohibition of alcohol.16 This concept of progressive revelation is summarized in the following passages from the Qur'an.
None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: knowest thou not that Allah hath power over all things?17
We did send messengers before thee, and appointed for them wives and children: and it was never the part of a messenger to bring a sign except as Allah permitted (or commanded). For each period is a book (revealed). Allah doth blot out or confirm what He pleaseth: with Him is the mother of the book.18
This Qur'an is not such as can be produced by other than Allah; on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the book - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds.19
When We substitute one revelation for another - and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages) - they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them understand not.20
Given the above, it can be seen that Islam began with Adam, gradually evolved though the different covenants and progressive revelations given to the various prophets, and finally culminated in the final revelation given to Prophet Muhammad. In this regard, the contrasts between the Judeo-Christian and Islamic perspectives are dramatic. The Judeo-Christian perspective posits a few stages of religious evolution, each of which is markedly different than the one before it. Metaphorically, one can compare the Judeo-Christian perspective to the drastic revolutions involved in the developmental stages of the caterpillar, cocoon, and butterfly. Each stage is fundamentally different in appearance than the stage before it. In contrast, the metaphor for the Islamic perspective would be that of the budding and opening of a flower, in which the message of Adam represents the first budding21, and in which the final message of Muhammad represents the flower in full bloom.22 However, even within that first bud of Adam's message, there were two fundamental truths, which have never been abrogated of modified, and which continued to be the centerpiece of the message of every later prophet: 1) there is no god but Allah, Who has no partners, and Allah is to be worshiped and served23; and 2) avoid evil and wickedness, for there will be a day of final judgement.24
Excerpted from "The Cross & The Crescent" by Dr. Jerald F. Dirks.
Notes:
1. Qur'an 42:13
2. Qur'an 40:78
3. Qur'an 2:40,63,83,92-93,125; 3:81; 4:153-155; 5:12-14,70; 20:80-83,115; 33:7; 43:46-49.
4. Qur'an 2:125.
5. Qur'an 3:81.
6. Qur'an 33:7.
7. Qur'an 6:42,130-131;10:47,74; 16:36,63,84,89, 17:71; 35:24.
8. Qur'an 6:42.
9. Qur'an 10:47.
10. Qur'an 16:36.
11. Qur'an 35:24.
12. Qur'an 2:106; 3:2-3,23,50,93; 4:44,160; 5:3,15,6:145-146, 10:37; 13:38-39; 16:101; 17:106; 25:32; 26:5; 76:23.
13. Qur'an 2:106; 6:145-146; 13:38-39; 16:101.
14. Qur'an 17:106; 25:32; 76:23.
15. Qur'an 4:43.
16. Qur'an 5:90-91.
17. Qur'an 2:106.
18. Qur'an 13:38-39.
19. Qur'an 10:37.
20. Qur'an 16:101.
21. Qur'an 2:37.
22. Qur'an 5:3.
23. Qur'an 21:35
24. Qur'an 4:164-165; 16:36.
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GZX5 said:
When I was sixteen I left Christianity and converted to Islam, over time growing fonder and fonder of it and I became very stubborn of how I never wanted to go back to my former religion. I went to Mosque, learnt the prayer, payed zakat, learnt more and more about Islamic history, and begun learning Arabic.
One night a few years later, I went to bed and had not a dream but a vision, the only one I've ever had in my entire life and the kind the prophets of all three Abrahamic religions wrote about. In this vision, I was in pitch black darkness and quickly became completely consumed by fear from a foreign source, a kind of fear I never thought possible in this mortal existence, a kind that I literally wouldn't wish upon Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot or any of the most evil men in history. I lost control of my body and was being controlled from something foreign as though I was a puppet or a marionette. Of course I wondered why this was happening, and as I began to think of any possible reasons, I asked "is it because Islam is not true"? Right when the "Islam is not true" part of my question came out I felt a spiritual presence overwhelm me and take those four words and charge me with them almost as though electricity was surging inside my chest. I did not want to accept what I'd heard there, but I also could not deny not only how astonishingly terrifying that was but also how surprised I was and the sheer magnitude of what I had just experienced. It's important to note that I have never consumed drugs or any kind of hallucinogenic or other mind altering substances in my entire life, not even marijuana.
As I said I could not deny what happened in that vision, for to do so would be to lie to myself, even to the deepest part of my soul, that's how strong it was. Subsequently due to this, even though I absolutely did not want to come back, I went back to Christianity. To those on here who say that Islam is true, I leave my experience with you and wish to convey the message that I have nothing to gain by lying, nor am I a prejudiced man, I did after all put in a lot of hard work into becoming a Sunni Muslim before this experience.
2015-09-15
MUNAVVIR FROM INDIA said:
islam is a religion not to fight againt other religions.Other
religion comments islam as a religion taught to fight or
muhammed{pbuh} was not a man with power or strong army.It has a
proof that most of the war was held in the provinces of madinah{The
city of prophet muhammed},which claims that non muslims came to
fight with muslim,so as to protect themselves they fought back.
islam was the
first religion and judaism and chiristianity were formed from
islam.this formally happened due to the interference of shaithan or
devil{laanathullahi alaihi}.in each step of the generations of
mankind ,shaithan came in between them to convert their attention
from allah.Thet couldnt do it to the sons of adam to do shirk.
as a
challenge of islam caan any other religion find truth in themselves
completely......or why do majority of non muslims convert to
islam....all the answer can be taken from those who has converted to
islam.....reead their biographies
religion comments islam as a religion taught to fight or
muhammed{pbuh} was not a man with power or strong army.It has a
proof that most of the war was held in the provinces of madinah{The
city of prophet muhammed},which claims that non muslims came to
fight with muslim,so as to protect themselves they fought back.
islam was the
first religion and judaism and chiristianity were formed from
islam.this formally happened due to the interference of shaithan or
devil{laanathullahi alaihi}.in each step of the generations of
mankind ,shaithan came in between them to convert their attention
from allah.Thet couldnt do it to the sons of adam to do shirk.
as a
challenge of islam caan any other religion find truth in themselves
completely......or why do majority of non muslims convert to
islam....all the answer can be taken from those who has converted to
islam.....reead their biographies
2014-07-01
MARCI FROM USA said:
It's the same GOD who created us all...REMEMBER THAT!!!! Islam Allah... Judaism: Adonai....Christianity God, etc, etc...Each religion sees GOD and worships Him in a diff way. Allah is very colorful!! We have something to learn from each religion. Otherwise there would only be 1 single religion in the world. L@@k A the people of the world..Orientals with slanted eyes, dark skin peoples of Africa, Olive skin from Mediterranean area, Caucasian from European area, straight hair, curly hair, green eyes, brown eyes, blue eyes, etc, etc...Why are you people in the Middle East fighting wars? The U.S. gov't is the real terrorist. They feed the people so full of lies via the news...And thus create Islamophobia mass fear of Islam and Muslims...We all need to start calling each other dear, sweetie and honey. This can be very contagious and soon Inshallah we have world peace. Spread love not hatred. I love everyone though I may not agree sometimes on what they do....Allah (swt) knows all and sees all, yet the human race still wants to fight and hate...So sad.
2013-05-06
ALB FROM NORWAY said:
yes of course it copied.. all cultures had religions. for example the norsemen had norse mythology, greeks had greek mythology (paganism religion) they all believed in many different gods... same with the Israelites, they had their own religion which they were united under, Judaism. now what is the difference between Judaism and those other religions? except for the fact that both, Judaism and Paganism are big fairytales, Judaism believed in one God. they were united under this God, which was a national God. The story of Adam who could reach up from earth up to heaven is a Jewish Legend. the story that the jews are the chosen ones, the stories of Arbaham, Moses, Noah. are all Jewish legends. the no pork, circumcision is jewish tradition.
This all stems from Judaism.
What Mohammad really did is change some parts of this religion and claimed himself as a prophet of this religion, and the prophet of this religions God, which you call Allah.
anybody can do something like that, if they are crazy enough and have enough army to go to war.
I can also change a religion and make myself a prophet and claim all the prophets were not Israelites but for example arabs, and claim they were not jews, but Muslim... islam didn't even exist. so how could they of been muslims? Why was this religion only part of Israelite culture?
Islam is a big fairytale, and I cringe everytime some muslim tries to tell me about this religion, they say the Q'uran has no mistakes, and many things have happened that the Q'uran says. Both claims are wrong. Yet, many of these that tell me these things have never read the Q'uran, what they have done is read some Islamic propaganda site which make scientific claims of the Q'uran like miraclesofquran.com .. or answering-christianity.com . they lie and lie and lie. many of the things they claim the q'uran doesn't even say that. yet they claim it's somehow a ''miracle''. people who don't know any better can be fooled easily.
This all stems from Judaism.
What Mohammad really did is change some parts of this religion and claimed himself as a prophet of this religion, and the prophet of this religions God, which you call Allah.
anybody can do something like that, if they are crazy enough and have enough army to go to war.
I can also change a religion and make myself a prophet and claim all the prophets were not Israelites but for example arabs, and claim they were not jews, but Muslim... islam didn't even exist. so how could they of been muslims? Why was this religion only part of Israelite culture?
Islam is a big fairytale, and I cringe everytime some muslim tries to tell me about this religion, they say the Q'uran has no mistakes, and many things have happened that the Q'uran says. Both claims are wrong. Yet, many of these that tell me these things have never read the Q'uran, what they have done is read some Islamic propaganda site which make scientific claims of the Q'uran like miraclesofquran.com .. or answering-christianity.com . they lie and lie and lie. many of the things they claim the q'uran doesn't even say that. yet they claim it's somehow a ''miracle''. people who don't know any better can be fooled easily.
2013-04-17
DAVID FROM UK said:
this article would never pass for an academic aper anywhere. his
book begins with praise of Allah, he is a muslim convert with an
agenda. he only has 20 footnotes all from teh koran, what he
says about the bible is a generalisation and uncited - his own
opinion.
TO PROVE HIM WRIONH I WILL SAY THIS: What makes you a
muslim, swearing the oath surely, that god is one and muhamed
is his messenger - then how could there have been muslims
before mohamed??????????? the koran blantantly teals from fake
apochryphal gospels like the arabic gospels of jesus - where
jesus executes children because they bump into him. these
stories find their way into the koran (although not that one
fortunately) verbatim. as a person who has read the apochrypal
gospels and the koran the stories are identical, especially the
arabic gospels
book begins with praise of Allah, he is a muslim convert with an
agenda. he only has 20 footnotes all from teh koran, what he
says about the bible is a generalisation and uncited - his own
opinion.
TO PROVE HIM WRIONH I WILL SAY THIS: What makes you a
muslim, swearing the oath surely, that god is one and muhamed
is his messenger - then how could there have been muslims
before mohamed??????????? the koran blantantly teals from fake
apochryphal gospels like the arabic gospels of jesus - where
jesus executes children because they bump into him. these
stories find their way into the koran (although not that one
fortunately) verbatim. as a person who has read the apochrypal
gospels and the koran the stories are identical, especially the
arabic gospels
2008-08-09
AC FROM UK said:
Paradise Comment # 46025: Three simple questions for you:
1). Where did JESUS in the Bible say to his followers. or you, call yourselves CHRISTAINS?
I SAID JESUS, and not any TOM, DICK and Harry of which the Bible is full of.
2). Jesus say's in the Bible that I (Jesus) have been sent to the lost house of Israel, and not the GENTILES. He (Jesus) also says to his followers go to the Jews, and not the gentiles.
Where do you fit in as a gentile (I am presuming your one) when he did not come for you???
3). Jesus in the Bible says he came to fulfill the laws of Mosses to the very dot and not change them or bring new laws. Please point out one new law Jesus brought??
Note: I said Jesus, not Paul or Dick or Bush or Tony or Luke, Mark, Matthew, John and the other 1001 unknown authors of the Bible!!!
Eagerly awaiting your reply!!
1). Where did JESUS in the Bible say to his followers. or you, call yourselves CHRISTAINS?
I SAID JESUS, and not any TOM, DICK and Harry of which the Bible is full of.
2). Jesus say's in the Bible that I (Jesus) have been sent to the lost house of Israel, and not the GENTILES. He (Jesus) also says to his followers go to the Jews, and not the gentiles.
Where do you fit in as a gentile (I am presuming your one) when he did not come for you???
3). Jesus in the Bible says he came to fulfill the laws of Mosses to the very dot and not change them or bring new laws. Please point out one new law Jesus brought??
Note: I said Jesus, not Paul or Dick or Bush or Tony or Luke, Mark, Matthew, John and the other 1001 unknown authors of the Bible!!!
Eagerly awaiting your reply!!
2007-09-12
PARADISE FROM PARADISE said:
Islam undoubtedly copied heavily if not entirely from Christianity. All we need is the first records and documentations which obviously proved that Christianity came into existence way before Islam.
2007-09-12
JABRIL IBRAHIM FROM UNITED SNAKES OF AMERIKKKA said:
Salaam,
Islam is as old as the Creator Himself. Islam is mathematics and mathematics is Islam, you can prove it in no length of time. All of the Prophets(pbut)were submissive to the will of Allah(SWT), which is Islam. The Bible has been tampered with so much by Europeans that even they don't understand the book, if you can't extract the wisdom from the book then it's better to throw it in the fire!
Salaam
Islam is as old as the Creator Himself. Islam is mathematics and mathematics is Islam, you can prove it in no length of time. All of the Prophets(pbut)were submissive to the will of Allah(SWT), which is Islam. The Bible has been tampered with so much by Europeans that even they don't understand the book, if you can't extract the wisdom from the book then it's better to throw it in the fire!
Salaam
2007-07-14
SANA FROM SAUDI ARABIA said:
the claim that islam copied from judaism and christianity is irrelevant because the people who has this claim refer to the stories which quran speaks about is same in the bible though they do not consider the fact that even though the stories are the same but quran speaks this stories in different way that goes hand in hand with the modern science and are accurate whereas the bible has many contradictions and is rejected by many christian shcolars themselves who have the knowledge
2007-07-12
ISMAIL FROM TANZANIA said:
Islam is universal religion with belief to suprime God and defined set of instruction to follow in every aspeckts of life as laid down in all scripture from Adam all prophets to present times
2007-04-26
ZINEDINE FROM MOROCCO said:
Salaamu alaikum,
Kesha,
All religious arguments boil down to one master narrative: Who is God? what's God's word & how does He communicate with us.
All answers can be challenged by an atheist except for scientific established facts that can lead us to the existence of God and the Truth. Some may want to call it energy others like me call it Allah. The second is the Truth some call it Relativism others like me call it Islam (submission to God & His ethernal laws).
Science & I mean scientific established facts can lead us to the Truth & answer some of our master questions about the Master of the Universe.
You can google: The Quran & Science to find some of the answers. Dr Maurice Beaucaille, Dr Keith Moore & Dr Roger Garaudy among others have already found answers to some of these questions & became Muslims after all!
Other questions such as seeing God in person: I can't even look at my dad & discuss my sins with him. If I look at God with my sins, I will die on the spot!
Kesha,
All religious arguments boil down to one master narrative: Who is God? what's God's word & how does He communicate with us.
All answers can be challenged by an atheist except for scientific established facts that can lead us to the existence of God and the Truth. Some may want to call it energy others like me call it Allah. The second is the Truth some call it Relativism others like me call it Islam (submission to God & His ethernal laws).
Science & I mean scientific established facts can lead us to the Truth & answer some of our master questions about the Master of the Universe.
You can google: The Quran & Science to find some of the answers. Dr Maurice Beaucaille, Dr Keith Moore & Dr Roger Garaudy among others have already found answers to some of these questions & became Muslims after all!
Other questions such as seeing God in person: I can't even look at my dad & discuss my sins with him. If I look at God with my sins, I will die on the spot!
2007-04-16
IMAM SOUDI MUHAMADI FROM UGANDA said:
asalaam alaikum.
i totally disagree, islam cant copy from christianity which contradict its self in the bible.
islam is the true religion and source of knowledge. thanks
i totally disagree, islam cant copy from christianity which contradict its self in the bible.
islam is the true religion and source of knowledge. thanks
2007-04-10
KESHA FROM USA said:
I am against this article for the single reason that Christianity is misrepresented. The creator of this universe never meant for only the Israelites to be his only chosen people. For example, Rahab and Naomi to name a few were not original Israelites, but were allowed to be grafted into God's mercy because of simple obedience to his word. All of the other nationalities would not submit to God, but instead chose to worship other false gods. Any group of people willing to submit to God, were considered his chosen people. Another concern I had with this article was the fact that Judaism and Christianity did not start with Adam, while Islam did. The main requirement of Judaism and Christianity is knowing who God is and submitting to him, which is exactly what Adam did, as well as Noah, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Other than the information from the Quran, which was given centuries after the Torah or the Bible was written states that Adam or any other man/woman was a Muslim? Where is the proof, historically before the Quran was written, that Islam was even a religion? I would say none, but if anyone has facts please respond back and keep it clean.
2007-03-26
MALAOUI FROM USA said:
the article I do not mean that I agree that Islam copied from Christianity etc, I am for the overall opinion that states that Islam started with Adam and evolved. One more thing I would like to add to my previous intervention is that: Since Adam the goal for humanity is submission, then in naming the last religion, what better name than the goal it is after hence Islam or submission. Now if we fail to make this distinction between the two in the interpretation of different verses in the Koran, is when we go wrong, the end result is the actual chaotic state humanity is in now. I think unless we start making this distinction in the interpretation and more importantly in the translations, the book of guidance wouldn't be used at its full potential.
2007-03-22
MALAOUI FROM USA said:
I tend to agree, I however think that the word Islam in the Koran is sometimes misinterpreted. It is misinterpreted because we tend to give it only one meaning; that of the religion of Prophet Mohamed PBAH. The other meaning that simply means Submission is often times if not all the time, interpreted to mean the religion of Prophet Mohamed. In my view this mix-up has caused and is still causing a lot of hardship to humanity.
2007-03-22
SHAFIQUE FROM CANADA said:
Every religion before Islam had one message and that is one God and thats what Islam preaches. Most of the religion has changed their original text but Quran is the only and only original word of God.
2007-03-22
ADAM FROM NIGERIA said:
I think many people misunderstood the context of the article. We don,t have to read the whole book to see where Jerald is heading to, just like Muhaideen infered in his comment. The article is a summary of the book. What the author did was to say what Judaism is, what christianity is and what Islam is, in his own thinking. And conciously or otherwise he hits the nail on the head from my understanding of all three "religions" (?). I only hope Mr. Jerald will copelete his quest by choosing the right way ie the way of all the prophets of Allah; the WAY OF ISLAM.
Rabbana la tuzig qulubana ba'ada idh hadaitana wa hablana min ladunka rahmatan innaka antal wahhab.
Rabbana la tuzig qulubana ba'ada idh hadaitana wa hablana min ladunka rahmatan innaka antal wahhab.
2007-03-19
KRIS FROM MALAYSIA said:
Assalamualaikum wrbt and greetings to all.
Give me time, all Muslim Brothers and Sisters, I will write an irrebutable presentation and an impeccable finding that Islam was never cpoied at all from Judaism and Christianity. While I have the greatest respect for christians and peaceful Jews, but I'll qoute excerpts from the Quran and even biblical source that such opinion of copying from other faith are baseless. I call upon good Christians to be objective about my views later which I will present at length by next week. ( the 26th. March 07 onwards )
Yes, right from the source of Abraham ( a.s ) and Ishmael ( Ismail ) and Izaac ( Ishaq ) ( peace be upon them all ). I am just very tightly occuppied this week with the non ending legal tasks and cases hence time is not on my side now.
And to the learned author of this article, your findings are excellent, and I'll fine tuned it later.
Wassalam. and regards,
Give me time, all Muslim Brothers and Sisters, I will write an irrebutable presentation and an impeccable finding that Islam was never cpoied at all from Judaism and Christianity. While I have the greatest respect for christians and peaceful Jews, but I'll qoute excerpts from the Quran and even biblical source that such opinion of copying from other faith are baseless. I call upon good Christians to be objective about my views later which I will present at length by next week. ( the 26th. March 07 onwards )
Yes, right from the source of Abraham ( a.s ) and Ishmael ( Ismail ) and Izaac ( Ishaq ) ( peace be upon them all ). I am just very tightly occuppied this week with the non ending legal tasks and cases hence time is not on my side now.
And to the learned author of this article, your findings are excellent, and I'll fine tuned it later.
Wassalam. and regards,
2007-03-19
MUHAIDEEN BATAH FROM U.S.A said:
The comments of the Muslim folks are dead wrong. As a Muslim who happend to have had read this book, I highly recommend to you all to read it. He says that "according to the Judeo-Christian perspective" and not to him, Islam borrowed heavily from them. The author shows later in his book that the facts about Islam shows that there is no way that Islam borrowed from the rabbinical Judaism and Christianity.
Please read the book before you comment on it.
Please read the book before you comment on it.
2007-03-19
KHAN FROM US said:
In order to look different from Islam, radical and fanatic Christians and Jews edited and revised their holy scriptures, beliefs, facts and lost the real message of their prophets.They got lost and are confused.
Why there is not an Original Bible or Torah like Quran. Why so many editions, revisions and versions of their holy scriptures. A person with comparitive religion course can explain better.
Jesus and Moses are also V.I.Prophets in Islam,The Jews and Christians are so much buried in all of these false assumptions,they do not even want to read and try to get the real facts.
Their minds are locked and sealed by the radical teachings, masses, conventions and the Media and Selfish Politicians.
There is no doubt that Adam is the father of all and sent by the same God-ALLAH. The prophets and people before Jesus have not seen Jesus and did not believe Jesus as Saviour- Will they go HELL?
Why there is not an Original Bible or Torah like Quran. Why so many editions, revisions and versions of their holy scriptures. A person with comparitive religion course can explain better.
Jesus and Moses are also V.I.Prophets in Islam,The Jews and Christians are so much buried in all of these false assumptions,they do not even want to read and try to get the real facts.
Their minds are locked and sealed by the radical teachings, masses, conventions and the Media and Selfish Politicians.
There is no doubt that Adam is the father of all and sent by the same God-ALLAH. The prophets and people before Jesus have not seen Jesus and did not believe Jesus as Saviour- Will they go HELL?
2007-03-18
HAJJIABDUL FROM USA said:
What I find most amazing is that most so-called intellectuals like Jerald Dirks can't seem to wrap their brains around the concept that the same G-d who revealed His Will to Adam, Abraham, Moses,Jesus etc. as well as other prophets and historical sages in other far off lands, is the exact same G-d who revealed His Divine Will to Muhammad (Peace Be upon them all). It is their unconscious biases that prevents them from objectifying the universality of G-d's Divine Will for all of mankind. They really need to get with the program.
2007-03-18
ZINEDINE FROM MOROCCO said:
Salaamu alaikum all,
Good point Norman but don't worry Islam will penetrate every household on earth & shall overcome; what Adam said is true & he understood clearly what this article says. Muslim & Muhammad Ashraf totally misunderstood this article. Of course Islam is unique only if you understand that Judaism & Christianity are a "defamed" form of Islam, changed to serve a special nation in a specific & limited time & space. The nation of Isaq. The author is right but he made one little mistake & that's when the author said "4) the new covenant with Jesus, which for the first time was open to participation by non-Jews." I think this is not a statement made out of ignorance on the part of the author but still he was not careful & should 've added that Christianity became universal because of the blasphemous Saint-Paul who made it open to all & defamed it to please the polytheist Romans. This angered the original Christians (to us Muslims) but the majority always follows the defamed religions of those in power. I believe that the author found the facts I have just added irrelevant to his subject but to me personally it should not be ignored because Jesus was sent only to the lost children of Israel. Other than that this article makes total sense!
Good point Norman but don't worry Islam will penetrate every household on earth & shall overcome; what Adam said is true & he understood clearly what this article says. Muslim & Muhammad Ashraf totally misunderstood this article. Of course Islam is unique only if you understand that Judaism & Christianity are a "defamed" form of Islam, changed to serve a special nation in a specific & limited time & space. The nation of Isaq. The author is right but he made one little mistake & that's when the author said "4) the new covenant with Jesus, which for the first time was open to participation by non-Jews." I think this is not a statement made out of ignorance on the part of the author but still he was not careful & should 've added that Christianity became universal because of the blasphemous Saint-Paul who made it open to all & defamed it to please the polytheist Romans. This angered the original Christians (to us Muslims) but the majority always follows the defamed religions of those in power. I believe that the author found the facts I have just added irrelevant to his subject but to me personally it should not be ignored because Jesus was sent only to the lost children of Israel. Other than that this article makes total sense!
2007-03-16
ABED NAKHLEH FROM NORWAY said:
Assalam alaikum.
Just few words, if somebody copies others, then it is natural that he will copy their mistakes too, if Islam is as such, were are the mistakes of judisme and christianity in islam. Do not exsist. because Islam is not a copy, but neither jews or christians accepts islam as a faith of its own.neither jews nor christians understands islam as it is but as they want to look at it, further they dont understand islams philosohy and its view of humanity and history.
Just few words, if somebody copies others, then it is natural that he will copy their mistakes too, if Islam is as such, were are the mistakes of judisme and christianity in islam. Do not exsist. because Islam is not a copy, but neither jews or christians accepts islam as a faith of its own.neither jews nor christians understands islam as it is but as they want to look at it, further they dont understand islams philosohy and its view of humanity and history.
2007-03-16
HALIM FROM MALAYSIA said:
There is big different between Islam and Christianity for a layman. Christian god have family...the son..maybe the wife...
The god of Islam no beginning and no ending
The god of Islam is the ruler of the universe that hold this universe...the ruler of everything
If Islam is a collection of others such as Christianity and Judaism why we are so different.
Layman term: Christian approve and accept usery, alcohol,pork,prostitution,gambling, keeping of mistress and others that can be witnessed in USA, UK, FRance, Italy and other Christian states. All these are considered big sin in Islam, even if some muslims commited these wrong doing.If muslims commited this crime they did it with guilty feeling. Where is the teaching that they charge Islam borrow from them. Of course the christian today is not the same christian accepted by Islam. Is the christian today who killed millions of children and explode atomic device on human being is the same as islam...plese hundred of million times NO
The god of Islam no beginning and no ending
The god of Islam is the ruler of the universe that hold this universe...the ruler of everything
If Islam is a collection of others such as Christianity and Judaism why we are so different.
Layman term: Christian approve and accept usery, alcohol,pork,prostitution,gambling, keeping of mistress and others that can be witnessed in USA, UK, FRance, Italy and other Christian states. All these are considered big sin in Islam, even if some muslims commited these wrong doing.If muslims commited this crime they did it with guilty feeling. Where is the teaching that they charge Islam borrow from them. Of course the christian today is not the same christian accepted by Islam. Is the christian today who killed millions of children and explode atomic device on human being is the same as islam...plese hundred of million times NO
2007-03-16
MOHAMMAD FROM USA said:
What author failed to emphasize that Islam consider the fundamental message of all the prophets to be the same, essentially unity of God, secondly covenant is the 'Sharia' or that prophet, every prophets Sharia is different (Meaning, its laws, how to pray etc) are different and where give according to its time and space. Hence we do find prayer similar to Muslims in Jewish customs but essentially not exact or maybe timings were more frequent, and we see Jesus in Gospel praying in similar fashion.
2007-03-16
NORMAN HIGGINS FROM USA said:
As long as people of the world distrust Islam, Biblical Christianity will continue to grow ans spread
2007-03-15
MUSLIM FROM USA said:
Assalamo Alaykum
If the writer is trying say that islam is copy then i invite him to read Quran or he should have read Quran before publishing the article. And if the writer read the quran and still think islam is copy then he is simply ignorant. Anyone can win the contest and if you are weak and still fight a boxing match you may wil but if you are strong and knowledgelble then pls do not argue with an ingnorant one as you can never convince an ignorant.
Thanks
If the writer is trying say that islam is copy then i invite him to read Quran or he should have read Quran before publishing the article. And if the writer read the quran and still think islam is copy then he is simply ignorant. Anyone can win the contest and if you are weak and still fight a boxing match you may wil but if you are strong and knowledgelble then pls do not argue with an ingnorant one as you can never convince an ignorant.
Thanks
2007-03-15
MOHAMED ASHRAF FROM INDIA said:
it never, Islam is true & unique religion
2007-03-15
MUNTAKA ABDUL-HADI DABO FROM NIGERIA said:
Islam has been existing for long, so judaism and christian should stop looking it at a different angle
2007-03-15
ADAM FROM NIGERIA said:
Well done, Gerald.
This article will at least help to separate the rice from the chaffs. And clearly also dispelled the saying that Islam and Christianity or judaism (for that matter) are the same, or you can be a christian or a muslim, it does'nt matter as is the saying of most antagonists and even of some muslims. There are only two religions in this world Islam and others..so make your choice cos only one is TRUE.
I however will have wish the article end with point 2 as ..believe in the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) as the seal of all prophets who came to confirm the previous messages, and the only person that deserves total obedience as opposed to "saints", "imams" or "mullahs".
Alhamdu lill-Allah-illadhi hadaina lil islam.
This article will at least help to separate the rice from the chaffs. And clearly also dispelled the saying that Islam and Christianity or judaism (for that matter) are the same, or you can be a christian or a muslim, it does'nt matter as is the saying of most antagonists and even of some muslims. There are only two religions in this world Islam and others..so make your choice cos only one is TRUE.
I however will have wish the article end with point 2 as ..believe in the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) as the seal of all prophets who came to confirm the previous messages, and the only person that deserves total obedience as opposed to "saints", "imams" or "mullahs".
Alhamdu lill-Allah-illadhi hadaina lil islam.
2007-03-15
OSMAN MORO FROM GHANA said:
Asalamu alaikum. Its never true. Islam is a unique religion and cant be compared to any religion.
2007-03-13
ADAMU FROM NIGERIA said:
Assalamu Alaykum,to put it simply the Jews&Christians have not substantiated their opinions with any religous facts ie quatations from the Bible or the jewish scripts.We as Muslims shall continue to propagate the Message of Allah and the Teachings of our Prophet Muhammad(saw),in this manner our fellow brothers that are jewish&christians can understand our religion better.Maassalam.
2007-03-13
DR KHADIJA MANSOOR FROM INDIA said:
Very succintly put, specially to counteract the charges of PLAGIARISM put forth by some non Muslims like christopher hitchens who has advised a REVISION of the Quran to suit the times!!!!
2007-03-13
BING BAUTISTA FROM PHILS said:
Assalam alaykum, the teachings of islam is not borrowed from any of these so called religions. Since the revelations that are in their hands now are either corrupted or man based. Subhannah ta Allah send His final revelation to the Prophet Muhammad (saws) thru the Angel Jibril to confirm what was revealed to all the Prophets since Adam (as)and put mankind back to the straight path, the true deen which is Islam.
As a former Christian i did not find it difficult to worship only one God (La illaha Illalah) since it was the teaching of christianity too, qouting the first commandment. I give thanks and praise to Subhanna ta Allah that He opened my eyes to the true faith, the faith of all the Prophets and that include Isa (as), the son of Virgin Mary which is known as Jesus in christianity.
As a former Christian i did not find it difficult to worship only one God (La illaha Illalah) since it was the teaching of christianity too, qouting the first commandment. I give thanks and praise to Subhanna ta Allah that He opened my eyes to the true faith, the faith of all the Prophets and that include Isa (as), the son of Virgin Mary which is known as Jesus in christianity.
2007-03-13
