Presidential debate on Why do they hate us?


But Who Was Right -
 Rudy Giuliani or Paul Ron? 
A decisive moment of the South Carolina debate. 

Hearing Rep. Ron Paul recite the reasons for Arab and Islamic resentment of the United States, including 10 years of bombing and sanctions that brought death to thousands of Iraqis after the Gulf War, Rudy Giuliani broke format and exploded: 

"That's really an extraordinary statement, as someone who lived through the attack of 9/11, that we invited the attack because we were attacking Iraq. I don't think I have ever heard that before, and I have heard some pretty absurd explanations for Sept. 11. 

"I would ask the congressman to withdraw that comment and tell us that he didn't really mean that." 

The applause for Rudy's rebuke was thunderous - the soundbite of the night and best moment of Rudy's campaign. 

After the debate, on Fox News' "Hannity and Colmes," came one of those delicious moments on live television. As Michael Steele, GOP spokesman, was saying that Paul should probably be cut out of future debates, the running tally of votes by Fox News viewers was showing Ron Paul, with 30 percent, the winner of the debate. 

Brother Hannity seemed startled and perplexed by the votes being text-messaged in the thousands to Fox News saying Paul won, Romney was second, Rudy third and McCain far down the track at 4 percent. 

When Ron Paul said the 9/11 killers were "over here because we are over there," he was not excusing the mass murderers of 3,000 Americans. He was explaining the roots of hatred out of which the suicide-killers came. 

Lest we forget, Osama bin Laden was among the mujahideen whom we, in the Reagan decade, were aiding when they were fighting to expel the Red Army from Afghanistan. We sent them Stinger missiles, Spanish mortars, sniper rifles. And they helped drive the Russians out. 

What Ron Paul was addressing was the question of what turned the allies we aided into haters of the United States. Was it the fact that they discovered we have freedom of speech or separation of church and state? Do they hate us because of who we are? Or do they hate us because of what we do? 

Osama bin Laden in his declaration of war in the 1990s said it was U.S. troops on the sacred soil of Saudi Arabia, U.S. bombing and sanctions of a crushed Iraqi people, and U.S. support of Israel's persecution of the Palestinians that were the reasons he and his mujahideen were declaring war on us. 

Elsewhere, he has mentioned Sykes-Picot, the secret British-French deal that double-crossed the Arabs who had fought for their freedom alongside Lawrence of Arabia and were rewarded with a quarter century of British-French imperial domination and humiliation. 

Almost all agree that, horrible as 9/11 was, it was not anarchic terror. It was political terror, done with a political motive and a political objective.

What does Rudy Giuliani think the political motive was for 9/11? 

Was it because we are good and they are evil? Is it because they hate our freedom? Is it that simple? 

Ron Paul says Osama bin Laden is delighted we invaded Iraq. 

Does the man not have a point? The United States is now tied down in a bloody guerrilla war in the Middle East and increasingly hated in Arab and Islamic countries where we were once hugely admired as the first and greatest of the anti-colonial nations. Does anyone think that Osama is unhappy with what is happening to us in Iraq? 

Of the 10 candidates on stage in South Carolina, Dr. Paul alone opposed the war. He alone voted against the war. Have not the last five years vindicated him, when two-thirds of the nation now agrees with him that the war was a mistake, and journalists and politicians left and right are babbling in confession, "If I had only known then what I know now ..." 

Rudy implied that Ron Paul was unpatriotic to suggest the violence against us out of the Middle East may be in reaction to U.S. policy in the Middle East. Was President Hoover unpatriotic when, the day after Pearl Harbor, he wrote to friends, "You and I know that this continuous putting pins in rattlesnakes finally got this country bitten." 

Pearl Harbor came out of the blue, but it also came out of the troubled history of U.S.-Japanese relations going back 40 years. Hitler's attack on Poland was naked aggression. But to understand it, we must understand what was done at Versailles - after the Germans laid down their arms based on Wilson's 14 Points. We do not excuse - but we must understand. 

Ron Paul is no TV debater. But up on that stage in Columbia, he was speaking intolerable truths. Understandably, Republicans do not want him back, telling the country how the party blundered into this misbegotten war. 

By all means, throw out of the debate the only man who was right from the beginning on Iraq.

Pat Buchanan has been an advisor to three presidents and has thrice sought the office. A founding panelist of four political television shows, he currently hosts MSNBC's daily news program, "Buchanan & Press" and appears on "The McLaughlin Group." He writes a nationally syndicated newspaper column and is the author of six books including the recent bestseller, The Death of the West, which sold over 200,000 copies. In 2002 Pat Buchanan founded The American Conservative with Scott McConnell and Taki Theodoracopulos


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Older Comments:
QUDUS FROM NIGERIA said:
Pls tell George W.Bush and his allies in the west that the God(Allah)of muslims is ever ready to defend the course of the muslim ummah.Insha Allah, the muslims will triumph,Amin.
2008-04-02

LUKMAN MUHAMMED FROM NIGER said:
U.S will continue to witness dis kind of disaster if she does not stop attacking muslims
2007-06-18

MUSTAFA B M FROM NIGERIA said:
Certainly American Govrnment and not the American people courted all the problems that are happening to the citizens of the country. It is rather unfortunate that up till this moment some law abiding American citizens are yet to realize that the real enemy is from within. I advise them to read articles by John Kaminski and David Duke, may be their eyes will opened. For instance the former American secetary of state Medlin Albright plained told all who cared to know that it is worht killing 500,000 Iraqi children through sanctions. If it is worth killing all these innocent chindren simply because they are Arabs nobody is in doubt that they can do even worse than that to any goyim. The truth that is emerging now through records show that the real enemies are from within. Sharon already told us on Octover 3r 2001 that they control America and Americans know it. We are therefore not surprised at all that they can do any dastardly act and blame it on the Arabs.
2007-06-09

ADEOYE FROM NIGERIA said:
the america state may not know peace if it do not stop its sponsored killings and maming of the muslims in the middle east because God will surely fight for the poor & denied persons of the M.E & all other refugeed & maltreated persons of the world
2007-05-29

AHMED ASGHER FROM BAHRAIN said:
Hi Romesh. You think it is unique for factions in Arab/islamic countries to fight each other? This is a human trait. The American civil wars are well documented. Yogoslavia is our time. Any village in Idia where a variety of sects live would be a sitting duck for an invading force to create divisions by siding with one against another. The British took advantage of creating divisions in India as you should/would know? The Western powers in the last 100 years have turned this policy of divide and rule into an art form. As we speak take a look at this: http://antiwar.com/justin/
They never tire from arming one faction against another and have no scruples or an iota of morality about it. I can't understand why you are so supportive of such faschism disguised as freedom/democratic rubbish. When they invade a country based on lies and mobilise all Western forces and take UN hostage and then pay some tribal/sects and arm them against another whilst they sit tight for hatred and revenge to take root, you and others seem to point the finger at us when the actual fault is with the invaders in the first palce and their abhorent policies towards life in any form or shape except their own power-mongering quest for dominance. It is no secret that Israel is arming and training Kurds to infiltrate into Iran and cause terrorist activities. MKO is another case. Various Baluchi factiuons and juntas are another froms of arsenal for US/UK mayhem policy in the ME. They have armed Arab Southerners to create terrorist actiosn in Khusistan. Take time to read between lines instead of continually seeing the victim as the perpetrator. Sure we are dumb and stupid for playing into their hands, but people of any persuation do stupid things for money. No one is immune to corruption except a man of true faith and they are rare. To be a Muslim is no immunity against power and greed yet Islam came to abolish tribal divisions and join humanity as ONE race. Such is the human lot. Sadly.
2007-05-28

JACOB SANDERS FROM UK said:
So, is this what it's come to? Take a right-wing [ ] like Buchanan who would be happy to throw Muslims and Jews into the same cauldron of boiling oil, give him a platform to spout the kind of views we used to hear from infantile leftists a generation ago, hey presto, he's your best mate! I think it is a mistake to think that anyone who despises Jews must be on the side of Muslims. Decent people will support tolerance and decency for all, something the US is better at within its borders than most countries, even though its foreign policy has often been amoral.
2007-05-25

JB FROM USA said:
Please stop blaming Muslims for 911. Serious scientists proved that there were explosives and that it was an inside job politically motivated...
Please confer to those videos:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4488542891415681105&q=911

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=911

There is much more videos that confirms it on Google; just tape 911 in the video sub-section.

Best Regards,
JB
2007-05-25

JAMIEL SOEKER FROM SOUTH AFRICA said:
Why do we chose to ignore the fact that the so-called evidence to justify the attack on Afghanistan of 9/11 is so riddled with flaws and are so inconclusive that one should question who was really behind it before we even attempt to discuss why Muslims, apparently hate America. Lets try and focus on who really did the bombings. Having followed the developments subsequent to 9/11, I do not believe that Bin Laden or any Mulsim organization had anything to do with 9/11. Perhaps the U.S. government knows more about the attacks than its lead the world to believe
2007-05-24

SARFRAZ HUSSAIN FROM PAKISTAN said:
No one hates any one because of nothing. Mostly the hatered is earned. Those who earn it should not grudge it. They should rather face it squarely and smilingly. Americans are a wonderful people. Their political system is wonderful too. But the economic system operating in the country is managed to obtain desired results even if these are costing humanity too much. This is their policy. Those who consider that they are being oppressed by the Americans must endevour to resist to a level that it becomes unbearable to the oppressor. You can not blame others for own misdoings and follies as a nation. The only sure way to avoid agression is to be strong enough to deter it. If you do not do so you are to blame yourself.
2007-05-24

TERRY W. BROOKMAN FROM USA said:
It is mouslem oil wealth that never resches ther people who are kepf in ignornace and superstiotion. You fight amonxt yourselves and would do so if the west was here or not. Your in fighting has ruined your once great sosiety and you would visit thin on the world. That might not be so bat but now you want nuclear weapons to fight your nonsenceacal wars with. The Israileys are not enemy and have more right to jaueslenum than you do. God gave it to them and no one will thak it from now, thye can enforce this as you should knok. I am suprised that have shown rsstraint in the past
2007-05-24

VICTOR ORTIZ FROM UNITED STATES said:
Ron Paul spoke like what I used to be, a moderate Republican. I became a Green when George Bush was first nominated, because I knew my party was gone.

I remember Sept. 11, 2001. I said it was a retaliation for the US and Israel rebuking the other nations the meeting in South Africa on Imperialism and possible solutions for the legacy. I knew it was all the US foreign policy, overt and covert, of the 20th century, maybe even the legacy of the Crusades, coming back at us.

Giulani has the poor sense of human connection that history creates. He has shown he cannot think past getting what he wants, the glory (he basked in 9/11 and now he uses it to bolster his empty candidacy. He should not waste valuable debate time. He should go to the Palestinian camps and talk to people who have been suffering 9/11 for over 50 years and three generations.

I cannot speak for my fellow Americans, but I am truly sorry for their ignorance. I wish there was a venue in the world system for the Muslim voice to really count for something. Repression of it has caused the anger and fanatacism in a few that fuels the Bush machine.
2007-05-24

ABELLO FROM NIGERIA said:
There is already an underlying, unproven assumption that they--the Muslims--are indeed against us--the West. The evidence? 911! This is misleading and the whole debate has been based on this unproven, if convenient, assumption!
I have always argued that there is no Muslim individual, group, or government that has the capacity, the cleverness, and the resources to plan and succeed in bombing targets within USA. I wish we could! The world and the attitude of America would have been totally different.
It is most inconceivable that a Muslim organisation operating from the remote, war-ravaged Afghanistan could successfully plan and launch attacks in NY, USA--a country that, at least according to Western media, had turned its back on the TV, the phone, the computer, electronics, and indeed all the modern gadgets of communication and surveillance.
The debaters should watch videos of 911 IN PLANE SITE, LOOSECHANGE911, ETC and revisit the unfounded venom they vomit on the Muslims. Likewise, Muslim governments, organisations,and leaders who take the 911 story line, hook, and sinker and blame it all on the Muslims should watch these videos.Indeed they should have been guided in their statements by the Qur'aan, which says: 'If a FAASIQ brings news to you investigate it [for evidence].' The 911 story was told by the West and we have no secular reason or religious ground to take it as a TRUE ACCOUNT OF WHAT HAPPENED.
America, for reasons known to itself, attacked itself on 9/11 and blamed it all on the Muslims. And Allah will reveal the people behind it. The Qur'aan says: 'Do not ever think that Allah is unaware of what the unjust people are doing.' Yes, He is aware and He will expose and shame them in this life or on the Day of Judgement.
I am surprised that we poor, ill-equipped, ill-connected people in this remote part of the globe have access to those videos; yet highly connected individuals like these, living in USA, are unaware of them! What a civilisation!
2007-05-23

DELINA FROM INDONESIA said:

This was written by Pat Buchanan. So, there are still American people who can think clearly. The debate was on Fox TV. This is the mouthpiece of Republican. I'm glad that Dr. Paul won the debate. It's time the US learn that Iraq is their second Vietnam.
2007-05-23

MUSTAQIM FROM NIGERIA said:
I dont tink the Muslims or the Arabs hate USA or the Americans per se, even with all the sins and evil they commit daily. Rather it is the Americans, especially the decision makers and the uninformed, that hate Islam, Muslim and the Arabs. Hating and making others hate Islam/Muslims and Arabs brings in economic benefits to the decisionmakers in America. If truly the Americans are hated by the Muslims and Arabs, it is not basically because they invaded Iraq for more than a decade; it is deeper than this. Some of the reasons for this are not far-fetched if one consisders the fact that almost all socioeconomic, moral and political activities that Islam forbids are upheld, publicised and encouraged by America and the West. All this is about material wealth, economic gains, military might and world domination. Due to this, America and the West and the Muslims seem to be on opposing valleys. Historically, stroger nations have always wanted their cultures, either good or bad, to dominate the cultures of the weaker nations. Given the historical nature of the Middle East that has now shaped the features of its current inhabitants, it is not going to be easy to expect a smooth, easy crossover from what they've upheld for centuries to a strange and contrasting one. Whether we like it or not, the war bwt America and the Muslims/Arabs is basically due to a conflict of culture.
The deceptive nature by which America and the West have carried out their relationship with the Muslims and the Arabs for almost a century now, which resulted in, among others, the breaking up of the Muslim and Arab world, the lost of respect for Islam and the Muslims, the acute sense of insecurity by the Muslims, the cheapness of a muslim freedom, rights and live on a basis of suspicion and the cheap, baseless, negative and cotinuous propaganda against Islam, Muslims and the Arabs. This attitude of West led by America is bound to generate suspicion in the heart in the heart of the Muslim and the Arabs.
2007-05-23

MUSTAQIM FROM NIGERIA said:
I dont tink the Muslims or the Arabs hate USA or the Americans per se, even with all the sins and evil they commit daily. Rather it is the Americans, especially the decision makers and the uninformed, that hate Islam, Muslim and the Arabs. Hating and making others hate Islam/Muslims and Arabs brings in economic benefits to the decisionmakers in America. If truly the Americans are hated by the Muslims and Arabs, it is not basically because they invaded Iraq for more than a decade; it is deeper than this. Some of the reasons for this are not far-fetched if one consisders the fact that almost all socioeconomic, moral and political activities that Islam forbids are upheld, publicised and encouraged by America and the West. All this is about material wealth, economic gains, military might and world domination. Due to this, America and the West and the Muslims seem to be on opposing valleys. Historically, stroger nations have always wanted their cultures, either good or bad, to dominate the cultures of the weaker nations. Given the historical nature of the Middle East that has now shaped the features of its current inhabitants, it is not going to be easy to expect a smooth, easy crossover from what they've upheld for centuries to a strange and contrasting one. Whether we like it or not, the war bwt America and the Muslims/Arabs is basically due to a conflict of culture.
The deceptive nature by which America and the West have carried out their relationship with the Muslims and the Arabs for almost a century now, which resulted in, among others, the breaking up of the Muslim and Arab world, the lost of respect for Islam and the Muslims, the acute sense of insecurity by the Muslims, the cheapness of a muslim freedom, rights and live on a basis of suspicion and the cheap, baseless, negative and cotinuous propaganda against Islam, Muslims and the Arabs. This attitude of West led by America is bound to generate suspicion in the heart in the heart of the Muslim and the Arabs.
2007-05-23

F.RAHIM FROM PAKISTAN said:
Paul Ron is admittedly right and truthful and it has already been proved by American voters by favoring Democrats. It may be advisable and instructive for more readers if they study the book "What Islam Did for Us" by Tim wallace-MurphyISBN 1-84293-190-3
2007-05-23

ROMESH CHANDER FROM US said:
Note to Mohammed Shaffique:

You wrote in a note to me "I am sure you know very well that more than 14 hundred years
back the Arabs were much more unruly and savaged but the light of Islam has changed it into a powerful nation.".

Well, Mr Shaiffique, it is sad to say that looking at what is going on in Iraq, Lebanon, Gaza, I wonder if Arabs have shed any of their unruly traits over the last 1400 years. And please don't blame all that on US and Jews. There are civil wars going on in these places, and they cannot be the fault of outsiders only; there is tribal killing going on in Iraq and that is not the fault of US.

You may be hopeful but unfortunately I am not. However, I do differentiate between day dreaming / wishful thinking / hope and reality. I just cannot ignore reality.

It is sad to say that even western educated muslims have stopped thinking; their actions (and thinking) are not any different than they were 1400 years ago.
2007-05-23

AHMED ASGHER FROM BAHRAIN said:
Wow. Talk about living in a cocoon. hypocracy, thy name is Rudy Giuliani. The man lives in total denial. Does he really think that he has carte blanche to rob people from their freedom and treat them like animals and expect no retaliation? I did not see him accept 911 and remain passive! So what makes him think that after 100 years of interference (50 of those by the US) in the Middle East should give him immunity from retaliation. The only suprise part of 911 is that it came so late.

We reap what we sow. Read your 'bloody' history in the Middle East.

That is amazing for responsible people to be so ignorant of simple laws of human nature and physics. no wonder the world is in such a mess. So, you slap someone in the face and expect him to thank you. People are not all Christ-like, least of all those who profess to be followers of Christ.

"For every action there is a re-action. Equal to its force and opposite in direction." Chew that Rudy.
2007-05-23

MOHAMMAD SHAFIQUE FROM CANADA said:
Note to Romesh Chander

I am sure you know very well that more than 14 hundred years
back the Arabs were much more unruly and savaged but the
light of Islam has changed it into a powerful nation. So the time
will speak and the Muslims will prosper and bring peace in the
world.
You are very knowledgeable person and you know very well who
is creating this division and creating problem. Brother nothing is
impossible to Allah(I think you dont believe in God or this sort of
believe). God may change your mind and believe than you will
realise the truth of Islam. Night dreams are only dreams but
remember day dreams are mission and vision. May God bless
you... thank you very much for your active involvement in the
discussion and making comments on Islamic matters. It helps
even though you tend disagree on Islamic principles.
2007-05-22

SALEEM FROM USA said:
Usalam-o-Alikum,

Quran tells us, there are 2 parts in a human. body made up of earth and souls with RooH (sprit), which departs from body at our tim eof deaths.

The soul can hear and see. Like our ears can hear and see. But with sins after sins clouding our souls, man's soul stops seeing and hearing.

Therefore man experience these moments, when he look back and try to reason, why I was not hearing or seeing or simply not responding. What was wrong with me.

So we need not to forget that we have an extra pair of eyes and ears through which we can see and hear.

And sins play an important role in making it impared.

2007-05-22

MIKE S FROM USA said:
Its like an insane murdering lunatic holding a knife over his butchered victim asking, "Why does the dead guy and his family hate me so much"?

Maybe the following photographs will enlighten those of us still confused:

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/1698


2007-05-22

T. AGNEW FROM UK said:
Here are the reasons:
1. We consider our Judeo-Christian heritage, religion and culture superior to theirs
2. We consider our Euro-ethnicity superior to theirs
3. We treat them as if they are designated for hell and, we, heaven
4. We treat their property as ours and have no qualms about simply taking what we want from them
5. We treat their lives as being worthless and have no issues with killing one person or wiping out an entire family, village or city. A white Christian or Jewish life is important, not a Muslim's life.
6. We treat them like beggars and dole out government aid as a carrot to make them see things only our way. If they do not agree with us we simply kill them or torture them until they see things our way
7. Notwithstanding what God has decreed, our Christian and Jewish clergy overtly preach that Muslims are evil and Islam is the devil's religion
8. We stir up hatred for Muslims and Islam in other cultures and regions of the world.
9. We openly and actively assassinate any Muslim leader of with Islamic proclivities and support secularists against any Muslims, no matter if secularists are tyrants and mass murders such as Karimov of Uzbekistan, who boils Muslims to death for fun. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3943.htm
10. We finance genocide of Muslims and their displacement from their land and property where they lived for centuries, as in Israel- all on some idiotic and moronic religious claim - never mind what Christ said- what Pat Robertson and Bush says is more important. We mobilize our churches and Synagogues to raise funds to finance the genocide.
11. We finance any political or religious group that is willing to take up arms against Muslims and actively support governments that are openly anti-Islam -even in their own countries, for example, Algeria, Lebanon, Turkey and Pakistan - hell with democracy, its only applicable here in the West, and that too only within a very narrow definition.
2007-05-22

TASNEEM FROM USA said:
Well, Islamicity, Please start educating your readers abt different leaders and what they support and what they will do for Muslims, so when election time come, we find ourselves voting for the right candidate, supporting them by voting and also giving money and maybe it wont make any difference immediately but next time they will think abt our votes and we will make the difference if we can get couple of millions muslims using their vote to support our cause.
2007-05-22

ROMESH CHANDER FROM USA said:
Note to Mohammed Shafique:

You write "They know very well that this is the
nation who ruled the world and will rule again".

I will say, there is nothing wrong with Day Dreaming. May be British, Spanish and Greeks are also day dreaming for recovering their old empires. Funny, British cannot even handle their own dispute with Irish; Greeks and Spanish are lucky to call their countries as their own. And Arabs cannot even gather together for a lunch without any fight.
2007-05-21

F MENDEZ FROM USA said:
Why they hate us? I ask why if you are a white Christian or Jewish you get treated better than if you were black or latino or asian? For all those who have not been to the US yet- you are not missing anything. Here is news from the LA Times - a sample of how they treat humans -naturally Americans love their pet pigs and dogs more. After reading this, would you still wantt o come to this slaughter house?
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-king20may20,0,6057993.story?
2007-05-21

WM FROM CANADA said:
Ron Paul is exactly right. It is unfortunate that Rudy either lost his ability to reason or, maybe worse, will say anything for political benefit with the Republican right. Islamic radicals have their reasons to hate us, and I doubt they include either a belief that they are themselves evil or that they have a passionate hatrid of our Constitution or our Big Macs.
2007-05-21

TIM NEVINS FROM CYPRUS, GREECE said:
Why do they hate us? Let's see. On a lie, we invade their countries. Kill their men, women and children but not before we torture and rape them and sodomise their men. Poison their lakes and rivers. Drop 5 million cluster bombs all over their country. Steal their oil and land. Rob their museums and steal even the wristwatches off the innocent civilians we murdered. Support their genocide by our friends the Israelis. Use our media and money to drum up hate for Islam and Muslims. Demonise their religion and their prophet. Foment ethnic hatred between Sunnis and Shias. Arm them at different times and enjoy as they kill each other. Place bombs in market squares, massacre civilians and claim that either Shia or Sunnis did it, then sit back and watch even more ethnic killing. You know our actions are so devious and so utterly evil that even the devil shies away from us. Then we shamelessly wonder, 'why they hate us'?
2007-05-21

R DEANGELO FROM USA said:
I have a flower shop in NY city. There was a pretty decent Muslim guy, Amed from Bangladesh who had been selling books on the sidewalk by my shop. The poor guy could not make more than $ 40.00 a day. He has 6 kids to feed at home and a wife who has cancer. He worked all day and then in the evening I gave a job cleaning up. He usually went back to his family at 11 or 12 am. A simple unassuming family guy. Then came 9-11. First the cops took him away. He came back after a week and had bruises on his forehead and eye, he was obviously beaten. When I asked him if the cops did this to him he was scared to death and refused to even to talk to me. Poor guy thought the worse was over. A month or so later some guys came in suits flashed badges and took him away for questioning. I Imagine it was the FBI or dept of justice jerks. Well this time Amed never came back. A couple of bums who looked like suited punks came by and asked me about Amed and about me giving him a job. I said sure. I asked where Amed was, they said t was none of my &*#@$!^ business. So I backed off. Then 4 months later I find out from this other guy selling stuff on the sidewalk that Amed's wife died. I called the cops no help. I called the social service they would not even pick up the phone. I don't know where the poor guy stayed so next time I saw his friend I told him I wanted to give Amed's kids some money. The guy told me Amed had not been seen again. His wife had never done anything but take care of kids and didn't know any English. She was too scared to ask for help. She thought the cops would take her kids away. Well she died and the neighbors turned the kids to child welfare. When the super came to evict them they would not come out of the apartment. He found the wife dead. He turned the kids into child welfare. Now the kids have all been broken up and sent to different foster homes. I hear Amed's dead too. What was his crime. So why do they hate us now?
2007-05-21

MOHAMMAD SHAFIQUE FROM CANADA said:
They dont hate Muslim in true sense they are afraid of Muslims'
growing strength and power. They know very well that this is the
nation who ruled the world and will rule again with the beauty of
Islamic principles laid down in the Quran propagated by Holy
prophet Mohammad (PBUH). One tends forget that communism
has been destroyed and brought down to it's knees because it
was a wrong it was a system of oppression and suppression. But
no body can even dare to stop Islam from spreading thick and
fast because of it's beauty. Islam preaches world peace, love.
global brother-wood and definitely above all the word of Allah
for true guidance for this world and unending next world. In due
course learned critics will come under the fold of Islam when
they will realize & experience the true beauty of Islam.
MY hats off too the writer for being a good Muslim and loyal
Canadian citizen. Brother you will get your due respect and
honor from Allah and definitely from the learned people of USA,
Canada and people of the World. May Allah guide us all in
straight path.

2007-05-21

S. FIELDINGS FROM UK said:
Here is a thought for those of us who are still scratching their heads and wondering, why they hate us? What if there was a neighbourhood thug, a well known murderer, rapist and thief living in London and every now and then whenever he felt the need to gather his cronies and go about murdering children, women and men in cold blood, setting their homes on fire, and for fun he and his buddies would use children and old men & women for target practice, robbed people at will or simply blew their brains out if they resisted or if he considered them a threat - all under the nodding eye of the British government. Naturally people would go insane, and attack the murderous creep his cronies and the government and the carnage that would ensure would make the slaughter during the French revolution look like a picnic. But one would wonder how and why such a cockroach was able to operate overtly with the full approval of the government? Well that is the situation one sees in Israel's utterly heinous behaviour towards not just Palestinians but Muslims in general and what better support to have than that of yet another murderous thug who makes his own rules and feels that he is above the law - George Bush. What exactly is the difference between Bush and Saddam? Both massacred thousands. A corrupt, genocidal megalomaniac- well describes them both. Only difference is one creep has the support of a cowering and shamefully complicit EU, NATO and UN while the other was just a useful idiot for the Americans, who outlived his usefulness and had to be sacrificed for a bigger plan. The following article well describes the frustration of the Islamic world with us. After reading the article would one still wonder why they hate us? I am just amazed that the question is even asked, when the answer could not be clearer. Here is the article:
http://lataan.blogspot.com/2007/05/israel-to-execute-palestinian-political.html
2007-05-21

KHAN FROM US said:
The hate was re-created / re-invented by some radical,extremist and money greedy Jews, Christians and Politicians.

They hate our religion, Islamic ethics and values, resources, prosperity, development, technology.

They want us to live as a poor,convert and be the slaves, beg for everything,give our resources and wealth to them.

They are sucessful with their Mega plans, events, biased media, propogandas and with help of some muslims too.

This is plain and simple.
2007-05-21

IMRAN FROM USA said:
Whoa there!

An anti Muslim right wing bigot like Pat not only calling the kettle black but having his article online at Islamicity makes me very
worried indeed!

Lest we forget while he is telling the truth the reasons are simple - hea wants to distance himself a lame duck administration.

Period!

Just wait till Hillary Clinton shows up and starts leading the polls close to November 2008 and then watch Pat spew his hatred for "liberals" and show his true colors!

2007-05-19

ROMESH CHANDER FROM USA said:
Ron Paul has consistently voted against the war. So, I sent him some campaign contributions for his presidency. The other day I got a mail from him. All he was talking about conservatism, cutting taxes, etc. Surprisingly, the word IRAQ did not appear anywhere in the 2 page mailing.

Should I believe in Ron Paul? I am having serious doubts about him, too. No more campaign money from me for any of the presidential candidates, Republican or Democrat.

Looks like all politicians are hypocrites. All they want is your vote by making wild statements.
2007-05-19

MOHD HANEEF YUSOFF FROM MALAYSIA said:
Americans, after years being brainwashed with the "we are the best" and "Islam is evil" rhetoric from their Jew-controlled media is now just learning that the world is against them.

USA is NOT a free country. The two-third majority who opposed the war and the thousands of demonstrations they conducted in hundreds of city across USA has no effect because the US Government is dictated by the many Jew-infested think tanks. I doubt this (my) message won't reach the Americans if it were to be emailed to all the newspapers because they Americans have no freedom. They are dominated, cheated and disillusioned by their Jew-controlled media, Congress and Government.

So, the international community must help free America from Jewish domination. If not, forever, USA wil be the slave-dog of Israel, serving Israel's interest.

Thank you
Smart Man
2007-05-19