Mahathir's advice on US Elections
Open letter to American Muslims Dear Brothers and Sisters, In the past four years, during the Presidency of George W. Bush, the Muslims and their countries have suffered oppression and humiliation as never before in the history of Islam. There is an obvious connection between the sufferings of the Muslims and the policies and thinking of Bush. We cannot expect much change to the policies of the United States of America towards Islam and the Muslims under Democrats as under Republicans. But we have a duty to ensure that Bush will not be able to determine our fate for four more years. Kerry may not be any different. But the candidates for the Presidency of the United States must be made aware that in democratic America, Muslim citizens have a voice and can influence the selection of the rulers of the country. Bush has shown that despite his protests, he is the cause of the tragedies in Afghanistan, Palestine and Iraq. People, including children, women, sick and disabled people, have been and are being killed in these countries who otherwise would be alive today. Under the pretext of attacking terrorists, whole towns and villages with their populations are being destroyed by rockets and bombs. In Palestine, Israeli gun-ships and tanks razed villages and towns to the ground killing innocent men, women and children. All these are done with the approval of President Bush and his veto in the United Nations Security Council. There is no doubt that he will continue to do this if re-elected. I need not tell you more about the atrocities committed against the Muslims and Islam. But I would like to appeal to you, the Muslim citizens and voters of America, to be united and to cast your votes against Bush, in the name of justice, in the name of Islam. You may not be numerous enough but in marginal constituencies you can make a difference. It is your bounden duty to send a message to candidates that they must be fair to all the communities in the United States if they wish to rule the country. Even if you fail to unseat Bush, you can at least reduce his majority. But Inshaallah, Bush will lose and Kerry will realise that his victory is partly due to you. Inshaallah, President Kerry will remember the Muslims in America when he rules the United States of America. Dear Brothers and Sisters. Vote Bush out of office. It is truly an ibadah that you perform. DR MAHATHIR BIN MOHAMAD 15th October 2004 |
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There are GOOD point on this. but the main thing is whoever the winner they are SAME. Therefore WE, as MUSLIM need to fix ourself first and dont ever looks for their sympathy on our current situation. WE HAVE TO UNITED... to make our voice heard.If all muslim in the world can go and vote for Kerry then do nothing - result is SAME as now.
Why dont we (Malaysian muslim) start to work hand by hand with PAS or KEADILAN? can we? or r u will?
Dr. Mahathir is an intellect who observes and derives solutions that could be of help to solve issues at hand. He is unbiased and many of his straight forward approaches could not be comprehended by some negative people, who're always thinking negatively of his sincere views or comments or suggestions - thinking, he wants to gain something from his thoughts like some lowlife wannabe leaders who always look for recognitions.
Like it or not, Dr. Mahathir has already proven his credibility and leadership qualities in many different areas. (* saw some comments on ISA: It's logical to have ISA in helping to stabilize a nation. Infact, our southern neighbor uses it more to just about anyone opposing its govt's policies! & that's abusing the power of the ISA)
Re: his open letter, his sincere advise is for us as an ummah, to be united and to try to help our Brothers and Sisters who are openly being manipulated and oppressed in Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan; in any little way that we can.
In this US election-case, to help persuade voters to NOT TO VOTE the current president whose international policies clearly favor the Israelis who are themselves outright terrorists long before 9/11 and which still continue openly until today.
Bottomline, in this little way, by being united, we could insyaAllah head towards positivities - bringing the right perception of Islam, and of Muslims; to the peoples of the world - Bringing peace and harmony to this one world of ours. PERIOD. Wassalam.
I am still undecided at this late hour. Each candidate has pluses and minuses and they are very close. I beleive however that neither is going to be responsible for making the Muslim countries better off than what their leaders are willing to do on their own.
Mr. Mahathir Bin Mohamad had his chances in his country and he seemed to have failed in making a difference too.
Dr. Mahatir (as a former politician) is merely voicing his opinion on something that would affect all people around the world, due to US being a superpower.
The point is that we (whatever our religion) are free to choose whether to concur or not. There is no "herd" effect as in his convincing all to follow his ideas.
That is the great thing about Islam too. That there is no compulsion to believe.
I also advise any student of Islam to be conscientious in selecting their sources of information as other people's opinions are usually biased and this great piece of work revealed to can only be attempted to be translated.
Zain Bahari
in conclusion,please don't re-elect Bush as Presiden.after this probably Kerry would consider about Muslim power in electing a US president.
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eloquently by more credible Muslim leaders but a call
coming from Mahathir Mohamad can not go unchallenged.
Here we have an example of a man who made a career of
berating the Muslim community in his homeland and
throughout the Muslim world yet championing himself as a
defender of his faith. The subservient media in Malaysia
would do his bidding in projecting himself not just as a
champion of Islam but of the developing world. Yet when
once overseas he would not disdain from attacking Islamic
groups across the spectrum or from talking to the West in
an apologetic and appeasing manner.
If American Muslims stand against Bush for eroding their
civil liberties, lack of accountability, refusal to admit
mistakes, winning elections by what could only be called
fraud and cultivating a climate of fear then what would they
make of a call from a man who has practised all this in
Malaysia. Throughout his tenure, civil liberty groups and
non-governmental organisations have condemned
Mahathir for all the various undemocratic and patronising
laws. Among these Malaysians have laws that forbid more
than 4 people meeting for political motives without a police
permit, laws that forbid printed material to be freely
distributed without a licence and most infamously the
Internal Security Act which puts the Patriot Act to shame.
I hate to burst the bubble in this manner but I am not
aware of any Muslim political leader both present and in the
recent past who has come to power yet could be regarded
as a credible spokesperson for the Muslims. The Arab
leaders may be worse than Mahathir but Mahathir's dubious
credentials and legacy leave me in no doubt how informed
Muslims in America will treat his condescending appeal.
I am a Malaysian, and I guess pessimistic enough about the (controlled) official media and other apparatus to have sought alternative views on things Malaysian - right from its Merdeka history down to its involvement in shady oil deals worldwide.
To me personally, Mahathir is too much a pragmatist to let this one last opportunity (to get his name in "the good book") to blind the Muslim community to his own injustices and cruelty towards his people - many of whom are Muslims.
I could understand adoring comments and opinions of oppressed Arabs re Mahathir "bold opinions" (after all the silence of the despotic leaders of Ash-Sharq Awsat is deafening when it comes to America and her policies!) but really, the Malaysians should know better....[then again, I regret to say that most Malaysians are ignorant of their own history and their Islam ritualistic, not spiritualistic]
Bush or Kerry? Really, as Mahathir said, there isn't really a choice. One can't even say which is the lesser devil (perhaps one is a 'proven' devil?). But Mahathir does have a point: American Muslims need to make themselves heard. Prove to America that you have a voice. A voice that can influence the course of American history. A voice that calls for justice, for peace, for equality. In short, the voice of Islam.
Ramadhaan Mubaarak everyone!
Saddam killed how many of his own people while sat backed and watched (i.e. saudi,..)?
How about the taliban... where were the muslims to stop them???? Ohh thats right (saudi) recognized them as a legal government... talk to your local afghan brothers about how the taliban where.. and we dont even need to mention how the other "tribes" acted...
Man, all i can say is this.. we muslims need to clean up our own backyard before we start saying who is bad or good...
The "oppression" we have faced in America, its cause of bush policies??? or is it from ignorant red necks who really dont know any better??? Did muslims reach out to them before Sept 11th??? We barely give salams to each other in the masjid...
Lastly.. my question is for Dr. Mahathir directly.. (he wont read this I know):
Since u were the Prime Minister of Malaysia... how many soldiers did you send to Chechnya do defend the muslims oppressed there??? Whats that.. NONE??? Blame yourself too for the Oppression...
We All know the hadith... close meaning about the Oppressor and the Oppressed both commit a sin...
It is true and i'm sure on it that Kerry more or less are quite the same as Bush. But by the Muslim unite and make their voice cried out loud, they can send a clear message to the president that they should treat Muslim with more respect. Muslim too have the power to choose their leader. Muslim must unite, this is the only way to show to the world that we were a loving and friendly people not a terrorist or enemy. It is really sad to see and hear that Muslim are fighting against each other while they should find a way to develop their life to earn more respect. We must stop fighting each other and start unite.
ASAK!
Please vote to make sure Bush is re-elected. My conscience tells me that Kerry may turn out to be worse than Bush. Atleast we know Bush and his standing on various issues concerning Muslims. In a way, I think Bush is uniting Muslims like never before, with his policies.
Though I mourn for thousands of our Muslim brothers, sisters and children killed due to the preemptive wars launched by Bush and his cabal of neo conservatives, on a broader perspective for Muslims in general, I think Bush has turned out to be a blessing in disguise.
For some reason, I foresee a more bleak future for Muslims under Kerry, than under Bush. By voting for Kerry, I think we will be repeating history with what we did with Bush-Al Gore, by voting for Bush back then, instead of Al Gore. If I had a right to vote here in USA, I woud vote to re-elect Bush, and NOT vote Kerry.
I was and am always proud of Mr Mahathir's openeess in his views and his braveness.Allah SWA has given this leader as a gift to muslims.His views are true and should be followed.Well,i am not telling the muslims out there to follow it blindly.If some of the muslims are against it,please take a few minutes to review it and make a good decision as it really affect every muslims in the country(this is especially for the American muslims).Last but not least,Happy Ramadan.
Dr Mahathir leads us like no one has ever had! May God bless him!
last year, and I have to say I agree with nearly everything he
says. He is outspoken and not afraid to say what he feels and
quite honestly it's refreshing. I think he voices opinions many
people, Muslim or non, agree with. Few politicians dare go
against the pro-American current.
Read his book, co-written by Shintaro Ishihara, "The Voice of
Asia." It's worth it.
And Mahathir remembers the Afghani people. Most people talk
about the war in Iraq as wrong, what about the war in Palestine
or Afghanistan, aren't these wars wrong too?
Bush and Cheney have caused so much destruction in their four
years. I don't like Edwards, esp. his views on "Israel"...he goes on
about the poor Israelis, completely oblivious to the plight of the
Palestinians, and their diaspora! But I agree with Mahathir, Kerry
is the better of the two candidates. But I'm not American and
cannot vote.
Honestly, like it or not, the next leader of the US is, in a way,
everyone's leader. We need to get involved and educate
Americans. Imagine a first world country where 1 in 5 adults are
illiterate! That's a shame. Americans should spend more money
on their own people than bombing other nations' people, or
supporting regimes that kill innocents.
As a Muslim, I shed tears watching the innocents perish both in New York and also in the streets of Baghdad,Palestine and Afghanistan.
Muslim leaders worldwide are to be blamed for their egos and indifference to the sufferings of their fellow Muslims.
Crusaders like Bush have taken advantage of the divided Muslims and invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. Leaders such as Dr.M should have called for the uniting of Muslim nations like what Christian Europe has done but he was busy defending his position . Anwar Ibrahim, his anointed successor was in the slammer for 6 years, politically assassinated and only released recently on a technicality.
Dr.M's calling for Bush's ouster is tantamount to interference in America's domestic affairs but Muslims worldwide have no choice but to support his views.
Dr.M's no angel either but we leave it to Allah the Almighty to judge him in the hereafter.
For the moment being, I would like to see Kerry redeem America's honor amongst the nations of the world after being made the object of hate all over the planet because of Bush's agenda of hate under guise of fighting for freedom.
We can smell Bush's hidden agenda as a result of his brutal murder of innocent Muslims in Iraq.
If Saddam was his goal, what the hell is America doing still in Iraq?
Isn't it obvious that Iraqi oil is their objective?
Bosnia didn't see America staying on when the Serbs massacred hundreds of thousands of Muslims right in front of their eyes!
Why? Because there's no oil in Bosnia!
OIC are a bunch of egoistical hypocrites continuously bickering amongst themselves.
No wonder Bush and Blair can get away with murder right before the entire world!
Muslims in America have the choice to stand behind whom they want to vote for.
Bush is a known devil.We can just hope that Kerry stays just for a better
Whether u r a sunni, shiah, shafee, hanafee OR watever, shud not make any different! A muslim is a muslim, unite!
If we cannot change our own mindset, then how could we do the same to others? When we use one finger to point at others, there are another 3 fingers that are pointed to ourselves. And many do not realise that. We can only change how people treat us unless we can first change ourselves, our mindset. Otherwise, we could only use "VOICE" (how effective can it be - example is Dr. Mahathir?) or "BLOW-UP overselves and many innocent human beings" to seek attention. At the end of the day, nothing is achieved.
If no effective change is currently taking place within ourselves, the next and future generations can never be better off than now for majority of Muslims.
You are wrong. America is NOT against Muslims.
We are against militant Muslims, such as those
that bombed our Twin Towers, and the Pentagon.
We are not going away Mr. Former Prime Minister. And we will not tolerate Muslims or anyone else trying to intimidate us. We can get our hackles up when you try to interfer with our
politics. We are a democratic country, who loves God. Democracy is what God alone can give to all peoples of the world. It is not too late. Jesus died to save all sinners. Jesus lives and will return soon. You might want to consider that if your religion preached tolerance, and love, which seems to be what You want, then try giving love to others, including America. Thank You.
Yes 4 long years I have been crying and praying for Muslims worldwide who are suffering being 'bullied' and humiliated by the U.S. Bush government and their cronies. AlMighty Allah SWT help us be strong in body and spirit always.
I am a malaysian & not a muslim, I totally agree with Dr Mahathir & truely understand the need for a new leader in USA. He is greatly an outspoken man.
However, this is not a new or well thought of problem. It has been since the fall of Othman empire.
The Muslims & other races/religions somehow form a symbian partnership. Any party that lags will cause a severe problem in some way to the other party.
Thank you.
islam and muslim countries it is duty of each and
every muslim of usa to vote out bush and is regime
in the presidential election.
Also people forget How Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Chaney forced the CIA to make false reports against Russia so Ronald Reagan could be persuaded to act against Russia.
Justice will always prevail and the TRUTH will come out even when people want to hide it.
USA has killed thousands of innocent Muslims in IRAQ and before in Afghanistan.
USA wants to have its cake and eat it too. Sorry this is not possible and if USA will not be JUST, people of the world will demand it and they will get it.
USA is responsible for invading many countries and murdering millions of people since the Second World War. Bribing and threatening is the way of the USA in every part of the world where they tried to get a stranglehold.
No unjust ruler or country has ever survived and nor will the USA if it does not change now. This is very sad as the American people can be the most hospitable in their own back yard BUT if you find them in your back yard, looks out for the red stuff that runs in your viens.
Most trully we cannot expect a change of policy if Bush is re-elected and i doubt if it will change under Mr Kerry knowing fully of the zionist agenda that teleguides almost all american leaders.
But of the two we must choose the latter(of two evils choose the lesser).
May Allah grant us victory.Amin
Jazakallah
I would write more, but I am rushed for time at the moment. Assalamualaikum to all and Assalamualaikum to Dr Mahathir.
I am as a muslim always pray to Allah, my God so you the next election will lose and Kerry will get his victory. Remember Mr. Bush that all human being in the world will die at once and if you die, you face your God to take a responsibility on your damn sin in the world.
http://www.iviews.com/Articles/articles.asp?ref=IV0410-2482
Also Bush does not care if it's an Iraqi or Palestinian or Afghani life being killed, all he cares about is if the one killed is an American voter.
All Bush cares about is his American interests. The Iraqis don't have an interest in his books.
Vote for your own interests!
Azlan Latif
Oct 21, 2004
As explained by Prophet Muhammad in his hadith "when the world come to an end (Qiamat), "imam mahadi" will be born to fight "Dajjal". When Mecca surrounded by "Dajjal", then Imam Mahadi will be elected as our leader with the support of Prophet Isa by Muslimin, to fight back the "Dajjal". At that time, Imam Mahadi is very old but very influential". Guest - who is Imam Mahadi?
Who is Dajjal. In my opinion, Dajjal is coming from the west and I believed they are USA and Western. Their intention is only one - to destroy muslim from this world. All their actions are from Jewish's instuction, wants to rule the world by proxy. USA and Western are dying for them. Now, I request you to boycott all the "Dajjal" goods and interest. By boycotting their goods and interest you are doing an ibadah. Now what Muslims leader should do is to sell oil US$1000 per barrel to USA, Western countries and Non-Muslim Countries, to strengthen military, to trade among muslims countries, to employ among muslim ummah, to develop our own ICT, to build a lot of University, to build research and development Management, to choose the right leader etc...
Now, as you see they invaded one-by-one muslim countries. First Palestine then Afghanistan then Iraq and next is Who? Saudi Arabia and to invade Kaabah is their nasty agenda. They are Syaitan.
just follow what he say and he is not a liar. He is a long-Muslim-By-Election
leader and as a result of his leadership, Malaysia becomes one of the
giant in economy in Asia, his people live in harmony and going towards
development. As explained by Prophet Muhammad in his hadith "when the world
come to an end (Qiamat), "imam mahadi" will be born to fight "Dajjal".
When Mecca surrounded by "Dajjal", then Imam Mahadi will be elected as our
leader with the support of Prophet Isa by Muslimin, to fight back the
"Dajjal". At that time, Imam Mahadi is very old but very influential".
Dajjal is coming from the west and I believed they are USA and Western.
Their intention is only one -to destroy muslim from this world. All their
actions are from Jewish's instuction, wants to rule the world by proxy. USA
and Western are dying for them. Now, I request you to boycott all the
"Dajjal"
goods and interest. By boycotting their goods and interest you are doing an
ibadah. Now what Muslims leader should do is to sell oil US$1,000.00 per barrel
to USA, Western and Non-Muslim Countries, to strengthen military, to trade
among muslims countries, to employ among muslim ummah, to develop our own
ICT, to build a lot of University, to build research & development management, to choose the right leader for the right ummah etc...
Under the guise of many different causes (freedom and human rights being the main ones) America is implementing a strategy that is not new. History has shown that the British, French to name but afew, have all done it. However, the extent and viciousness of the current American initiative is without parallel.
What goes around comes around, Insyallah. So the Bushs' of this world take note.
Being a moderate and peaceful muslim I do not condone terrorism, but what we are seeing today is a reaction of those that have been sponsored by the very same people they now attack.
This is past American foreign policy coming back to haunt them. This is also what happens when Democrats and Republicans play musical chairs with the White House. What goes around comes around.....remember that!
The ignoring of the Crusades, Bosnia and Kosovo and the Syrian aliwite regeme as persecutors of Muslims is ignored by the author for the convenience of making and argument against Bush.
While certainly the civil liberties for Muslims in America have gotten worse under Bush... The author makes claims that he can not back up as to the level of this occurance... All in all it is poorly written and conveniently inaccurate...
of course it seems that everyone wants to sing its praises despite being so glaringly cliche and decidedly uninformative...
If you asked me to sum up this article in 4 points...
I would call it
1. Unresearched
2. Irresponsible
3. Propaganda
4. Unislamic
Salaam
I am in favor of Mr. Mahatair Muhammad point of view but beside this i want to highlight another point which is more important is that " Only way to secure Muslims round the world is we should unite & forget our differences".
I think this is the only solution by which we Muslim can rebuild our identity.
Regards,
Syed Sharjeel Ali Rizvi
Mother of democracy, the Great Britain introduced constitutional right to vote, and first created in 1832 fairer constituencies and extended the franchise to middle-class property owner in 1867. To prevent intimidation and bribery the secret ballot was introduced in 1872, after years of campaigning by the Suffragettes in 1928 all women over 21 won the right to vote, which was lowered to 18 years in 1969. What a pity that the meaning of this spirit of adult franchise has now been accepted as a license to rule without impunity and any respect for rule of law, justice and fairplay in consideration of their loyalty of the franchise to WTO and War against Terrorism. So let us bury the bill of rights and privileges, also known as the great Charter of Liberties-sealed by King John in 1215 and its famous phrase ""to no one will we sell, deny or delay right or justice."
Yours etc.,
Ali Ashraf Khan
Now his vindictive conduct on this website is a shame to all Muslims in Malaysia, especially on this holy month when every Muslim is supposed to be looking inwards for salvation.
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We are grateful to ALLAH that we are now blessed with a genuine and humane person as our Prime minister and leader.
Thank YOU.
I'm no Bush fan but it seems that many of you seem to forget that the US would not be in Iraq or Afghanistan were it not for 9-11. Also, many of you don't give him credit for the fact that he is always defending Islam from Americans who blame Islam for 9-11 and would like even harsher treatment for crazies (or suspected collaberators)who murder in the name of Islam. Believe me, there is rage boiling beneath the surface in the US. A large portion of the US population blames Islam and they also tend to distrust Muslims in general because of their silence in condemning the Jihadists.
The biggest advantage that Bush has is that he is seen by many, if not most Americans, as the man who can best fight the Jihadists.
I think U.S Muslims shuold bycout this election.
Thanks & Regrads
Salam To All
1. I think it's abhorent that anyone would vote for Bush this time around.
2. Holding Bush solely to blame for Israel/Palestine is stupid. He's not doing anything to help, but it's the Israelies who are killing men, women and children, destroying homes, and other War Crimes. It was happening before he was in office, it will be happening when he's gone.
3. The best way to get Bush re-elected is to make it well known that some 'Muslim leader', wants Kerry in office, even if Dr. Mahathir is a leader in his own mind only. Sad, but that's the reality in the US these days.
Peace.
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"We will do a better job than Bush of holding those Arab countries accountable for funding terrorism. We'll do a better job of protecting the state of Israel than they are today"
......"I've climbed to the top of Masada and I've stood on the top of Masada and yelled out as the Air Force recruits and others used to from the side of that cliff, the words 'Am Yisrael Chai!'"
John Kerry,
Democratic presidential candidate
Aljazeera.net
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in real it is hard to see who is who, but Dr. is still right........
I guess we are forgetting that for over 1000 years it was completely ILLEGAL to be a Muslim in Europe...
Muslims suffer worse persecution for being strict adherents in our own countries to degrees far worse than anything Bush has done... While I agree that things have gotten worse for Muslims in General I find that this is just another example of overstating and exageration in our own community...
"Ever before in the history of Islam"
Whatever
"In the past four years, during the Presidency of George W. Bush, the Muslims and their countries have suffered oppression and humiliation as never before in the history of Islam."
Afghanistan election results at http://www.afg-electionresults.org -- indeed, how "tragic" and "humiliating" (no thanks to Malaysia).
Malaysia didn't recognize the Taliban that oversaw a starving Afghanistan during the pre-Dubya years (only Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and UAE did....and some help THEY were). Afghanistan was in an equally, if not more tragic state then than it is now. But Mahathir, for some reason, chooses not to acknowledge this.
For all his criticism of Bush, Mahathir can hardly claim any credit himself for making things better for Iraq, Afghanistan, and Palestine....except to be a political heckler. As someone else alluded to earlier, Mahathir should also be writing to the people of Iraq, Afghanistan, and Palestine as to what responsibilities THEY have in improving their respective governments.
American moslem maybe unable to influence Mr Bush on his evil actions, but, their voting right can send him out of his office for the next term.
So DO NOT Vote Bush, instead VOTE for Kerry.
What he said is very much what I want to said and hope to happen. Kerry might not different and I thinkk he also quite the same with Bush, but judging from what have Bush done, he didn't deserve to be re-elected. Furthermore, if the Muslim were united and have a big voice, this will sent a great message to who ever elected as President that they cannot simply ignore our opinion and our right.
May we will be united always. That is our strenght. It is very sad to see Muslim fighting against each other. We must be together and united to be strong and to be heard.
That was well said. Muslims, anywhere you are must be brave and speak-up, let the Muslim voice be heard and heard loud and clear. Dr. M has time & again showed that.
The American Muslims and Muslims the world over must not be afraid to make their stand for the benefit of the Ummah. As citizens of a World Superpower, who are going to elect the most powerful person. The American Muslims should heed Dr. M's advise. Do not let people like 'Concerned' make us doubt of our abilities. He worries too much and doubts a muslim's sincerity.
Dr. M is right in advising the American Muslims, as it is his duty and also ours to help and advice fellow muslims wherever they are.
There is no strength in disunity. Unite in your votes, as you, the American Muslims will represent the voice of the Muslim World in the coming Presidential elections. Stand-up and be counted. We, the Muslim community are counting on you.
As for Dr. M, you are just great!
I wonder why all of a sudden now he thinks Bush is bad... when while he was PM he really took the trouble to meet Bush and be seen photographed with him. In fact Mahathir was so happy when Bush won defeating the Democratic candidate in the first place; yet now he is asking Americans to support the Democrats!
My personal opinion is that Mahathir is just trying to put himself in the limelight again, when people in Malaysia/world are already forgetting about him. Just like before... he creates contraversies in order to get people's attention.
I particularly detest the way he signed off as the ex-PM of Malaysia, as if that has any significance at all, but also, implicating us Malaysians. It seems that he wants people to be reminded of it.
he has said that either bush or kerry it's the same but at least if bush is out at least kerry would have some thoughts of what is happening to the muslims that he should not be doing it like what bush did it.
However, as for fearing or mistrusting others because of their beliefs, maybe one should emulate their example to eliminate the mistrust.
Ofcourse there is corruption in goverment in "Muslim" countries since some officials choose to exploit others. However, this has nothing to do with Islam. That is their personal ethics.
Lastly, we can only base our inferences on past experience and thus the comments made so far against Bush by most readers. Kerry may not indeed be the answer for the Muslim community but as Dr.Mahatir stated, in a democratic America they will have a much louder voice.
Few Muslim leaders in the world have the God-given gift of insight and forethought as Dr. Mahatir has. He has used that very insight to make his country, Malayasia, one of the most technologically advanced Muslim nation in the world. That fact alone made me read his piece.
After digesting it, I have no doubt of what Dr. Mahathir says is true. To those Muslims who will not support John F. Kerry in the upcoming election because they say, "There is no difference between Bush and him," I say rely less on your emotions and more on intellect.
Even though we as a collective group endorsed Gov. Bush back in 2000 (a mistake), we didn't know 9/11 would occur. We correctly based our decision on what we knew were to be true at that moment in time. As such, Muslim Americans were instrumental in using that leverage into tipping the balance to Bush. What did that accomplish you say? It showed Americans and the world, that when Muslims vote as a community there voice must be reckoned with. Yes, it was only our 1st election but our record stands 1 for 1.
Now if we sit out this election or vote for Nader (a good man) we lose that leverage of ours. If John Kerry wins; we will soon know if it was because of the Muslim vote (and we'll be batting 2 for 2). However if Bush wins, we at least will have demonstrated our collective anger with his policies. And if he got tough with us, we'd realize that the democratic process is a long and hard one which takes time, effort, sacrifice and above all OUR MONEY!
2. Do not condemn or degrade others beliefs.
3. Do not harass, abuse, or threaten other members.
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out of the four, my beloved former PM has done at least two. i may not have the qualifications to talk about Islam and the world, but such preaching has more impact on the Muslims residing in the states than we ever thought. if bush was re-elected, God knows what he is doing to my fellow muslim brothers and sisters.
i am disgusted
The world and America itself needs a lesson on American Politics.
The president of the United States is selected using an electral collage. These are votes that are SUPPOSED to reflect the vote of the citizens of a particular state. Key word there ... SUPPOSE!!!
The American president's selection is NOT determine by popular vote but by the political power house(s) that runs the nation.
The concept of voting is a once grand idea....not a pratical application of a democracy.
So first:
Every president selected WILL support Isreal and it's policies.... IT'S ABOUT THE OIL ... and as long as there is trouble in the mid-east.... OIL is cheap.
Second:
If Muslims are to be treated fairly....that lessonm needs to begin AT HOME....IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES.
Why would some blond hair, blue eyed christian treat some Muslim fairly when he's treated like a 5th class citizen by this own people????????
Mahathir and the likes of him who are currently ILLEGALLY RULING Muslim nations need to step up to the plate and lead by example.....eventually the rest of the non-Muslim world would get it and start treating muslims with some dignity!
Peace and love...
Peace, health and success.
to Mahathir Muhammad's advice. I will vote against
Bush but I don't need Mahathir to tell me. He used
every means to hold on to power in Malaysia and now
that he is out he poses as a Muslim leader. His
comments will only be used by those who subscribe to
a conspiratorial view of islam and Muslims. American
Muslims do Not need a fatwa or advice from outsiders.
prayers that are directed toward America and it's
people. My husband and I are not Muslims, but we are
so worried about the people in Iraq, and about what is
going on in American politics. We are a good people,
and some of us feel that we are losing control of our
government. Please continue to pray for us, and the
direction of our nation. We are truely all God's people.
Ramadhan kareem.
First of all, this letter is just a cheap propaganda from Tun Mahathir. Anwar, his former deputy has been receiving all kinds of accolade since his release from politically-driven sentencing, and Mahathir needs to show Muslim world that Mahathir is as muslim as Anwar, if not more Muslim. I will personally rebut this so-called muslim world leader in the face if not for my fear of my own life in Malaysia.
American muslim should start to put their own as a presidential candidate instead. Their own muslim party. Show that muslim needs muslim as a leader, not Kerry, not Bush, not any non-muslim. Yes, muslim may not win this election now, but, what is the choice of an alternate candidate to the American would be? Even non-muslim would vote for a muslim, of good character. Just don't nominate someone like Tun Mahathir.
Lastly, thanks to harakahdaily.net for highlighting this mail. Else, I would have missed this cheap attention-grabbing piece of Mahathir.
Keep the good work islamicity.com and harakahdaily.net.
Terrified Savant, Malaysia.
There exist a truth that a change in the presidency of the United States is not likely to alter foreign policy much. The extremeist that have provoked this response by the United States have accomplished their task. It was a no win situation. If the United States fails to respond to the hidden enemy it now faces, a message that the United States is open to attack is assumed. If the United States does respond, obviously innocent people will be injured as has occured, leaving open the ability to paint a very negative image of the US. It is a no win situation for the United States.
In the long run, I think it is important to be educated on exactly what one speaks upon. The United States has always responded resoundingly to any country in need. This is done both by the government and the many charitable non-governmental agencies within the United States. Although not faultless, the people of the United States have a very giving heart and spirit.
As stated in a previous message, two wrongs do not make a right. It is a shame that the extremeist that have pushed for this response by the United States do not represent the vast majority of Muslims internationally. It is foolish for one to think that a change in the office of president will dramatically change policy in the shadow of the tragic attack made agains many innocent people and upon their native soil on that fateful September, 11th.
Both try to destroy Islam.
Both try to have power and money.
The differents is:
we can vote or against Bush in U.S.A., but we have to vote for Mahadthir in Malaysia (no choice, the choice is already given).
Unfortunately, what you're saying here are irrelevant .. because:
- YOU said that we have the power to VOTE, but we don't even have it in Malaysia, because of YOU.
- YOU said that we MUSLIM have to fight for our right, but YOU try to destroy ALL the muslim parties and organisations in Malaysia.
- YOU said about PEACE and TOLERANCY, but you JAIL your OPPONENTs.
I think, all of these are your POLITICAL plans for UNITED NATION top position.
I hope that you'll 'insaf' and 'taubat'. We ALL hope and 'dhoa' that YOU'll realize, POWER and MONEY are nothing. Compared to the benefits of 'Syurga'.
Insaallah, PEACE BE UPON YOU (assalammualaikum).
MALAYSIAN for JUSTICE
It is a fact that Bush adventurism has made the world an unsafe place but in all fairness we must also point out that "extremism by fundamental and extremist religious groups" must also be condemned!
Two wrongs do not make a right! And in all cases the victims are civilians and others who have not played a role in the ensuring brutalities we see the world over!
Let us work towards peace and all things peaceful.
Let us stop been hypocrites saying and doing one thing in the domestic scene and another in the International arena!
May Peace and Goodwill endure!
For me, it is an overall look on a problem that arose in the whole muslim country. When you have power to vote, then vote to change if you feel so. But doesn't mean that it will solve the problem. American Muslims must 'istiqomah' in giving their opinion and seek their rights when voting Bush. Knowing that a same problem will arise with a different leader, it is wiseful to retain Mr Bush because we don't know what Mr Kerry will do if he win the election. Allah s.w.t knows.
They have voluntarily "mentioned" about killing the "Islamic Terrorists even though the challenger did make a contradicting remarks over and over again.[notice the word "Islamic" even though we never label other terrorists with religion... only when it comes to muslims]
Kerry is good at that. So far, he proves nothing to me, except that Bush is a liar. Well, if you really want to know if Kerry is also a liar, defeat Bush and elect Kerry. Otherwise, maintain Bush... at least we know that this guy is out to kill muslims, but steadily getting cornerred by the people into the mounting flames of blame, just like when his father was elected to the presidency and groomed to do.
I want all of you to "fire" Bush... Believe me, I am all for that... But, Kerry seems like the kind of candidate who could come up with the more deceiving excuses. Well, he has maintained that Israel has the right to protect the nation, even though he forgot to mention that 85% of the terrorist nation of Israel was built from invasions, after invasions. I mean, what kind of manipulative lies are those? forgetting the "original sin" after another on such a dramatically staged eventual occupations renewed monthly, or even weekly.
The indirect hit at muslims by saying that Israel has the right to protect herself, is nothing but a misleading excuse for continuing this saga of Bush's: To occupy the Arab World slowly but surely. All Bush did was to come forward and said it without hiding behind that nice face of Kerry's.
The People need to work together to lead it's own charge. Elect a leader of their own, the leader that comes from the people, for the people. Not from some "rich and bold" history.
Who is this character who's now taking the moral high ground when he himself practices "buhtan". Does he not know that "buhtan" (in the Quraan) is likened to eating the meat of a dead Muslim? Is he not too the leader of the nation that endorsed the bombing of Iraq (the first time around)? Did he not too "advised" Blair to kill Sadam, a Muslim brother?
Why now "Muslim brothers and sisters"? I sense a very weak and futile attempt to neutralise Anwar Ibrahim's appeal to the true brotherhood!
Abdull Rahman Jundullah
National Security Advisor) has said today that "Sharon has him (Bush Jr.) around his little finger. I think the president is mesmerized."
Neither Bush nor Kerry are impressive, but Kerry seems preferrable under the circumstances.
It's time to call it a day for Bush administration,give Kerry a chance to prove his words..i agree with Dr. Mahathir,he speaks through his experience,from Reagan to Bush administration he deals with all of them during his 22 years as M'sian PM...don't let the cowboys ruled america for another term,it's about time for American muslim's to act by rejecting Bush as the next President of the United States. May Allah bless all american muslims. Peace
May Allah bless Dr Mahathir(semoga panjang umur)...amin
actually,he is the weapons of mass destruction.
let world peace without bush...
james n .k
Ramadan Kareem..
what you all need to do now is to excersice your right in next coming elections by vote bush out from his office
When you talk about oppressed muslims, you mentioned the names of Iraq,Palestine and Afghanistan,but you did not mention the name of Kashmir? Why is that?
I am NOT for Bush or Kerry as both are really 2 sides of the same coin however, reading this "advice" really takes a lot of nerve, especially coming from someone:
1. Who was charged by his own slavemaster (the U.S. State Dept.) as having intimidated the press, used his police force and courts for arbitrary arrests of political opponents, and his manipulation of electoral procedures to favour his cast of sycophants and lackeys in the ruling party.
2. Has invited Israeli sports teams into his nation and has at various times floated the idea of recognizing Israel (hence lending legitimacy to a criminalized theft of land).
3. Claims to regard and speak for Islam and Muslim values yet was in power in a govt. that ruled from OTHER than Islam, Mr. dictator/er "former president" Could you kindly explain how Surah Ma'ida v. 44-46 relate to your right to rule?
4. Who in May of 2002 had said that his "West bashing" image was misconstrued and boasted of long-standing ties to the U.S. govt. and work in it's service.
My question to you Mahathir, by putting on the garb of Islam -- who are you trying to fool? -- yourself, other Muslims or Allah (swt)?
but as a human and a muslim you only have 1 man to choose between 2 of them...better to give the chance for a man who are not will to kill than giving to the killer..
saya sebagai seorang rakyat malaysia berbangsa melayu islam amat berbangga kerana memepunyai seorang tokoh yg begitu di kenali di seantero dunia iaitu Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamed bekas perdana menteri malaysia. Melalui kenyataan tun saya amat setuju sekali demi kesejahteran umat islam sejagat. Tun Dr Mahathir sebenarnya menjadi sumber inspirasi kepada semua umat islam supaya menjadi lebih berani, agresif dan proaktif dalam menangani isu serantau iaitu isu umat islam yg tertindas oleh bangsa yang memusuhi islam contohnya yg terbaik di Palestine. Di harap Tun Dr Mahathir teruskan perjuangan dengan berani dalam memartabatkan dan demi mengembalikan kedaulatan agama islam di dalam kemajuan ekonomi, sains teknologi dan sosial.
" Tiada kemiskinan yg lebih fakir melainkan kebodohan. Tiada harta yg lebih kaya melainkan akal fikiran. Tiada keyakinan yg lebih hebat melainkan keimanan"
SELAMAT BERJUANG DEMI ISLAM SEJAGAT, TUN DR M
As a muslim I think we should all stand together and take Al-Quran and Hadis as our guidance. Thanks to Tun Dr. Mahathir for his support and advised. I hope there will be more muslim leaders such as Tun Dr. Mahathir still existed in the world. Not only good in speech but really profesional in taking action without thinking the risk for the truth. May Allah bless you and I always give my support to you for better Islamic future.
Why there is so many muslim leaders just shut up their mouth when our Muslims members have been killed by bullets and tank of US & Jewish??? Why they didn't boycott the US economy, where they're the biggest investors in US?? (as told in documentary film - FARENHEIT 9/11) Actually, one bullet made by US is come from the investment of outsiders... Just think the relation of it???
We're as muslims should always be together to show what is the power of ISLAM and Muslims... ALLAHUAKBAR!!!
-Dirwan The UMNO Members-
ACCEPTANCE IN THEIR FAMILY WHILE ARGUING ABOUT MORALS. THEY APPROVE ADULTERY AS WAY OF LIFE EVEN THOUGH IT IS AGAINST ALL THREE RELIGEON. WHAT CAN I SAY THEY ARE ALL HEPOCRITES AND OPPRESSORS. KERRY, WE HAVE TO TRY HIM OUT AND PUT POLITICAL PRESSURE FROM THE BEGINING HE MAY NOT BE THE PERFECT CHOICE BUT UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, HE IS THE NEXT BEST THING. WE MUSLIMS MUST GET INVOLVED IN TO THE POLITICS AT THE GRASS ROOT LEVEL AND PRESSURE THEM POLITICALLY TO LOOK AT OUR CONCERNS.
THERE WE SEE BUSH WHO HAS BROKEN ALL PROMISES OF
RESPECTING OTHER RELIGEONS BUT HIS ACTIONS AND AGENDAS ARE ALL OTHERWISE. HE IS A PRESIDENT FOR
RICH 1%. HE IS NOT A GOOD PRESIDENT FOR AMERICA WHICH WE ALL LOVE AND CHERISH. THANK YOU MR MUHATHIR FOR YOUR BOLD APPROACH.
Think a lot before vote and we have to a candidate who is better than the other for muslims.Not for their issues(gay-antigay, abortion-antiabortion).They can't do a lot.You will find these people in US no matter of the results.May ALLAH bless Muslims and Muslim countries and the resources.
You have said what I always want to say
I remain grateful that Americans have mostly been denied tribute for what America's leaders have done in God's name. My prayer is that this continues to remain the case (Ameen).
May peace be upon you (Ameen).
Fi aman Allah.
Im proud with you Che Det..you are really our hero&fighter. Lets together against Bush. We are not supposed to follow his order&instruction. We are strong, stronger than Bush. Dr.M..semoga Allah merahmati&memberi kesihatan yang sempurna pada mu. Terima Kasih, Malaysia&Malaysian proud with you.
If Bush is reelected, Muslims in the USA will face what the Bosnian Mislims have faced in the 1990s. The 41st and 43rd presidents of the USA have destroyed USA by attacking IRAQ twice. Bush represents Zionist-Christians of USA, UK, and Israel. In the 20th century, the nmankind saw: Germany, Japan, and Italy. In the 21st century, mankind sees: USA, UK, and Israel.
Before talking about 09/11/2001, "Homo Sapiens" need to talk about 09/06/1666, "the Great Fire of London" London, UK. 09/11/2001 = 09/06/1666: Redefining the Anglo-American (Oil-Driven) Civilization.
"Mankind" including MUSLIMS are warned!
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(More or less) translation:
"(We) will not leave a single place on earth without destruction or, putting it's people in severe torment; it is written in the Book" - The Holy Quran.
"(We) will not leave a single house on earth without it's people knowing about ALLAH (SWT) and HIS prophets" - The Holy Quran.
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PEACE
His concise message to the muslims of America will, I hope, be recieved with an open and sincere heart and I hope they will act appropriately.
I am sure I will probably face difficulty getting into US after this but I do believe Dr Mahathir has a higher price to pay for his latest sincere comment. I, none-the-less and at the very least, stand by and support him all the way.
God Bless Dr Mahathir and God bless the Muslim ummah wherever they may be.
As Muslims, we do not have really the choice but to make sure that Bush is not re-elected; otherwise his war against Islam will be all over the world.
As Muslims, we are responsible and I am shocked to see that the Muslims countries are just watching, doing a lot of talk but no action. Is that the meaning of brotherhood in Islam?
Again, make sure that Bush is not re-elected and that Kerry will have to count with all the Muslims of the world.
I breaks my heart to see people dying everyday and Muslims leaders doing nothing about it.
Anyway, Ramadan Kareem and I hope that Muslims of the world understand that they cannot stay on the road side watching the killings of their brothers and sisters.
As salam alaykoum
I beg to be forgiven being done nothing for my muslim brothers, sisters, and mothers of Plestines, Iraq, Chechnya and Kashmir.
Everyone knows "strengthening cruelty never make anyone safe" then why do these muslim leaders realise this.
hoping for safer world for every man on the face of world.
This should never happen again at the expense of Muslims or with any humane beings. But Bush is letting it happen to Muslims and anyone for that matter with an Arabic name. It seems that the Bush administration wants to repeat this horrific crime. Bush's administration is inviting, gathering/collecting Muslims by the thousands and imprisoning them without charge. The justice system states a person is innocent until proven guilty.
He is no different then the Israeli Prime Minster. He is a murder. He should not win the election he should be charged with murder and tried for the murders of thousands of innocent lives and for destroying property namely in Iraq, Afghanistan and aiding Sharon in Israel in the slaughtering of Palatines.
American Muslims should send a strong message to all candidates that American Muslims should be treated as other Americans and Muslims in other parts of the world should not be killed for any price even for the black gold "oil" The justice system states a person is innocent until proven guilty. Here Bush is the judge and juries no justice for anyone who is not with him. He sent young soldiers to their deaths but of course no family members among them. All this killing and he didn't kill the ones he went after. Ben laden and Saddam he must be waiting for the right time. Maybe in his next time around he could use the same tactic to invade yet another country because it would seem that killing of innocent people is part of his Presidential Policies
islam sets a precedent that is aimed at people like you. If you are faced with tow problems and you have no choice but to confront one of them, then you must choose the lesser of the tow evils and Allah is oft forgiving.
Surely killing Muslims is the greatest sin and electing Bush means accepting all his crimes towards the Muslims. now how your heart feels when comparing that to what kerry says about the issues you mention. remember kerry addresses his own people and you, as a Muslim, do not have to agree to that and Allah knows best what is in the hearts.
Allah even allows wthat which is forbidden under extreme cases, as the Quran states regarding eating dead meat if confronted with severe life-threatening hunger.
Under no circumstances a Muslim should vote bush. The man has openly declared war (crusade) against those Muslim countries who oppose his policies.
if you vote Bush, then pray harder that Allah accepts your other deeds, for you will be voting for the devil himself.
Sure we know Kerry is another chip of the old block, but like many have said, at least let them know that if they do not respect muslims, you guys are united and they will not get a second chance. That is a grand united statement Muslims in America can make.
Unfortunately nader has to be the choice but he has no chance so this time you are really voting the despot bush out and that is a grand statement. GO FOR IT.
time has come for our leaders to stop pussyfooting and call the spade by its real name. in Allah's kingdom there is no room for doble standards - that is NEFAQ - there is only the truth and it applies to all HIS creatures.
Ramadhan Mubarak and may Allah accept all your devotions.
As for various foreign voting instructions pertaining to Muslim Americans' service (insha'Allah) in the cause of Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala)...
Ramadan Mubarak!
first dr mahatir is a very strong and well leader. i am very glad that there is somebody who can write such a letter. I agree totaly with him. He express exactly what i feels. We must help each other. tanks dr mahatir
ramadaan kharim to all my brothers and sisters.
without having written an extended essay or book to express the urgency of our position in these elections, Dr. Mahathir's article speaks volumes.
inshaAllah we will be motivated and our actions will be an illustration of forward progressive; for the ummah and the world community to note.
Fi Aman Allah
Four more years under Bush may make an invasion of Iran very plausible. Muslim Americans must rally with one voice and vote to send Bush back to Texas along with those who are really his 'brain'.
In this way at least those who led us into the most catastrophic blunder in American history won't be able to ever do it again. It's really a choice between two lesser 'mistakes'.