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Can Muslims be Americans? They ask...
Can Muslim Americans be loyal to America? She asked. The immediate response of the person to whom the question was addressed was a big no. It didn't surprise many who were present during the conversation as many nodded their heads affirmatively. It was an ordinary discussion in a home setting where friends and relatives had gathered and some of them had raised the issue of loyalty of Muslim Americans. An elected public official from California, who chooses to remain anonymous, was also present at the gathering. She told the audience not to jump to conclusions and that she would present the questions raised at the gathering, to a Muslim who she knew. She forwarded me a list of issues that were brought up at the gathering and asked my input.
I sent her back my response, which she found helpful and assured me that she would do her best to promote the truth and fight ignorance. The issues raised and my response to them are as follows:
Dear Aslam:
Per our conversation I am emailing you a list of issues that were raised during the gathering.
Can a devout Muslim be an American patriot and a loyal citizen? Is 'Muslim American' really an oxymoron?
Some people who were at the gathering, presented the following points to show why Muslim Americans cannot be both at the same time:
Theologically, No - Because their allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia.
Religiously, No - Because no other religion is accepted by their Allah except Islam. Their allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Koran.
Geographically, No - Because their allegiance is to Mecca, to which they turn to in prayer five times a day.
Socially, No - Because their allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews. Plus their men are instructed to marry four women and beat his wife when she disobeys him.
Politically, No - Because they must follow the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teaches annihilation of Israel and destruction of America.
Intellectually, No - Because they cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically, No - Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Koran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot coexist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually, No - Because where as we declare our country to be "one nation under God," and believe God to be loving and kind, their God, Allah, does not allow allegiance to a Christian God and does not promote love and kindness.
Based on the above the majority of the people at the gathering were of the opinion that we should be very suspicious of all Muslims in this country. According to them, Muslims cannot be both 'good Muslims' and 'good Americans' at the same time.
Look forward to your response.
Sincerely,
Dear Jane (Not the real name):
Thank you very much for your email. It is truly unfortunate that we have such grave misconceptions about Islam in our country.
Here is what I believe Muslim Americans feel about the issues that the people have raised.
While we discuss these issues it is important to keep in mind some of our history. Muslims have been part of America for hundreds of years. Some came with Columbus, others came with the Chinese sailor, Zheng He a few decades prior to Columbus. One of the earliest group of Muslims that was introduced to the Americas were among those who were denied all rights that a human being deserves including, freedom, liberty, justice and the right to practice their religion. They were among the Africans who were bought and sold as slaves in this country. Many of them were forcibly converted to Christianity, as is recorded in several slave diaries.
Also among the early Muslims who came to America were those who were expelled from Spain in the sixteenth century along with Jews who found a refuge in this country.
During the later part of the nineteenth century, Muslims came to this country as immigrants to study and establish their professionals careers and since then their numbers have been growing.
Since the founding of the United States, no African American Muslim or Spanish Muslim or immigrant Muslim was ever tried or convicted for treason or for being involved in anti-nation activities. How can anyone claim that Muslims have not been part of this country? They fought during the first and second world wars and they represented the country in several crucial conferences such as the First Parliament of Religions in which Alexander Russell Webb spoke as an American Muslim. His book, Muslim American talks about the Muslim responsibilities in America.
As a response to the issues raised in your private gathering please consider the following as to how the Muslims are part of the American fabric.
Theologically, Yes - Muslims submit to God who is the supreme creator of all that is in the heavens and earth. There is no such concept as 'moon god' in Islam. In fact, the scriptures of Islam make it very clear that Allah (Arabic for God in English, Dios in Spanish, Gott in German and Dieu in French) is the same God that was reveled to Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (Peace be upon them). Muslims are described in the Quran as those who are on the path of all of these prophets. God inspires Muslims to appreciate human diversity in His creation of the multitude of tribes and nations so that they may know and appreciate each other. He exhorts them not to harm others. Loyalty to God does not contradict patriotic feelings. God and nation are not synonym. One is the creator and the other created.
Here are some Quranic references about God that show how God is perceived in Islam:
God is He save whom there is no deity; the One who knows all that is beyond the reach of a created being's perception, as well as that can be witnessed by a creature senses or mind; He, the most Merciful and the Dispenser of love and mercy. (59:22)
God is He save whom there is no deity; the Sovereign Supreme, the Holy, the One with whom all salvation rests, the Giver of faith, the One who determines what is true and false, the Almighty, the One who subdues wrong and restores right, the One to whom all greatness belongs; Utterly remote is God in His limitless Glory from anything to which men may ascribe as share in His divinity! (59:23)
He is the God, the Creator, the Maker, who shapes all forms and appearances! His alone are the attributes of perfection. All that is in the heaven and on the earth Extols His limitless glory; for He is almighty, truly Wise! (59:24)
Say: He is the One God, God the eternal, the uncaused cause of all being. He begets not and neither is He begotten; There is nothing that could be compared to Him. (112:1-4 )
Religiously, Yes - Because the Quran states in verse 2:256 very clearly that there is no compulsion in religion. In fact what was said in your gathering is a fabrication. Here is the verse that you can share with the people at the gathering.
There should be no compulsion in religion. Distinct has now become the right way from the way of error; Hence, He who rejects the power of evil and believes in God, has indeed taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way; For God is all hearing and all knowing. (2:256)
Muslims do not worship five pillars or the Quran. They worship God, the Almighty. Following are the five pillars of Islam that are used as guiding principals:
- Testimony of Faith: There is no deity but God (Allah) and Muhammad is the Messenger (Prophet) of God
- Prayer: Daily at Dawn, Noon, Mid-Afternoon, Sunset and Night. Each prayer takes a few minutes.
- Poor Due (Zakat): An annual payment of 2.5% of a Muslim's wealth which is distributed among the needy. Optional charity is encouraged.
- Fasting: Total abstinence from food and liquid from dawn to sunset during the month of Ramadan.
- Hajj: Annual pilgrimage to Makkah for those who are physically and financially able. (To commemorate the example of Prophet Abraham.)
The Quran identifies humanity as a plural society, like the founding principals of this country that guaranties religious freedom.
If thy Lord had so willed, He could have made Humankind one people: but they will not cease to dispute. (11:118)
Geographically, Yes - Because millions of Muslim migrated to the US of their own free will and contributed to the welfare of this country. The designer of Sears Tower was a Muslim. The engineer who built the New York tunnel was a Muslim. More than 70,000 Muslim doctors toil hard to save lives of average Americans every day and more than 300,000 engineers engage in designing the construction of roads, buildings and strategic institutions.
Makkah has similar significance as the Vatican does for Catholics. Makkah is considered a holy place where the first house of worship to God was made by Prophet Abraham.
Muslims do face towards Makkah for their five daily prescribed prayers but at the same time God reminds believers that ..
It is not righteousness that you turn your faces Towards east or west; but it is righteousness - to believe in God and the Last Day, and the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers; to spend of your substance, out of love for Him, for your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the wayfarer, for those who ask, and for the ransom of slaves; to be steadfast in prayer, and practice regular charity; to fulfill the contracts which ye have made; and to be firm and patient, in pain (or suffering) and adversity, and throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people of truth, the God-Conscious. (Quran 2:177 )
Socially, Yes - The Quran only discourages Muslims from befriending those who fight Muslims because of their religion.
[See Can Muslims be friends with Jews and Christians?]
Muslims are allowed to marry Christians and Jews and who can be better in friendship than a wife. In Islam God restricted polygamy to four wives and encouraged monogamy.
Muslims are reminded to be respectful to women. If there are societies that oppress women, they follow tribal customs and misuse Islam to serve their male chauvinist interests. Verse 4:34 from the Quran reminds Muslim men to .. take full care of women (wife) with the bounties which God has bestowed, more abundantly and with which they spend out of their possession. The righteous women (wife) are the truly devout ones, who guard the intimacy which God has ordained to be guarded. As for those women (Wife), whose ill will, you have reason to fear, admonish them first and then leave them alone in bed and then separate from them. If they pay you heed, do not seek to harm them.
Politically, Yes - Unlike a large number of the American Jews, the allegiance to Israel is not a condition for allegiance to the USA. Moreover, it is the Christian evangelical priests like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell who go beyond the destruction of Israel to say that when Jesus returns, 2/3 of the Jews will be killed and one-third would be converted to Christianity.
Intellectually, Yes - Because the American constitution is not based on Biblical principles. Every Muslim who becomes a citizen of this country first takes an oath of allegiance to the constitution.
Philosophically, Yes - Because Islam ensures that all religions are given freedom. If Democracy does not exist in 17 of 56 Muslim majority countries, that is due to historical and political reasons. Malaysia, Indonesia and Bangladesh are great examples. In fact unlike in our own country that has never elected a female president many Muslim countries have elected female heads of state.
Spiritually, Yes - "One nation under God" resonates strongly among Muslims who consider God to be absolutely Omnipotent and Omnipresent. Among the 99 names of God that one can find in the Quran, several refer to His love, mercy and majesty. The chapters of the Quran start with the phrase "In the name of God most Merciful and Most Companionate" and is a often repeated part of a Muslims daily vocabulary.
Good Muslims and Good Americans, Yes - According to some estimates there are about 6 to 8 million Muslims in this country. Among the list of sex offenders released by the law enforcement recently, not a single one is a Muslim. I went over the names of one hundred thousand sex offenders. Among the drugs addicts who seek rehabilitation, the number of Muslims is less than 2 percent. Among those who are caught as burglars or arsonists or murderers, the number of Muslims is less than one percent. Among those who are domestically violent the number of Muslims is less than one percent. Among those who are convicted of fraud the number of Muslims is less than 2 percent. Among those who are known alcoholics, the number of Muslims is less than one percent. Among those who are drug pushers, the number of Muslims is less than point 2 percent. There is a rape every four minutes in our country. Among those who are convicted of rape, the number of Muslims is less than one percent. Among those who illegally use state welfare system, the number of Muslims is less than one percent. Among those who are involved in Gun violence, the number of Muslims is less than one percent. Among tax evaders, the number of Muslims is less than one percent.
Now please tell me on the basis of this explanation who stands for America and its values? The struggle for truth is far bigger than any other war. Perhaps it is this struggle that must bring us more closer to all people so that we can dispel these common misperceptions.
I appreciate the opportunity to explain Islam and Muslims to the people at the gathering. I hope and pray that we all can find the absolute truth.
Dr. Aslam Abdullah is editor-in-Chief of the Muslim Observer and the director of the Islamic Society of Nevada as well as the director of the Muslim Electorates Council of America.
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STEPHEN SCHWICHOW FROM UNITED STATES OF AMERICA said:
Someone I know from Philadelphia, sent me an email contending that Muslims cannot be good Americans.
I am thankful for this response, which I have sent back to him.
Salaam
I am thankful for this response, which I have sent back to him.
Salaam
2008-09-29
MAX E. LEHNER FROM USA said:
I am against it, as he talks in circles and does not address the list as presented. (Double Talk)
2007-07-18
SAALIM A. ATTA FROM CANADA said:
Beautifully put!Thank you Br.Dr.Aslam Abdullah.I hope this explanation gets a wider coverage.
Ma'as-salaam
Saalim Atta
Canada
Ma'as-salaam
Saalim Atta
Canada
2007-03-22
CHUBBY FROM NIGERIA said:
Alhamdulilahi Robil-halamin!
I really appreciate your good research work,infact it is worthy of publicity worldwide.
As a matter of fact, the entire universe should be educated on what it takes to be a muslim and doctrines of AL-ISLAM.This is not a manmade or fabricated way of worship but ordained by ALMIGHTY ALLAH. Moreover, it is an avenue to propagate AL-ISLAM,"The only Religion insight of ALLAH" JIHAD.
Also to erase the misconception about Muslims and "JIHAD" .The Muslims are the best creature of mankind who does not oppress and never allows oppressions;JIHAD is not about killings but soul winning on to the path of AL-ISLAM.
Maa-salam.
I really appreciate your good research work,infact it is worthy of publicity worldwide.
As a matter of fact, the entire universe should be educated on what it takes to be a muslim and doctrines of AL-ISLAM.This is not a manmade or fabricated way of worship but ordained by ALMIGHTY ALLAH. Moreover, it is an avenue to propagate AL-ISLAM,"The only Religion insight of ALLAH" JIHAD.
Also to erase the misconception about Muslims and "JIHAD" .The Muslims are the best creature of mankind who does not oppress and never allows oppressions;JIHAD is not about killings but soul winning on to the path of AL-ISLAM.
Maa-salam.
2006-09-15
TAREK MOHSEN FROM EGYPT said:
The article describes the pillar of Islam and it's guidelines in a very simple way.
The more I read about how Islam is flourishing in the west everyday; it makes me shiver.
Sometimes many of us as (muslims), we don't know what to do to give a better image about Islam, or how to serve it better..maybe how an organized, rational awareness campaign can be launched to serve this religion better, without any hidden agendas.
I guess the best way to start, is to become a better muslim yourself. Maybe you can be an active member in your school, university, even neighborhood. Maybe you should start enjoying the purity of a muslim soul. As muslims we are invited to make a difference with our lives, make a difference where we are..at this very moment. Imagine if an American muslim, a French one, an Australian one...all tried to make a difference in their homes, workplace, clubs, institutes.. I am sure the image will turn brighter and brighter.
I had a conversation with another muslim friend once, he told me....I don't like to talk to this person...he is not muslim. I told him, you should be keen to talk to this person more than anyone, You know., he doesn't know, imagine if you can help him, guide him, or simply clear a bad thought in his mind about your own religion occasionally. If you don't talk to him..you miss all those chances. A day later, I read a proverb in an English inspirational website that says:" You always miss 100% of the shots you don't take."
Since then, I know that our religion, that gave me the will and inspiration to think alike, is as modern and civilized as any intellect has reached in our present days.
A year ago, I used to think that Islam is going downhill, but today, I am sure Islam is far more served and empowered than maybe 100 or 200 years ago.
Be proud of your Islam, be proud of your choice, live your lives to set the standard. Be a star, stars guide people. Inspire people, and let them look up for you in every aspect of their l
The more I read about how Islam is flourishing in the west everyday; it makes me shiver.
Sometimes many of us as (muslims), we don't know what to do to give a better image about Islam, or how to serve it better..maybe how an organized, rational awareness campaign can be launched to serve this religion better, without any hidden agendas.
I guess the best way to start, is to become a better muslim yourself. Maybe you can be an active member in your school, university, even neighborhood. Maybe you should start enjoying the purity of a muslim soul. As muslims we are invited to make a difference with our lives, make a difference where we are..at this very moment. Imagine if an American muslim, a French one, an Australian one...all tried to make a difference in their homes, workplace, clubs, institutes.. I am sure the image will turn brighter and brighter.
I had a conversation with another muslim friend once, he told me....I don't like to talk to this person...he is not muslim. I told him, you should be keen to talk to this person more than anyone, You know., he doesn't know, imagine if you can help him, guide him, or simply clear a bad thought in his mind about your own religion occasionally. If you don't talk to him..you miss all those chances. A day later, I read a proverb in an English inspirational website that says:" You always miss 100% of the shots you don't take."
Since then, I know that our religion, that gave me the will and inspiration to think alike, is as modern and civilized as any intellect has reached in our present days.
A year ago, I used to think that Islam is going downhill, but today, I am sure Islam is far more served and empowered than maybe 100 or 200 years ago.
Be proud of your Islam, be proud of your choice, live your lives to set the standard. Be a star, stars guide people. Inspire people, and let them look up for you in every aspect of their l
2006-09-07
NUHA FROM UNITED STATES said:
Assalamu alaykum,
This article was truly engaging, and brother Aslam Abdullah is truly amazing, may Allah reward him for his efforts inshAllah!
This article was truly engaging, and brother Aslam Abdullah is truly amazing, may Allah reward him for his efforts inshAllah!
2006-08-30
WAQAR AHMED FROM KUWAIT said:
Well congratulations to author and all others to be part of this, i am very much in favor to all what i read here and i would like to spread it all over.I request others to pass it to more people as they can so that more people could understand the reality and can easily compare both the sides hence being able to make better decisions.Thanks and please be in contact if some one is interested in knowing Islam more, I am not a mulla but i am trying to make people understand the changes already occured and those which we are gonna face as muslims. Fi amaan Allah
2006-08-28
A TEENAGE MUSLIM FROM USA said:
i am a teenagemuslim girl. i have read the the first article it really hurts me. i have always thought that american people are warm and acceptable. unfortunately the wrong idea and thoughts againsts muslims really devastating. from the first article ican tell that americans do not know any thing about islam. if they knew the mercy and grneriosity of islam they may hate bin laden but muslims. islam never allow to attack another religion even though i if dontlike the religion.we muslims have to respct and help non belivers eventhough we can make good friends. we have to help non believers because Allah creates all human beings and other creatures.muslims bound to love the land where are we living.i think i just gave the brief answer that good muslims can be good americans .still if non muslims want to believe that muslims can be good american, i request them to study quran and islam honestly. i can bet after that a human being with brain wil never think against muslims. *we all know that all humen have brains. ***i dont blame if you guys have bad feelings about muslims. you guys may lost your frinds, relatives in 9/11, but i swear you all muslims are not like that. muslims never attack from behind without announcement. islam believes in democracy not autocracy.islam means peace and love.muslims who are attacking from behind or autocratic, they are not muslims.they are just trying to make money and have some power by usinf excuse of being religious muslim. i personally hate bin laden and saddam hossain. because their lifestyle was totally non-islamic. they both had more than 4 wives and autocratic. citizens never had chance to question their authority. if you guys study "hadis" you will know that when hazrat mohaamed(sa) was muslim leader and badshah of 1/3 of world, people had right to question him and prophet mohmmed was bound to answer their question. islam is the first religion who brings respect for women and mercy for poor people. all race,poo-rich are same.
2006-08-28
IBRAHIM ADEBOMI FROM NIGERIA said:
maslim can be americans so far you have your stronge believe in allah
2006-08-27
HAITHAM FROM USA said:
Thankyou for taking the time to put this article together.
2006-08-26
FARZANA FROM BANGLADESH said:
I am very impressed by the author's arguements. I totally agree that some of the practices among muslim communities in different part of the world are more reflective of the local culture rather than our great religion. Especially those concerning women. As a Bangladeshi mulim women I am proud to say Bangladesh is a democratic country where both the prime minister and the leader of the opposition are muslim women elected by the people of muslim majority (>90%).
Something even USA is yet to achieve
So, there is no conflict between democracy and islam or womens' right and islam.
Something even USA is yet to achieve
So, there is no conflict between democracy and islam or womens' right and islam.
2006-08-25
MAZINGER Z FROM UK said:
Nice article. Commentaters like "Adam" and the usual right wing .. with their lies, deception and hours of FOX news malarky. The question isnt whether Muslims can be good Americans, its whther Americans are ready to the human race and stop terrorizing people around the world.
2006-08-24
SOMAYYA FROM UK said:
MashaAllah this was very good.It is very important for us to have a good understanding of our religion so that we can be prepared to answer any questions asked and be able to give the proof also.May Allah reward you for this.
2006-08-23
MAN FROM KOREA said:
Nice attempt to enlighten pple. On loyalty to America: If that means supporting American policies,which involve injustice,oppression of other weak nations,in the name of American national interest; no sane person will say yes to that. That's why some American politicians that have conscience do not support some policies that promote war, double standard and injustice. Are the politicians then not loyal? Islam stands for justice and good Muslims should support and promote justice at all time.
I'm worried that you omitted some wordings in Q4:34. I hope it was not deliberate. In my own Quran I read:"...admonish them(1st),(next) refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful), but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance)..." I don't think we have to be apologetic about Allah's laws. Muslims are allowed to beat their wives lightly (to correct women bad manners) if it is helpful but a Muslim may choose not to beat his wives. The prophet never beat his wives and warned Muslims to refrain from beating their wives. There are good and bad pple in every religion and country. I wonder why non-Muslims in America beat their wives even though it is against the law. Allah knows things better than everybody.
I'm worried that you omitted some wordings in Q4:34. I hope it was not deliberate. In my own Quran I read:"...admonish them(1st),(next) refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful), but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance)..." I don't think we have to be apologetic about Allah's laws. Muslims are allowed to beat their wives lightly (to correct women bad manners) if it is helpful but a Muslim may choose not to beat his wives. The prophet never beat his wives and warned Muslims to refrain from beating their wives. There are good and bad pple in every religion and country. I wonder why non-Muslims in America beat their wives even though it is against the law. Allah knows things better than everybody.
2006-08-22
ANNA FROM USA said:
Everyone who left a post of disagreement should go back to their inner souls and see how loyal they are to their country. They have no courage to die for their nation or beliefs. They are cowards. And before making a ridiculous and cruel statment about the Muslims, why not look at the Catholics who only listen to the Pope. But ofcourse the does not mean that they can't be loyal Americans too (sarcastic). Before making any brainwashed statement about a religion, get off your a** and do some research on it (INCLUDING ISLAM). Otherwise you are going to sound like an ignorant fool.
Another Fact, Voiltaire a frenchmen was one of the people to influence the founding fathers of this nation. Even he, in his book Candide, aknowledged the purity of the Muslim people. So before talking trash about them : DISCOVER WHO THEY REALLY ARE>
this post is under the heading of "against it" so people who disagree can read this and open their minds.
Another Fact, Voiltaire a frenchmen was one of the people to influence the founding fathers of this nation. Even he, in his book Candide, aknowledged the purity of the Muslim people. So before talking trash about them : DISCOVER WHO THEY REALLY ARE>
this post is under the heading of "against it" so people who disagree can read this and open their minds.
2006-08-21
S NAEEM FROM U S A said:
Very thoughtful and heart warming response to the stereotyped concept of Islam, propagated by the western media. May Allah bless Dr. Aslam Abdullah.
2006-08-19
SULEIMAN FROM IRAQ said:
Truth always doesnt need advocacy to win. There is no religion comparable to islam. It's the religion of all prophets of Allah. Quran is the constitution of all muslims all over the world. Tell me, if someone can see the record of muslims in America and still believes that we deserve to be wiped out, is this person sane? Where else in the world does peace prevail more than the middle east?why is calmness only here?
2006-08-19
AYOB VANIA FROM USA said:
Articles like these are an excellent way to dispell the myths of Islam and Muslims in America. The media perpetuates what sells and undermines people based on misconceptions. Would a North American newspaper print this article to disseminate what it means to be a Muslim...in America...as part of the Global Community???
Enough hatered has been spread and in some cases, culture is confused with belief in God. It is my prayer that all of humanity find peace in their hearts and work toward peaceful co-existance with ALL Gods children.
Was-Salaam
Enough hatered has been spread and in some cases, culture is confused with belief in God. It is my prayer that all of humanity find peace in their hearts and work toward peaceful co-existance with ALL Gods children.
Was-Salaam
2006-08-19
SHARIFAH HABIBATULLAH FROM MALAYSIA said:
I think you have done good research. You must continue to gather information and dessiminate well to the public, that Islam is not a god fearing religion. It is a religion whereby god loves his creation and ask us to think deeply and be a good person. I simply think that most westerners are confused between religion and the eastern culture or lifestyle. May be you should highlight that if you are an American, then you should live your life like an American. I hope to get more information about the writings of Dr. Aslam Abdullah and may God bless him for his work. Thank you.
2006-08-19
NASSIYA ALI FROM USA said:
Masha Allah, what a superb article. You hit all the points right on the head,I am so very proud to call my self a muslim and have people like yourself stand up and represent our great religion .This article shows so many different facets of islam that most Americans are either unaware of or are misguided by the media . Thank You, and keep up the great work.
2006-08-19
MALCOLM FROM USA said:
Subhannallah! Thank you very much. This is a most enlightening article. Unfortunately there are so many misconceptions about Islam and Muslums. We are in effect a peaceful people who seriously believe in one God (Allah), and a people who respect our neighbors regardless of their religious beliefs. Few muslums that I know waste their efforts on renouncing someone else's religious beliefs. In fact, they try to set an example that non believers can use to measure the rightiousness of their (muslum) actions and faith. This latter point may serve to explain why so few muslums demonstrate anti-social behaviors as compared to non-believers who reside in the same geographical environments.
2006-08-19
ABDALLAH UMAR MUHAMMAD FROM U.S.A. said:
HOW CAN A MUSLIM WHO CLAIMS TO BE AN UPHOLDER OF TRUTH WITH GOOD CONCIOUS KNOWINGLY SHOW ALLEGIANCE TO AMERICA.AMERICA IS THE MOST WICKED NATION TO EVER EXIST ON THIS PLANET. ONLY THE IGNORANT CORRUPT PERSON CLAIMING TO BE MUSLIM WOULD TRY TO JUSTIFY CITIZENSHIP OF THIS MODERN DAY BABYLON.TO PROMOTE CITIZENSHIP OF THIS NATION MEANS TO ALSO PROMOTE THE NATIONAL HOLIDAYS WITH MANY BEING PAGANISTIC IN ORIGIN. AMERICA IS GUILTY OF SOME OF MOST HEINOUS CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY WITH MANY OF THESE CRIMES BEING COMMITTED AGAINST MUSLIMS. A TRUE MUSLIM IS A SPEAKER OF TRUTH WHEN EVER HE IS NOT IN A POSITION TO UPHOLD TRUTH PHYSICALLY OR FINANCIALLY. THE WEAKEST OF FAITH IS WHEN A MUSLIM SEE INJUSTICE, OPPRESSION, TYRANNY AND IS TO AFRAID TO ADMIT IN HIS OR HER HEART IT IS WRONG. IT IS THE GOVERNMENTS OF EUROPE, AMERICA, THE ZIONIST ENTITY IN PALESTINE THAT ARE THE TRUE AXIS OF EVIL IN THIS WORLD. ANY MUSLIM WHO WILLINGLY PICKS UP ARMS TO FIGHT FOR THE ABOVE MENTIONED GOVERNMENTS IS A FOOL AND LIAR. YOU SO-CALLED WHO OBTAIN LOFTY POSITIONS IN SHAITANS WORLD ARE HYPOCRITES AND YOU USUALLY ARE CLANDESTINELY ON THE C.I.A. PAYROLL. BLACK PEOPLE BORN IN AMERICA WHO ARE MUSLIM HAVE NO REASON TO BE LOYAL TO A NATION THAT HAS NEVER BEEN LOYAL TO THEM. THE FALL OF AMERICA IS IMMINENT. ALLAH SHALL DESTROY THIS EVIL EMPIRE FOR ITS DEEDS. IF ALLAH SUBHANA WA TA ALA HATES THE TYRANT HOW CAN ANYONE JUSTIFY TRYING TO INTEGRATE INTO AMERICAN SOCIETY AND BE GOOD CITIZENS. THAT IS AN OXYMORON.WHEN I LOOK AT THE IMMIGRANT MUSLIMS TRYING TO INTEGRATE IN AMERICA I SEE THE HYPOCRISY OF THEIR BELIEF PARTICULARLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD MERCHANTS WHO SELL PORK, LIQUOR AND OTHER FILTH TO THE IGNORANT POOR DISPOSSESED OF THE BLACK COMMUNITIES. YET THESE SAME MUSLIMS WILL BE AT THE MASJIDS OR ISLAMIC CENTERS ON FRIDAY FOR SALATUL JUMA. ISLAM IS A DIVERSE RELIGION WITH MANY INTERPRETATIONS OF FAITH. YOUR OPINION THAT MUSLIMS CAN BE GOOD CITIZENS OF AMERICA AND IN GOOD CONCIOUS PRACTICE ISLAM IS YOUR OPINION.
2006-08-19
AKRAM KHAN FROM PAKISTAN said:
This atrical is the best artical against that person , Beacuse islam is the religion, in the World, in the Quran Allah said that when truth perish against false hood so false will be destroyed, Islam is the peaceful religion, Islam give best life to men and Women, islam give best security to any nations and any human beings, If we worship one God beleive me in this world , will be no war and nor fighting, all over peace and beautiful life, Quran is the last the testament, and best guidener is the Book Name is Quran, Quran is the best Solution for all humanity, not just for muslims and christanity, for whole mankind,
2006-08-19
MOHAMED FROM SOMALIA said:
Thanks for your article. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, and the end of the "Cold war"; we have being thinking what to do . Finally we had put our mind to divert the people from the truth to tell them that there is no other enemy then Islam. Thanks the lord. People have to learn before they act. No doubt, they will embrace Islam on the spot. All the efforts of the liars will vanish. "Perish the liars".
2006-08-19
KHALIDIBRAHIM FROM MALAYSIA said:
Yes why not. The American Muslims are American citizen. As individual they are supposed to be loyal to the country where they given their citizenship.The are not asked to follow the religion pratices of that country. In Islam for example a person married a conveted muslim from other races,Islam still asked then to respect their the parent in law and relatives even thou they non muslim. In this case the Muslim should under stand more of the Islamic principles regarding to relationship with non Islamic. During the life of the Prophet SAW and Caliphs priod Islam gain momentum not because war and fightings but because the good examples given the Prohet and 4 shabats to the world at that time. Islam means peace, we are the followers should set a good examples to world. Allah The Great and Magneficent do the rest. Wasslam
2006-08-19
RAY LICUANAN FROM PHILIPPINES said:
I always read these articles to make a better understanding of my muslim brothers (the southern part of my country is mostly Allah's faithful).
My request is: Can you put up a page or twoand put a LINK from the top menu: ISLAM FOR IDIOTS since I always want to read the Koran by parts like the Bible. I do not have tim e always, but if I do, I want it to be just one CLICK away.
Kudos to the good doctor who wrote the point-by-point response of a good mulims american oxymoron mythos debunking. Hopefully more people, not just americans, will know what my muslim brothers believe in, and will fight for.
May your days be filled with glory of God,
RAY LICUANAN
My request is: Can you put up a page or twoand put a LINK from the top menu: ISLAM FOR IDIOTS since I always want to read the Koran by parts like the Bible. I do not have tim e always, but if I do, I want it to be just one CLICK away.
Kudos to the good doctor who wrote the point-by-point response of a good mulims american oxymoron mythos debunking. Hopefully more people, not just americans, will know what my muslim brothers believe in, and will fight for.
May your days be filled with glory of God,
RAY LICUANAN
2006-08-19
SWDR FROM USA said:
There is a reason why islam is the fasting growing religion. By the way people in israel are becoming muslims. For those who don't believe it. Try a google. The truth shall prevail over all. Islam is the truth. Those who deny it .. make excuses to serve their own purpose. They don't see the truth and that's because god has not invited them to islam. How unfortunate! They might as well go get drunk and pass out. It's the same thing.
2006-08-18
ADAM FROM USA said:
It seems to me, all you have to do is read the comments left by muslims about this article, and you can see that they will never be an actual part of the american society. They must be blinded by the .. teaching their religion. I think islam is like a scourge on the face of the planet and should be wiped clean. Think of how peaceful the planet would be without muslims. Say what you want about the media,propaganda and ignorance.....then look at who's stiring up all the .. in this world. And for the record Hamayun Ahmadzai . Africans sold africans into slavery. whitey didn't head over to africa and round them up. It's funny how muslims fanatics attack my country, then say the problem is with the people living in my country. I think next time there's 1000000000 muslims marching to meca we should fly over help the worlds over population. Because the muslim faith has blinded it's own people to humanity. Look in Iraq where islamic extemists blow themselves up to kill other muslims. look in Afaganistan where the taliban oppresed the people living there. Animals. they live and treat others like animals...even worse. I would never treat an animal that bad. I welcome the day when Isreal no longer holds back for concern of how the world perceives them and starts wiping the muslims from the face of the earth..I may even join the isreali army if they'll let me. And My God have mercy on my enimies...because I will not !!!
2006-08-16
SABA FROM USA said:
Very well said. I am relieved to read some truth somewhere nowadays in a time of utter ignorance and hatred. Stupidity and ignorance seem to be spreading and the imagination of the human mind has exceeded its limits. I am glad that you are helping to correct this misconception and blatant attack on Muslims and Islam. Islam and Muslims are the most compatible to the original American ideals and morals than any other peoples but sadly Americans and others are influenced too much by the biased media and are too consumed in their material world to know otherwise, but that is still no excuse for them. Thank you very much for correcting this wrong and for using the best source, the Quran, to prove otherwise.
2006-08-16
ZINEDINE FROM MOROCCCO said:
Salaamu alaikum,
If there are still some neurons in the brain of Sorry to say he may probably understand this. Who is more respectful of Christians, the Muslims of Lebanon including Hezbollah that care about Christians and protected them from Zionist Jews that attacked them or the Christian Zionists of America such as John Haggee and Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell that supported Israel in killing them along with the Muslims?
If there are still some neurons in the brain of Sorry to say he may probably understand this. Who is more respectful of Christians, the Muslims of Lebanon including Hezbollah that care about Christians and protected them from Zionist Jews that attacked them or the Christian Zionists of America such as John Haggee and Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell that supported Israel in killing them along with the Muslims?
2006-08-16
ZINEDINE FROM MOROCCO said:
Salaamu alaikum,
HA made a very good point there...if there was a Nurenberg tribunal for the war criminals that holocausted innocent Jews there should be a Berlin one to presecute the war criminals among the Jews that served in the US Army and killed 2000 German POW's. There should 've been one in Hiroshima and Nakazaki for war criminals such as T Harry Truman and Dwight Einshauer. another one in Ho shi min city for war criminal Richard Nixon & one for blood lover, Bible freak Ronald Reagan in Cuba and Panama. One for George Bush senior in Panama and Iraq. There is should be more than one in Afghanistan, Iraq & Lebanon for the greatest war of all times George W Bush and his theocratic government.
Say sorry you are in a sorry state of affair...can't you see that George Bush goes against your country's constitution by mixing state with religion.
Can't you see that Israel a country that does not even have or respect boundaries a state that does not even have a written constitution as well as your country leaders are engaged with all they have in more than just hate propaganda but mass murder of Muslims everywhere. Yes some Muslims preach hate of Christians and Jews but your leaders are not just expressing anger but performing war crimes and genocides all over the world. You seem to be proud of your leaders crimes & your countries disgusting historical records. Muslims don't hate the Christians and the Jews; they hate criminals and their supporters like you. You are neither a christian nor a Jew. Those so called Christians and Jews that are part of the war on Islam and Muslims but truly are Zionists will not be recognised as Jews and will not be seen as Christians by Moses and Jesus (pbut). They will be seen as disgusting beasts that belong to Hell.
HA made a very good point there...if there was a Nurenberg tribunal for the war criminals that holocausted innocent Jews there should be a Berlin one to presecute the war criminals among the Jews that served in the US Army and killed 2000 German POW's. There should 've been one in Hiroshima and Nakazaki for war criminals such as T Harry Truman and Dwight Einshauer. another one in Ho shi min city for war criminal Richard Nixon & one for blood lover, Bible freak Ronald Reagan in Cuba and Panama. One for George Bush senior in Panama and Iraq. There is should be more than one in Afghanistan, Iraq & Lebanon for the greatest war of all times George W Bush and his theocratic government.
Say sorry you are in a sorry state of affair...can't you see that George Bush goes against your country's constitution by mixing state with religion.
Can't you see that Israel a country that does not even have or respect boundaries a state that does not even have a written constitution as well as your country leaders are engaged with all they have in more than just hate propaganda but mass murder of Muslims everywhere. Yes some Muslims preach hate of Christians and Jews but your leaders are not just expressing anger but performing war crimes and genocides all over the world. You seem to be proud of your leaders crimes & your countries disgusting historical records. Muslims don't hate the Christians and the Jews; they hate criminals and their supporters like you. You are neither a christian nor a Jew. Those so called Christians and Jews that are part of the war on Islam and Muslims but truly are Zionists will not be recognised as Jews and will not be seen as Christians by Moses and Jesus (pbut). They will be seen as disgusting beasts that belong to Hell.
2006-08-16
MAHAM FROM USA said:
An Awesome article. Very well said alhamdolliah!
2006-08-15
GINA FROM USA said:
This comment is to Ref: 39518, Ref: 39483 and,Ref: 39505. That sounds all fine and dandy how you have made our beautiful USA sound. I am American and I love my country but what I dont like is the misinformation that my people recieve.A governement of the people and for the people is completely wrong. My American people are good people. If my people knew the truth of what really goes on in this world and how our goverenment lies to us and supports aparthide and the killing of innocent people, then my people would rise up and remove the problems from their government. I think everyone who comes here comes for a reason, and if it was so easy to just be an american and accept how people treat you as an american from another country or any race,then there wouldnt be such a problem. People need to try watching news that isnt american news or Reading a paper from another country or 2 or 6 and see how much our goverment lies to us to keep us from over throwing it.
2006-08-15
ZINEDINE FROM MOROCCO said:
Here is the answer Muslims are most of the time are loyal to justice and peace!!!
The Question should 've been Can Zionist Christians and Zionist Jews be loyal to America?
The answer is no they are not, they are loyal to the Jewish lobby which is loyal to no country but Israel!!!
The Question should 've been Can Zionist Christians and Zionist Jews be loyal to America?
The answer is no they are not, they are loyal to the Jewish lobby which is loyal to no country but Israel!!!
2006-08-15
KHADEEJA FROM USA said:
Jazakum Allahu Khayran! Well written response, now our job is getting this information out.
2006-08-14
L. PRYOR FROM USA said:
My view is this, we have all from some time or another moved here to the US to be free. If YOU are serious about calling yourselves Amricans then start behaving as such, if your religion teaches you to hate Jews or Cristians or just people in general then its about time you use what is on your sholders and think about what you are saying. America is for Americans no matter what religion or race. If people dont like it then go back where you came from and leave freedom to those who deserve it by not hiding behind some book that anyone could pick apart. Call me what you will but the facts remain if your a muslim in America you are being watched by freedom loving people and the best government in the world and that is the governemnt of the people and for the people (Americans). you will never here myself or anyone who has any inteligence say there European American or African American, no were just Americans of many different Nationalities. GOD BLESS THE USA
2006-08-14
IMRAN FROM USA said:
Salaam,
My opinion is in reference to 39483. The reason why crime rate is so high in England is not because they are Muslims or Islam teaches us to hate but you have to look at their (English) lifestyle vs. the American lifestyle. They are under much more scrunity and oppression. You can not walk down the street but an officer will come by and ask for your legal documents. Furthermore the poverty level is much higher and so is the unemployment rate. When one has to live under these unconditional terms, it is easy to slip into erroneous ways. A prime example of this would be the MiddleEast and their abandoning the faith. Without justice there can be no peace whether external and/or internal.
My opinion is in reference to 39483. The reason why crime rate is so high in England is not because they are Muslims or Islam teaches us to hate but you have to look at their (English) lifestyle vs. the American lifestyle. They are under much more scrunity and oppression. You can not walk down the street but an officer will come by and ask for your legal documents. Furthermore the poverty level is much higher and so is the unemployment rate. When one has to live under these unconditional terms, it is easy to slip into erroneous ways. A prime example of this would be the MiddleEast and their abandoning the faith. Without justice there can be no peace whether external and/or internal.
2006-08-14
NEYAZ AHMED FROM INDIA said:
Dr. Aslam,
It is a very good article and especially beneficial for those who live in non muslim country every day we face similar questions. Even many of our fellow muslims are confused, I feel your message should communicated to all. Insha Allah it will help in over coming many misconceptions about Islam.
Jaza-ka-Allah Khair
MaaSalaam
It is a very good article and especially beneficial for those who live in non muslim country every day we face similar questions. Even many of our fellow muslims are confused, I feel your message should communicated to all. Insha Allah it will help in over coming many misconceptions about Islam.
Jaza-ka-Allah Khair
MaaSalaam
2006-08-14
BRETT FROM USA said:
I saw this same email circulating and emailed the orginator how false it was. I am not a Muslim, Christian or whatever. I am Human,
and I am just a child of God trying to make it in this screwed up world.
.....
This email just propogates fear and uncertainy for no reason.
I emailed the orginator to try and stop it.
and I am just a child of God trying to make it in this screwed up world.
.....
This email just propogates fear and uncertainy for no reason.
I emailed the orginator to try and stop it.
2006-08-14
HALIM said:
USA HATES MUSLIMS, I WONDER WHY MUSLIM MUST STAY IN USA. THEIR HEARTS ARE LOCKED AND SICK, YOUR EXPLAINATION ARE USELESS AND MEANINGLESS TO THEM.
THEIR MISCONCEPTION OF ISLAM IS PURPOSEFUL AND SERVE AS THEIR PROPAGANDA.
THEIR MISCONCEPTION OF ISLAM IS PURPOSEFUL AND SERVE AS THEIR PROPAGANDA.
2006-08-14
HAMAYUN AHMADZAI FROM USA said:
Can Muslims be Americans? I don't understand the question. If you question is, can Muslims adapt to live in this geographical place of the world? the answer is of course. People can adapt to live anywhere.
But if you question is can Muslims be accepted by the White Europeans who took this land and are now occupying it. The answer is NO Not Ever.
Just think about it, did the Africans they brought over become "Americans"? Did the natives they slaughtered ever become "Americans"?.
Just look at their history. These people do not consider anyone who is not white a human.
I don't ever want to be an American and I don't see why any would want to.
Hamayun
But if you question is can Muslims be accepted by the White Europeans who took this land and are now occupying it. The answer is NO Not Ever.
Just think about it, did the Africans they brought over become "Americans"? Did the natives they slaughtered ever become "Americans"?.
Just look at their history. These people do not consider anyone who is not white a human.
I don't ever want to be an American and I don't see why any would want to.
Hamayun
2006-08-14
BRIGADIR FROM USA said:
I just wish we had more people like Dr Abdullah
TO BE ABLE TO PUT THINGS HOW HE DID IN THIS ERTICLE.ELHAMDULILAH
TO BE ABLE TO PUT THINGS HOW HE DID IN THIS ERTICLE.ELHAMDULILAH
2006-08-14
HALA FROM USA said:
in response to "sorry to say"
u should read more about islam which obviously u know nothing about. it is funny when u see good things (true things) said about this religion, u quickly deny it, because you simply don't want to see the truth.
u should read more about islam which obviously u know nothing about. it is funny when u see good things (true things) said about this religion, u quickly deny it, because you simply don't want to see the truth.
2006-08-13
SORRY TOSAY said:
Thanks Mike for proving the author of this article that he is TOTALLY wrong! All people of Western Civilization take head!
2006-08-13
WAHEED AZEEZ FROM UK said:
May Allah bless Dr Abdullah
2006-08-13
WAHEED AZEEZ FROM UK said:
The response of the writer to this misconception and blackmail of Islam is very consice and comprehensive. May Allah reward Dr Assafi for this act of Jihad. "THE TRUTH HAS ARRIVED AND FALSEHOOD HAS VARNISHED; SURELY FALSEHOOD IS BOUND TO VARNISH"
2006-08-13
BOHARI BIN MASHLI FROM MALAYSIA said:
Fantastic Dr. Aslam. Fight for the truth and the only truth. Do not let fabrications inspired by ignorance and ulterior motive thrive.
2006-08-13
AHMED FROM USA said:
Very beautiful article...
May God give his guidance to those who seek it and preserve his word from those who seek to destroy it.
May God give his guidance to those who seek it and preserve his word from those who seek to destroy it.
2006-08-13
MIKE FROM USA said:
It is not the question of Muslims being Americans. The question should be "Should Muslims submit to the American government and help her when she is indulged in tyranny, corruption, decept, and aggression?
Answer is "NO". Simple and clear.
Slam
Answer is "NO". Simple and clear.
Slam
2006-08-12
SWDR FROM USA said:
Educated americans know this is not the truth but want an excuse to expel muslims. Self serving purpose. Maybe dumb people believe this. But they fall into a trap created by the smart ones. They follow everything they hear, including FOX and CNN, BUSH. They send their kids into the armed forces thinking they are doing good. Instead find out about rapings and murders in cold blood, and then sit in denial.
2006-08-12
MARIAM FROM AFGHANISTAN said:
Thanks and gratitude both to the elected public official for having the courage, wisdom and forethought of seeking information from the source (i.e a practicing muslim) and to Dr. Abdullah for giving a very logical, historically sound and thorough response.
2006-08-12
KAMAL FROM US said:
Why choose to hide the name?
Whenever a muslim is accused, his/her name appears. Why not that of whom criticizes us?
please, avoid hypocrisy !!!
Whenever a muslim is accused, his/her name appears. Why not that of whom criticizes us?
please, avoid hypocrisy !!!
2006-08-12
ABDIFATAH SULEIMAN MUSSE FROM USA said:
asalamu aleykum, I believe every muslim who is living here is good american, for example, I don't agree with goverment on its policies toward muslims and thier worlds, yet I respect them, and they respect me, I see them supporting terror, yet I do not hate them, I sent them very cold emails to the white-house in the past, yet the goverment only came to me and said, our grand fathers left us wisdom and knowlage please don't send this kind of emails to the president, how ever do you want to kill the president , I said no, tell him I love him, do you have any weapon, I said I thought you were following very closelly, I said you know better, I don't have any weapom, how gives you this power, I said allah
following allah and fearing only him, made me better citizen, made me just, made me fair, muslims are the best citizens even if they disgree with you the most, you will find them easy and calm and respectful, and pro life and earth, if they only knew, sometimes the world is not the way you see, everthing is unkown, may allah guide us to the straight path, amiin ya allah
following allah and fearing only him, made me better citizen, made me just, made me fair, muslims are the best citizens even if they disgree with you the most, you will find them easy and calm and respectful, and pro life and earth, if they only knew, sometimes the world is not the way you see, everthing is unkown, may allah guide us to the straight path, amiin ya allah
2006-08-12
SORRY TOSAY said:
Sorry but Jane got it right. Worst yet, if the response of Aslam was ever right, it is unfortunately going in the other direction now. WIth the influance of Saudi money in North Americian and European Mosques hate of Jews and Christians is wide spread and rampant. Just look at Canada where I read in an article that a moderate Muslim had to quit his top level job at the Muslim Council of Canada because he believed in the seperation of church and state, and many other issues that divide Christians and Muslims. He had to quite because of death threats from the Muslim community, and this person had been in this position for many years!
Also don't quote crime rates, because if you go to Europe it is just terrible the percentage of crimes committed by Muslims, including rapes.
The last proof to show that Aslam is wrong is the recent plots that were uncovered in Canada, the US and England. It shows it is the religious teachings of Islam that made these people do what they did.
End of Story.
Also don't quote crime rates, because if you go to Europe it is just terrible the percentage of crimes committed by Muslims, including rapes.
The last proof to show that Aslam is wrong is the recent plots that were uncovered in Canada, the US and England. It shows it is the religious teachings of Islam that made these people do what they did.
End of Story.
2006-08-12
CLEMENT FARHAD SURAJPAL FROM USA said:
Dear Dr. Aslam,
As-salaam-alai-kum,
It is stupendous to think that in this century we still have people who believe that the Muslims pray to a moon God in Arabia. I mean, of all the Gods, a moon God? What next?
Your answer was both precise and informative. Jane should have no problem in presenting Islam with diffferent view!
The Christians need to read Surah Imran to see what reply the Prophet Isa gave Allah when he was asked if he told "the people that he and his mother were Gods?" The Jews should pay attention to Surah Yaseen in which the testimony of an individual who gained Jannat, is stated. I wonder if they would think that the Quran is pure witchcraft? Heavens forbid!
The gross misconceptions of such people accompanied by pastors who advocate anti-muslim propaganda, fuels the hatred for the religion of Islam! Unfortunately, it may cost them their souls!
The Quran did not only come to the Believers. It came to the entire mankind. The Muslims choose to beleive!
Thank you for such a wonderful reply!
May Allah forgive us all.
Jazakamullah khairan,
Clement
As-salaam-alai-kum,
It is stupendous to think that in this century we still have people who believe that the Muslims pray to a moon God in Arabia. I mean, of all the Gods, a moon God? What next?
Your answer was both precise and informative. Jane should have no problem in presenting Islam with diffferent view!
The Christians need to read Surah Imran to see what reply the Prophet Isa gave Allah when he was asked if he told "the people that he and his mother were Gods?" The Jews should pay attention to Surah Yaseen in which the testimony of an individual who gained Jannat, is stated. I wonder if they would think that the Quran is pure witchcraft? Heavens forbid!
The gross misconceptions of such people accompanied by pastors who advocate anti-muslim propaganda, fuels the hatred for the religion of Islam! Unfortunately, it may cost them their souls!
The Quran did not only come to the Believers. It came to the entire mankind. The Muslims choose to beleive!
Thank you for such a wonderful reply!
May Allah forgive us all.
Jazakamullah khairan,
Clement
2006-08-12
H.A. FROM YATHRIB said:
Oh boy! What a gathering!!!
I would NOT blame the people at the gathering. I would blame the "civilized fluid" aka booze for their misconceptions.
The real question should be WHEN WOULD Americans give up the Civilized fluid?
How can you NOT give the fluid even when your VICE president shoots one of his best friends in broad day light while quail hunting under the influence of the civilized fluid.
The vice president thought his friend was a bird.
I would NOT blame the people at the gathering. I would blame the "civilized fluid" aka booze for their misconceptions.
The real question should be WHEN WOULD Americans give up the Civilized fluid?
How can you NOT give the fluid even when your VICE president shoots one of his best friends in broad day light while quail hunting under the influence of the civilized fluid.
The vice president thought his friend was a bird.
2006-08-11
