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    Posted: 19 April 2006 at 7:22am

Muslims say it is Muhammad.  Christians say it is the Holy Spirit of God.

On what basis do you make their claim?

 
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The biblical interpretation of the Paraclete (Comforter) predates Muhammad.  I don't think I've ever heard a Muslim refer to Muhammad as the biblical Comforter.
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Originally posted by DavidC DavidC wrote:

The biblical interpretation of the Paraclete (Comforter) predates Muhammad.  I don't think I've ever heard a Muslim refer to Muhammad as the biblical Comforter.

As far as I have been told, all Muslims believe that Muhammad is the Comforter.  They say that Jesus prophecized the coming of Muhammad in Jesus' Gospel and this is it.
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I'm not even sure what you mean by the Comforter. I have never heard the Prophet Mohammed described in this manner.

Muslims do not infer any divinity on the Prophets. The only distinction between the Prophet Mohammed and the other Prophets is that he was the last Prophet.

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If we look at the Christian view, the Holy Spirit filled up Jesus. Now Jesus mentioned that if he did not go the Comforter would not come.

Jesus had to make way for the Comforter. The Comforter could not have been the Holy Spirit.

If the Holy Spirit were to come, Jesus would have said so clearly. He did not. The Comforter had to be some man, as is evident from the biblical text.

Only Muhammad fits that role well. Any objections?

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Originally posted by bmzsp bmzsp wrote:

If we look at the Christian view, the Holy Spirit filled up Jesus.

Filled up Jesus?  What do you mean?  Jesus was annointed by the Holy Spirit of God.

Now Jesus mentioned that if he did not go the Comforter would not come.

Yes, Jesus is the first Comforter.  When Jesus was with his disciples, there was no need for another Comforter, but Jesus was going to go away and after he left, the disciples needed another Comforter and God sent his Holy Spirit as that Comforter.

Jesus had to make way for the Comforter. The Comforter could not have been the Holy Spirit.

I don't follow.  See above.

If the Holy Spirit were to come, Jesus would have said so clearly. He did not. The Comforter had to be some man, as is evident from the biblical text.

Jesus said it clearly.  Have you ever heard of the Pentacost?  The Comforter was not a man; how could a man indwell Jesus' disciples--literally?

Only Muhammad fits that role well. Any objections?

Muhammad could not fit the role.  Remember who Jesus was speaking to when he announced the coming of the Comforter; his disciples.  He told his disciples that they knew the Comforter; Jesus' disciples did not know Muhammad.

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bmz - the Lord Jesus clearly said the comforter was the Holy Spirit - see john 14: 16, 17 (which also indicates that he cannot be seen, i never heard anyone say muhammad was invisible) - also john 14: 26 - "the comforter, which is the Holy Ghost"
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Muhammad could not fit the role. Remember who Jesus was speaking to when he announced the coming of the Comforter; his disciples. He told his disciples that they knew the Comforter; Jesus' disciples did not know Muhammad.


So If the disciples knew him then he must be long dead because they are dead too, therefore there will be no comforter.
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