Questions about Western European Muslims

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   Maybe the Nationality doesn't matter so much compared to just the Religion. If I were to specify I'd like to know more about the Bosniak culture of Muslims.

I know they are generally widespread Sunni, so I assume it's posible that if I've picked the wrong forum for my questions they can still be answered.

I'm mainly curious about Dating, and marriage outside of the Religion. I know neither are accepted. So I guess I'm just curious about the ramifications. I've read about honor killings, and I know that it is a cultural thing and not a Religious one. So any information on this would be appriciate.

I guess if it will make it easier. I've pretty much fallen in love with a Bosnia Muslim girl born in yugoslavia but who has lived in America since she was three. I know she's muslim and she says she has a huge respect for her Religion, but she has dated before (granted other Muslims) even though I've heard thats agianst the Religion. As well as she doesn't wear the hooded scarf most Muslim women wear. She feels the same way I do, it's just I'm worried about her family who definately wouldn't accept me. She's told me she was beaten alot growing up so I'm worried about what might happen to her.

I'd also like to know about converting. I don't really have a religion, i have beliefs, but I'd just like to know some basics i guess. If i did convert, would a muslim family see me as a normal muslim? Can i even convert?

Thanks for any help that is given   

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Curious Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Starter Joined: 30 December 2006 Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote Curious Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Questions about Western European Muslims Posted: 30 December 2006 at 10:31pm
	Maybe the Nationality doesn't matter so much compared to just the Religion. If I were to specify I'd like to know more about the Bosniak culture of Muslims. I know they are generally widespread Sunni, so I assume it's posible that if I've picked the wrong forum for my questions they can still be answered. I'm mainly curious about Dating, and marriage outside of the Religion. I know neither are accepted. So I guess I'm just curious about the ramifications. I've read about honor killings, and I know that it is a cultural thing and not a Religious one. So any information on this would be appriciate. I guess if it will make it easier. I've pretty much fallen in love with a Bosnia Muslim girl born in yugoslavia but who has lived in America since she was three. I know she's muslim and she says she has a huge respect for her Religion, but she has dated before (granted other Muslims) even though I've heard thats agianst the Religion. As well as she doesn't wear the hooded scarf most Muslim women wear. She feels the same way I do, it's just I'm worried about her family who definately wouldn't accept me. She's told me she was beaten alot growing up so I'm worried about what might happen to her. I'd also like to know about converting. I don't really have a religion, i have beliefs, but I'd just like to know some basics i guess. If i did convert, would a muslim family see me as a normal muslim? Can i even convert? Thanks for any help that is given

Arab Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 15 December 2006 Location: Kuwait Status: Offline Points: 256	Post Options Post Reply Quote Arab Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 December 2006 at 10:43pm
	Yes you would be viewed as a normal Muslim. Yes of course you can convert, anybody can convert to Islam. Islam is a universal relegion, not only for bosnians, arabs, jews, or any group. Basics are: - Believe in God and associate no partners with him. (no son no daughter no trinity) He is one, far exhalted, and very merciful. - Believe in His messenges. Abraham, Moses, Jesus Christ, Mohammed, peace be upon them, and of course the rest of the prophets. Muslims believe in Jesus as a prophet not as Gods son. Muslims believe that on judgment day you would be judged by what you did, by your deeds, and your deeds only. I advice you read the Quran brother, its very nice. Heres a site to introduce you to Islam hopefully it would be helpfull to you: www.islam-guide.com

Arab Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 15 December 2006 Location: Kuwait Status: Offline Points: 256	Post Options Post Reply Quote Arab Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 December 2006 at 10:45pm
	Islam is a very wonderful relegion. A smile is considered a type of charity. A good word, a compliment, is also a type of charity. It stresses the idea of high exhalted manners and ethics and generosity. You also have to be very good to your parents.

Arab Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 15 December 2006 Location: Kuwait Status: Offline Points: 256	Post Options Post Reply Quote Arab Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 December 2006 at 2:04am
	here is also an AMAZING site made by american Muslims, converts, they have many useful things in the site and a chat place where Muslim scholars are there most the time so they can answer many of your questions if not all, inshAllah (God willinng) http://islamtomorrow.com/ And here are some of the scientific miracles in the Glorius Quran: http://islamyesterday.com/science/ As for your race, God tells us in the Quran that: "O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other. Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well-acquainted. (The Noble Quran, 49:13) So race is no problem at all in Islam. Islam believes in universal brotherhood =) Edited by Arab

Curious Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Starter Joined: 30 December 2006 Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote Curious Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 December 2006 at 12:19pm
	I really appriciate this, thanks for the help.

Arab Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 15 December 2006 Location: Kuwait Status: Offline Points: 256	Post Options Post Reply Quote Arab Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 December 2006 at 1:09pm
	Anytime bro

superme Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 03 April 2006 Location: Cocos (Keeling) Islands Status: Offline Points: 463	Post Options Post Reply Quote superme Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 December 2006 at 10:31pm
	Few years ago my divorced sister met a man of my age who want to marry her, she asked me for what to do. I knew for a fact that she likes him and he likes her. The problem was - he was not muslim, a spanish. I spoke to him about her difficulty for marrying a non muslim. But thank God he had such understanding - he took the shahadah on his own effort. Now he is such an enthusiastic muslim that I even try to slow him down a bit. He is in the state in persuading her to go hajj next year while his wife is still worrying about their works. He said: "we got the money for hajj, let us go hajj and think about work later". So brother, those who pray together - stay together, I think.

on1on5 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 06 January 2007 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 72	Post Options Post Reply Quote on1on5 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 January 2007 at 11:02am
	This became a brotherhood party but as a sister I have a few contributions. Bosniak Muslims are noble, beautiful hearted but very much injured people who faced many tortures and genocide in their history. Effects of European culture in a balanced combination with Islam is observed in their way of living. You are very lucky that Allah opened a door to you through this lovely person. One of the names of Allah is Vedud that is the source of love. I'm sure that her family will be very enthusiastic to accept you to their company. Two notes: I dont know if it is ever discussed before but I hope the misnomer about Allah "he" don't confuse you. Sexuality cannot be attributed to Allah by any means. Allah is higher and higher than any that human mind can shape. And second; cultural affairs and Islam may sometimes be mixed up but you should know that Islam is not against two people talking to each other to understand each other better and to decide if they will continue their lives together under the common roof of a lovely family-if it is what you mean by dating. I hope you will find the right way to Allah who is much closer to you than your main artery in the neck-as it is said in Kuran -and come together with the Bosniak girl. selam...