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nadeem_aus
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Posted: 29 July 2005 at 9:31pm |
good advice Henna!
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Henna
Senior Member Joined: 28 July 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 146 |
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Brother namesdontmatter,
If the sister's family is near to you, maybe you can go to meet them. You can introduce yourself and you can talk to them. Sometimes talking face to face can solve some communication problems. Our religion doesn't forbid a woman marry without her father's permission however if you and sister keep try to communicate with her parents and try to get permission it would be wonderfull inshallah:) |
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semar
Senior Member Male Islam Joined: 11 March 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1830 |
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Salam, Like Nausheen sugestion becasue she is widow, there is nothing debatable, so go for it. And congratulations, may Allah give you happiness and bless your marriage. |
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Salam/Peace,
Semar "We are people who do not eat until we are hungry and do not eat to our fill." (Prophet Muhammad PBUH) "1/3 of your stomach for food, 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air" |
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Meedo
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salam brother , Inshallah you proceed with the marriage in The masjid . Islam isnt a religion of hardship. The Opinion that she can marry by her self with a representative of the Muslim community as her Wali ( Guardian) Is correct inshallah , i have heared it before. Just make the marriage in Public and commit to her inshallah. May Allah grand you Happiness togeather . salam aleikum |
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Ali Zaki
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Salam alakum to the brother (namesdontmatter), I am also a revert (convert), and I wanted to give you an answer and a general comment to your question. FIRST- In matter of Fiqh (Islamic Jurisprudence), it is very important to NOT depend on the advice of fellow Muslims (even if they are knowledgable. These matter require a specialist (i.e. a qualified Alim) There are two major schools of Islamic jurisprudence, Sunni and Shia. One this issues (i.e. permanent marriage), there is not alot of disagreement. My Sunni brothers (and sisters) can correct me if I'm incorrect. Here is the Fatwa (ruling) of Ayatollah Ali Al-Sistani, a respected Islamic Scholar (and now world famous, since the Iraq invastion) on this issue from his website. Here is the direct link to this section; http://www.sistani.org/html/eng/main/index.php?page=3&la ng=ara&part=1 HERE IS THE RELEVANT FATWA "2386. In the following situations, it will not be necessary for a woman to seek the permission of her father or paternal grandfather, before getting married:
Marriage is made easy in Islam, and is a mercy from Allah (s.w.a) for us. Salam
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kim!
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Blimey - doesn't a woman EVER get to help determine her own future? Doesn't she EVER get a say? Mind you, if I were him, I might start having some doubts just because women often turn into their own mothers. However, namesdon'tmatter - I wish you luck. You are trying to do the right thing and they are not. DO the parent live in the US as well, or are they in Egypt? I reckon you should take Nausheen's advice. Kim... |
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aus
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Peace to all. Nausheen,i would like to say that my conviction was same as yours,but then i came a scholar who told me that whichever way,the lady must seek permission from the father/brother,uncle or any male in that line,whether she is a virgin or not. So its better for our brother here to find out more from the imam as you said before he does anything.What i mean is that theres ikhtilaf concerning the consent of the non-virgin woman in regards to marriage. peace Aus |
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Nausheen
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Auzubillahi minash shaitan ir rajeem, Bismillah ir rahman ir rahim, Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullah, Congratulations on accepting Islam as your way of life, alhamdulillah. I remember your first few inputs a couple of months ago, and I am pleased to know that you have entered into the folds of Islam. In Islam, a woman must take permission of her father to get married if she is a maiden (ie a virgin). One who is a divorcee, can choose and marry by her own will, even without the permission of her parents. What I mean is, in case of the lady you propose to marry, if you go ahead and complete the formalities, the marriage is valid as per islamic principles. The consent of parnets is good for keeping the family ties, and upholding their wishes, as there is great reward in doing so, but technically there is no hitch in your marriage with her, even if you do not receive a consent. She should have a wali, and this role can be fulfilled by the Imam of the mosque, where you decide to marry. Perhaps you would want to contact an Imam, to know all the details of the legal proceedings in this matter. Wish you all the best and a happy future in your marriage insha allah. Maa salaama, Nausheen |
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