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    Posted: 27 March 2008 at 2:20pm
Originally posted by martha martha wrote:

Peacemaker and Alwardah,

Thankyou for your replies so far. And I have to ask questions in IC as this is my main source of understanding Islam. To some I am probably asking strange questions.

In Islam these days, is there one man(scholar) that is more important than others? And why dont we have one main person ie like the Catholics have the Pope? I know that after the Prophet Muhammed (pbuH) that we need no other messenger, but having a main scholar to lead the muslims is necessary isnt it?

Excuse the question if it sounds a bit odd

 Martha, your question seems to be genuine. There is a need for unity amongst Muslims. But it is not there. There is no unity in any religion Judaism, christianity and Islam. The christians have a pope for one sect. The Protestants don't like him. Some of them abuse him terribly.

 Same is the case with Muslims. They do not have a leader (Imam). There are some sects amongst Muslims ( The Bohris and Agha Khanis etc) who do have an Imam. But most others, i.e. the majority group are on their own without a single leader. That is why they are suffering.

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Originally posted by believer believer wrote:

Just because we can not understand does not mean GOD is hidden!!

This may speaks for you,  but I as a Mulsim don't believe that, I completely understand God and He is not hidden anywhere as you claim on others behalf.

In fact as I have said, he is closer to you and me then ourselves.

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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62

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No honeto, at first it seemed that this was the case, then not, then when the Pope mentioned as example of one leader for Christianity and possibly one for Islam.  LOL!!

A person can not generalize and GOD can not be put into a simple explanation that man can understand or even begin to agree with.

Just because we can not understand does not mean GOD is hidden!!

John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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Originally posted by believer believer wrote:

Sad that Allah is hidden from the common person.

Hi believer,

Allah, or God is not a physical being in Islam to be visible of hidden. Sad that you understand it that way after being around so long. We, Muslims are at peace that He is closer to us than our life line, according to the Quran. The truth is that we know Him and believe in Him and Love Him more than anyone else. This would not be possible if He was "hidden from us the common people" as you say.

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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62

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Surah 2-62 it says "Verily, those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians and Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and does righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear nor shall they grieve."

yes they have nothing to fear

what is it here that is hard to understand

to be JEW CHRISTAIN SABIANS one must believe in one ALLAH and his Prophets

not those KAFFIRS who said ALLAH have one son

even now or in future who ever will believes in one ALLAH he will not commit any SHIRK he too will become recipient of his mercy

but those who know about ISLAM and MUHAMMAD Sallel La Hu Alahi Wa Sallim and still wants to remain in his old belief because of fear and persecution they will be forgiven

but those who rejects knowingly without any reason they will be held accountable



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Originally posted by Israfil Israfil wrote:

I disagree with brother Alwardah and Peacemaker......

Muslims scholars are NOT scientist for one. I spent 6 years of my life studying science (Neuriscience to be exact) and know more about that field than probably 90% of the religious Muslim scholars in the world. In the field of science there is no Muslim scholar. There are Muslims like myself, but none presume to be world famous scholars especially in the field of biochemistry where some of the studies may very well in fact challenge their religious beliefs. It's kind of like an insult to me to say if you can be a religious scholar you can be a scientist, lawyer etc and that is not true. Religious scholarship is not learning about the sciences its a different category.

Assalamu Alaikum,

I just wanted to show how one becomes a scientist in order to relate to how one becomes a scholar. Nowhere was it mentioned in my post that a scholar is a scientist; that was just an example to put forth the understanding of what is a scholar.

Another thing is that I know many Islamic scholars here in Canada and abroad who are also world class scientists.

Let us stick to the topic please.

May Allah guide us all.

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I disagree with brother Alwardah and Peacemaker......

Muslims scholars are NOT scientist for one. I spent 6 years of my life studying science (Neuriscience to be exact) and know more about that field than probably 90% of the religious Muslim scholars in the world. In the field of science there is no Muslim scholar. There are Muslims like myself, but none presume to be world famous scholars especially in the field of biochemistry where some of the studies may very well in fact challenge their religious beliefs. It's kind of like an insult to me to say if you can be a religious scholar you can be a scientist, lawyer etc and that is not true. Religious scholarship is not learning about the sciences its a different category.

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Originally posted by martha martha wrote:

Peacemaker and Alwardah,

Thankyou for your replies so far. And I have to ask questions in IC as this is my main source of understanding Islam. To some I am probably asking strange questions.

In Islam these days, is there one man(scholar) that is more important than others? And why dont we have one main person ie like the Catholics have the Pope? I know that after the Prophet Muhammed (pbuH) that we need no other messenger, but having a main scholar to lead the muslims is necessary isnt it?

Excuse the question if it sounds a bit odd

 

As Salamu Alaikum Sister Martha

Never feel shy to ask questions, that is the only way to learn and there is no just thing as an odd question.

For a long time, IC to me, was a home away from home and a place to learn and share.

I don�t know the correct answer to your question about having such a person as a pope in Islam, but I can guess to avoid corruption. I don�t know much about Christianity either but what I do know is that the Christians follow the teachings of Paul and not Isa (Alayhi Salam).

The differences we see are a Blessing and Mercy from Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala.

I would advise you to concentrate on one thing at a time and take baby steps, make each day special. Sister despite my own views and method of learning I advise you to try and learn from one Imam of the four, you will not get confused.

Sometimes the discussions here are more confusing then helpful.

Insha Allah you will see, as you study things will become clearer and you will be able to put everything in their correct prospective.

May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala guide and keep us on the Siratul-Mustaqeem Ameen!

Wa Alaikum Salam  

 

�Verily your Lord is quick in punishment; yet He is indeed Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful (Surah Al-An�am 6:165)
"Indeed, we belong to Allah and to Him is our return" (Surah Baqarah 2: 155)
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