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owen.grandison
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Quran is more than enough. we as human part of our job is to be reminder so the hadith has more detials about Mohamed PBUH, it tells you what and how he did things, so you remember and do the same now the quran tells you to pray but you find how to pray in Quran because allah thought mohamed how. simple answer for you is this if you follow quran one of the things Quran ask you to do it to follow Mohamed and all Prophets , so hadith will be good for you to Follow the Prophet In the qur'aan 18:110 and 41:6, we read the following: (SAY: I AM BUT A MAN LIKE YOURSELVES, (BUT) THE INSPIRATION HAS COME TO ME, THAT YOUR GOD IS ONE GOD: WHOEVEER EXPECTS TO MEET HIS LORD, LET HIM WORK RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND, IN THE WORSHIP OF HIS LORD, ADMIT NO ONE AS PARTNER. The prophet muhammad made it clear that he was a man like any other and that you should not bind partners with allah. So why do orthodox sunni muslims insist on giving him equal status with allah? Like christians who defied the messiah jesus to the point where now there are those who say he is 'Allah'. Muslims are doing the same thing and it is wrong, according to your doctrine!!! Qur'aan 41:6 "SAY THOU: 'I AM BUT A MAN LIKE YOU: IT IS REVEALED TO ME BY INSPIRATION, THAT YOUR GOD IS ONE GOD: SO STAND TRUE TO HIM, AND ASK FOR HIS FORGIVENESS. AND WOE TO THOSE WHO JOIN GODS WITH GOD." In the following hadiyth extracted from sahih al bukhari by Dr. muhammad muhsin khan the prophet muhammad says that he is a human being and capable of forgetting things. 394. NARRATED 'ABDULLAH: THE PROPHET PRAYED (AND THE SUB NARRATOR IBRAHIM SAID, "I DO NOT KNOW WHETHER HE PRAYED MORE OR LESS THAN USUAL), AND WHEN HE HAD FINISHED THE PRAYERS HE WAS ASKED, "O ALLAH'S MESSENGER! HAS THERE BEEN ANY CHANGE IN THE PRAYERS?" HE SAID, "WHAT IS IT?" THE PEOPLE SAID, "YOU HAVE PRAYED SO MUCH AND SO MUCH." SO THE PROPHET BENT HIS LEGS, FACED THE QIBLA AND PERFORMED TWO PROSTRATIONS (OF SAHU) AND FINISHED HIS PRAYERS WITH TASLIM (BY TURNING HIS FACE TO RIGHT AND LEFT SAYING: 'AS-SALAMU 'ALAIKUM-WRAHMAT-ULLAH'). WHEN HE TURNED HIS FACE TO US HE SAID, "IF THERE HAD BEEN ANYTHING CHANGED IN THE PRAYER, SURELY I WOULD HAVE INFORMED YOU BUT I AM A HUMAN BEING LIKE YOU AND LIABLE TO FORGET LIKE YOU. SO IF I FORGET REMIND ME AND IF ANYONE OF YOU IS DOUBTFUL ABOUT HIS PRAYER, HE SHOULD FOLLOW WHAT HE THINKS TO BE CORRECT AND COMPLETE HIS PRAYER ACCORDINGLY AND FINISH IT AND DO TWO PROSTRATIONS (OF SAHU) Sahih al bukhari |
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honeto
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Thomas-Philip,
let me say this very clearly you are very right that we must forgive each other and be kind to others, that's how you earn the favors of God according to the Quran.
Now let me also be clear. There is no flaws in Submission to God, that is Islam. Nothing will save us from God's wrath if we turn to others in worship, or not direct our worship straight to God.
We can make all kind of alliances and so on, but unless we turn in worship to our Creator alone and turn away from false worship of false gods and intercessors, it will be a witness against us on the day of judgement, its of no avail.
The Quran 6:94 "And behold! ye come to us bare and alone as We created you for the first time: ye have left behind you all (the favours) which We bestowed on you: We see not with you your intercessors whom ye thought to be partners in your affairs: so now all relations between you have been cut off, and your (pet) fancies have left you in the lurch!"
Hasan
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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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thomas-philip
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As a "newbie" to your forum, I have found this discussion thread at times very insightful, yet sadly also needlessly divisive. It is a pity that ALL cannot see what binds us, instead of focusing on what divides us? I believe GOD/Allah/Yahweh/Jehova is patiently waiting for us to finally get that. Fact: we are human; therefore flawed. Our religous texts were written by humans and, therefore flaws exist. What IS important is the basic intentions of HIS word. The 10 commandments spell it out pretty well. Jesus's 11 comandment 'seals the deal' as to what we aLL must do. Muslims, Christians & Jews are NOT to have false gods. We are NOT to treat others harshly, we ARE to forgive others. The bottom line is that all 3 religions have flaws because they are rooted in our flawed humanity. The sooner we really truly practice 'forgiveness', the sooner we will be in God's graces.
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honeto
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Dear friend,
God speaks to us through His word, and He has given us capabilities to lead us into the right direction. However, it depends on us if we listen to what He has said and accpet that offer or refuse it. Each one of us has that chance and choice to make, not that it makes any differance for God rather to the individual. God has always offered His forgiveness to anyone who calls upon Him and seek His Mercy.
Hasan
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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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Mansoor_ali
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Here is thoroughly response 'Does Islam Endorse The Bible?'
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Mansoor_ali
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THE REAL BIBLE: WHO'S GOT IT?
Pagan trintarian christians LIES Regarding the
Different and conflicting variations of "gospels" and "books" that are disagreed upon by the Churches today.
Textual Integrity Of The Bible
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I know for a positive that my path is the true way to GOD, for He has spoken to me and carried me through all things.
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John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. |
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honeto
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Good that you realize that your interpretation of that verse is different in principle then the one found in the source from where it was taken.
I don't think God will hold us accountable for our memory loss,
rather for our mistakes that we make knowingly, and continue to follow that path.
You ask, "Why does Quran say Jesus' name is Isa." Well, I don't know why. But I know that Christians that are Arab and from the Sub-continent use "Issa" for Jesus. And I know that in Spanish, its pronounced as 'Hesoos'. So it must have gone through the same transformation as the word " Jehovah".
Hasan
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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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