It is all full of lies. If these people have left islam, it is very good. They can leave. But they should not leave the use of truth. What they have done was wrong. But let it be so. No harm if they left islam. They were surely unfit for Islam any way.

 The important thing to know now is where they have landed. Did the writer have the courage to tell what faith is he/she following now?  Or they all Hindus now? or christians? Or Jews or Budhists. Or atheists??

If that faith is told then we will judge the mental stage of the apostates.

Bro. Sign Reader, even your poetry is like that of Poga, Why don't you start up writing it ? But yes, kindly don't share it here.

poga:
What do you smoke or chew on?
May be too much chewing of the Bangali bittle leaves, that you have to derail the threads with your Anglicized Bungali poetry!
Who are you trying to impress with this stuff?
You are  in your colonial master's lap and talk about the Kharjites, what balderdash!
Is it the Crab (Lunatic effect from the moon) sign effect that you don't pay attention to the FORUM GUIDELINES?
The forum moderators have tried but to no effect



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I am going to edit my January 21^st post on Moharram  a similar thread for this one!

 

I would disagree with � The celebration of the birthday of the Prophet is one of those "Contemporary Innovations".

It started some around 11^th century Fatimid Egypt and has gone through various versions in different Muslim lands.

But the way the date and calendar being used I would agree that the Muslims involved in this are totally ignorant of basic rules in the say totally ignorant way of doing this occasion; involvement of a bunch Islamic rulers being  part of this notwithstanding!

 

And if I tell you pull your driver�s license how many would read the birthday in Lunar dates, I bet it would be none of you guys! The celebration of birthdays is not unknown amongst the immigrant Muslims� children at least in the west! And none would use Lunar dates cuz it is not part of the recorded birth information.

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Now how can you go along the Prophet�s birth day by a system that doesn�t repeat the same day and conditions on yearly basis but takes 36.5 years to do that! Look at the sample chart below:

And the celebration of his birthday wasn�t done for say for almost four hundred years!

Not that people stopped praying Daroods in salaats in those four centuries! 

 

It hardly phases to the multitude who can't think on their own and will have a party for anything! Folks are getting ready for the Milad party cuz  some select Islamic centers and now even some Halal restaurants have  sent  fliers that  12^th of Rabi ulAwwal is here again and it will be on March 20^th for the Sunnis and 17th of Rabi'-ul-Awwal for
(Shi'a) dates on Solar Year

             Sunni                 Shia

2008    March 20         March 25

2009    March 9           March 14

2010    February 26     March 3

2011    February 15     February 20

2012    February 4       February 9

2013    January 24        January 29

& in 2025    September 4

Do you see the 2025 weather condition of the day went totally opposite from a Spring day to Fall day in 18 years time span.

 All I can say the most numskulls can�t see this cuz the pobres are illiterate without the faculty of seeing things in their proper perspective. This being heliocentric world than the geocentric and the religious people's mindset and the moon dates being every thing. I bet some of them still think the earth is flat. I would love to celebrate his birth day if it was known for certain on the calendar we live our lives by!

Now take the case of Imam Hussain�s martyrdom that happened in the middle of hot summer and you know the Shiit did the memorial a couple of months back  in the middle of  winter! Isn�t that a moronic closed mind that it has to be in Mohrram cuz they only knew the Lunar calendar then! They have turned a day's event into a event like the revelation of Quraan in Ramadan!

For God sake how is it possible to have a self flagellation procession during snow and sleet storm in middle of the winter season at least in northern hemisphere?(Let's take city of Chicago) How can they be such knuckleheads listen all the Majalis and fake  expressions of thirst.  I have seen these immigrants  who are so close minded as are their folks in the subcontinent or ME! And we talk about the Christians!

Conversely the revelation of Quran in lunar month of Ramadan and that month a becoming period of fasting to be universal! It was such superbly fantastic thing to do that it is mind boggling! And I don�t think most Muslims have understood the concept as yet even after their diaspora!

It is such a just system that He gave to the Muslims cuz at the time only Allah being the creator knew how our heliocentric system is designed and how the humans are scattered around the globe contrary to the Catholic church's original teaching that either the earth was flat or the world was geocentric!

This way the Muslims as we see them now living almost in every part of the globe can enjoy the Ramadan under the equalization principle northern hemispheres fast durations with southern hemisphere cuz the lengths of the fast varying according to locations in respective hemispheres in opposite seasons in the prevailing weather conditions!

It is just an amazing setup with most people not realizing this fact! Allah distributes his blessings thru Ramadan month varying by 10 days through all the seasons around the globe and on the average. The Muslims get two rounds of it if the age is averaged around 72 years!
Subahnallah!

IF some one can explain this to a disbeliever it should be enough evidence about the veracity of Islamic faith!

So far the this bidah thing is concerned I think the Muslims after becoming colonized and losing the freedoms and respect we shouldn't make such abig deal out of it! The colonial masters doing one thing or another to degrade our Prophet from the place of honor! Does it really matter having a party to sing few Nasheeds/ naats tell stories about his seerah etc come to think of it!

It about time to do some heavy research and mark it on the calendar! So we don't have to be told every year by a flier for the party.
And stop rotating it through the calendar, it is too confusing a concept for our children that
their birth day comes same time every year and Prophets' moves back by ten days

Is it a case of Cognitive dissonance or Double think which is it? or both

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