In Turkey, Mosque Gets A Woman's Touch

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   Angel-a, don't forget the A....  Dear Angel and I have been confused for years.

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Angela Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 11 July 2005 Status: Offline Points: 2555	Post Options Post Reply Quote Angela Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: In Turkey, Mosque Gets A Woman's Touch Posted: 05 November 2008 at 11:20am
	Angel-a, don't forget the A.... Dear Angel and I have been confused for years.

Gulliver Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 12 September 2008 Status: Offline Points: 621	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gulliver Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 November 2008 at 5:09am
	Sorry to burst your bubble Angel........ but..... I can do anything better than you.... YES I CAN ;-) lol

Angela Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 11 July 2005 Status: Offline Points: 2555	Post Options Post Reply Quote Angela Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 November 2008 at 4:54am
	Gorgeous Mosque! Suddenly, I have that song... "Anything you can do I can do better..." stuck in my mind. Eh, Whisper...

Gulliver Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 12 September 2008 Status: Offline Points: 621	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gulliver Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 October 2008 at 6:59am
	Interesting Whisper. Christian denominations themselves could take this advice too to heart. I think the messages of prophets etc all become victim to the power mad and hierarchs of all faiths and traditions.

Whisper Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Male Joined: 25 July 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4752	Post Options Post Reply Quote Whisper Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 October 2008 at 5:57am
	Why don't good Muslims and good Christians band together and discover the realities and truths of both religions in the earlier days. Till the 12th Century Islam was considered an off shoot of the Christian faith and, this might shock some Muslims, but Haroon er Rasheed and St John were drinking companions who sat up and discussed mutual matters for hors and quite regularly! Plus, the Muslims, the Christians and the Judeos (jewish people) not just happily lived together, but ran, managed and governed el-Andalus for over700 years and the Osmania Turkiye for over 600 years - IN ABSOLUTE HARMONY. The crusades were in fact raiding parties carried out by the starving Hang Low Sexnon scoundrels for the purpose of stocking up their own coffers - where else could these hooligans go? All rich life existed just in that belt. Even the recent rifts between the Abrahimic faiths are manufactured, initially, for the British agenda in that part of the world - like that warmonger Churchill used to dream of having, say, hundreds of thousands of Jews doing our bidding in that quarter! And then, of course, the Amrekanos took over from their cousins from this side of the Atlantic. Their empire was based on their financial hold of the globe. It has fallen badly and is still falling of the camel's back. And, next year when the US defaults, the global balance will shift away from these faithless scoundrels.

Gulliver Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 12 September 2008 Status: Offline Points: 621	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gulliver Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 October 2008 at 4:43am
	This is off topic. I was watching the News last night about the children in an African country. That pig Mugabe (?) How in God's holy name that animal has such power. Was in the hospitals, and the little children dying from malnutrition and starvation. One little four year old girl - looked about two she was so emaciated. And she was having bouts of diarrhoea while sitting on her mother's knees, and the mother trying to wipe her child with her turban. Really disturbing stuff. That Mugabe is not allowing in aid and denying it. They had police and medical staff talking about threats etc. Dunno why. It's those stories that never leave your mind. You pray away for them, but wish you could do more. I wondered - what Muhammad would do with all of that, as a real social activist who cared for the poor and suffering. Was another story of a 16 month old child abused by her 'father'. He beat her, fractured nearly every bone in the little angel's body, and then finally lays her little body overf his knee on her back and snaps her spine in two and kills her. Nearly made you throw up even thinking about it. Makes you feel so many very powerful emotions. If you met someone doing that - you would be very, very hard pressed not to want to send them straight to hell. Does make you wonder about good and evil for sure. Needless to say, I didn't get much sleep that night thinking of these poor children. Maybe sitting half the night and praying might do some good. Dunno.The world can be a terrible place - especially how the children and innocent are made to suffer. Edited by Gulliver - 26 October 2008 at 4:47am

Gulliver Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 12 September 2008 Status: Offline Points: 621	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gulliver Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 October 2008 at 4:35am
	Why don't good Muslims and good Christians band together and discover the realities and truths of both religions in the earlier days. They've all been watered down and corrupted to a large degree by patriachs - men and their egos wanting to rule the roost. As we say here, "Tell 'em to KISS MY COOKIE !" ;-) LOL True though.

Chrysalis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 November 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2033	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chrysalis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 October 2008 at 3:47am
	Muslim Women even fought Jihaad! Not only did they provide medical assistance. I have read more than 2 instances in Bukhari. One was a lady who went into battle . . and at first the muslims in the field at the time, thought she was a man (the way she fought). She was therefore given a share in the booty, since she participated in the Jihad. Another lady, was amongst the women, in a fort - where women, elderly and children would stay , and when some Nonmuslim fighters tried to take over the fort, and enter - she killed some in defense. (or one, dnt remember) Women not only attended Mosque, they were active participants. They would ask Questions, and if they could not hear what the Prophet was saying due to audibility, they would ask men in front of them to repeat it. Infact, there were women with little kids, who would go to the Mosque - taking the kids with them. Accordting to hadith, the Prophet would sometimes shorten the Salaat by reciting shorter Surahs - if he heard a baby crying in the Jamaat - because he did not want the mother and child to be distressed! Subhanallah!
	"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."