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    Posted: 31 July 2009 at 12:39pm
Originally posted by JOUBERAR JOUBERAR wrote:

Originally posted by islamispeace islamispeace wrote:

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A contradiction is saying that something did not happen, not that it happened at a different time.
 
Why would there be 4 Gospels in the Holy Bible  that are all slightly different?
 
I mean really wouldn't you burn the ones that did not match up exactly- even if it was GOD's word?
 
Could the people claiming these Gospels as GOD's Word not see that there were sight differences?
 


Perhaps you can explain why Matthew and Luke differ on when exactly Jesus was born?  Matthew has Jesus being born during the reign of Herod the Great, whereas Luke has Jesus being born during the reign of Herod Archelaus, almost 10 years later!  Was Jesus born twice? 

Don't rush.  I will give you some time to find a suitable source to copy and paste!  Wink
 
What is the big fuss about your Jesus was born 500 years later.



Huh?  What on earth are you talking about?  Can anyone understand this guy's incoherent ramblings?  I certainly can't! LOL

Jouberar, whatever you just said does not answer my question.  You really should study logical fallacies, because every one of your posts is riddled with them.  This particular one is a mix of a red herring and a tu tuoque. 
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Just to let you know, Martha, I have zero respect for the theology of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I also have zero respect for the way they deliberately mistranslate and misquote scriptures.

If you've read the book of Genesis yourself, you'd know that it says nothing about Adam eating the fruit because he knew Eve would have to leave the garden. First of all, God never said that the punishment for eating of the tree would be banishment. No, He said it would be death. And since when are we supposed to choose our spouses over the will of God? See, the Mormon doctrine about the Fall of Man is both theologically inconsistent and scripturally inaccurate.

The Mormans try to make the Bible fit Joseph Smith Jr.'s theology rather than try to make their theology and doctrines fit the Bible. ((shrug)) If that's how they want to do things, fine...but if that's the case, I really wish they'd provide some evidence of those golden tablets and magical spectacles.
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Originally posted by islamispeace islamispeace wrote:

Originally posted by believer believer wrote:

A contradiction is saying that something did not happen, not that it happened at a different time.
 
Why would there be 4 Gospels in the Holy Bible  that are all slightly different?
 
I mean really wouldn't you burn the ones that did not match up exactly- even if it was GOD's word?
 
Could the people claiming these Gospels as GOD's Word not see that there were sight differences?
 


Perhaps you can explain why Matthew and Luke differ on when exactly Jesus was born?  Matthew has Jesus being born during the reign of Herod the Great, whereas Luke has Jesus being born during the reign of Herod Archelaus, almost 10 years later!  Was Jesus born twice? 

Don't rush.  I will give you some time to find a suitable source to copy and paste!  Wink
 
What is the big fuss about your Jesus was born 500 years later.
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Salaams Hayfa,
Standard bible (KJ's version) and Book of Mormon (book of Moses). Might as well include those scriptures and make it more interesting.
Whilst most Christians don't recognise the Book of Mormon it gives an historical/religious account of peoples living on the American continent.
As  most of the time we talk about the bible and the area and people around israel and then the qu'ran and its people in the Arabian peninsula I thought it would be quite interesting to include the Mormon's view too.
 
As it is a free for all please don't mind me responding, lol.
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Salaams Martha,

What version are you coming from with Adam? Which bible?
 
iwas respnding to Natassia.. Smile
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You know...part of this discussion is why didnt Adam take responsibilityfor his wife. Actually he did. When he realised that Eve would be cast out of Eden for eating the fruit he ate the fruit too knowing he would also be cast out. Sounds like a very decent male image really.
 
It kind of comes down to any typical marriage doesn't it. A spouse might make a mistake and the other party forgives and they progress onwards.
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And for Muslims, in The Quran, Adam and Eve did not blame anyone but themselves! This is a big point.. acceptance and repentance. Whereas as Iblis, when he would  not bow to Adam, blamed God and Adam... he could not be humble. He had pride.

This is different then in the Christan concept of Adam 'blaming' someone else.

AND that Iblis deceived them.  He whispered and whispered... and swore upon God. So yes Adam and Eve committed a wrong but Allah is most merciful to those who repent..

How beautiful is that..

take individual responsibility.  Don't blame another for your own mistakes.

I was listening to the lecture series on Rights and Responsibilities of Marriage...


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Nastassia,
Not all Christians believe the way you do.
I for one have a hard time understanding sometimes, tho I always try to.
I am pasting a link which explains a few things as I knew and accepted them to be at the time I was a Christian.
So as not to bore you with too much, it is in simplifed form (written for children) but it includes the scriptures we are talking about right now.
 
Of course I don't expect you to accept these views. But sometimes things are not always black and white in life. It isn't just about one muslim and one christian having a battle here.
 
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