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    Posted: 18 May 2009 at 6:32am
Anti semitism exists nowadays as before but this time its the Arabs and the followers of whats regarded as the Arab religion, that're majorly at the recieving end.

Some of the fiercest critics of Israeli policies are the anti zionist Jews. Well, they cant be anti semites......perhaps just self-hating Jews.

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Originally posted by believer believer wrote:

Muslims use the verse in Chapter 7 to call people names-
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YUSUFALI: When in their insolence they transgressed (all) prohibitions, We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."
PICKTHAL: So when they took pride in that which they had been forbidden, We said unto them: Be ye apes despised and loathed!
SHAKIR: Therefore when they revoltingly persisted in what they had been forbidden, We said to them: Be (as) apes, despised and hated.
 
Have you not seen the young children being taught to say this of Jews, there was or is a  mouse on TV saying this, there are imams preaching this?
 
This verse explains that when jews transgressed the limits they were turned into Monkeys. It is also said that these turned monkeys, persihed without off-springs.
 
None of the muslims today call any jew "Monkey". We had two-three members at IC who were Jews. Were they called so ? Such thoughts are the products of satanic minds.
 
 I had never seen any Imams preach such. If at all { you shall find none, as these thoughts are yours }, if at all you find any muslims addressing such, you can tell them that Islam does n't preach so. I hope you shall not raise this issue again at boards.
 
We are going off-topic, if you still wish to continue, start up a new thread.
 
 
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote seekshidayath Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2009 at 6:54pm
 
The first ayah you quoted : "  O you who believe! Let not a group scoff at another group, it may be that the latter are better than the former. Nor let (some) women scoff at other women, it may be that the latter are better than the former. Nor defame yourselves, nor insult one another by nicknames. Evil is the name of wickedness after faith. And whosoever does not repent, then such are indeed wrongdoers"
 
Now show me, from this simple verse  wherein  muslims are told   to laugh at others, as you interpreted ? ? ?
 
Infact believers in Islam are taught etiquettes  that they shud n't laugh / scoff at other.
 
Don't go for wrong interpretations.
 
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Shasta'sAunt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2009 at 6:40am

Believer, since you yourself actually found a verse in The Quran that tells Muslims not to call people names, perhaps you should go back to worrying about those of your religion who do so.

 


Edited by Shasta'sAunt - 15 May 2009 at 6:46am
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote believer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2009 at 5:35am

When does free speech become hate speech?

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Muslims use the verse in Chapter 7 to call people names-
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YUSUFALI: When in their insolence they transgressed (all) prohibitions, We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."
PICKTHAL: So when they took pride in that which they had been forbidden, We said unto them: Be ye apes despised and loathed!
SHAKIR: Therefore when they revoltingly persisted in what they had been forbidden, We said to them: Be (as) apes, despised and hated.
 
Have you not seen the young children being taught to say this of Jews, there was or is a  mouse on TV saying this, there are imams preaching this?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote believer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2009 at 5:29am
seekhadith I find it interesting you do not know this verse:
 
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YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Let not some men among you laugh at others: It may be that the (latter) are better than the (former): Nor let some women laugh at others: It may be that the (latter are better than the (former): Nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by (offensive) nicknames: Ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, (to be used of one) after he has believed: And those who do not desist are (indeed) doing wrong.
PICKTHAL: O ye who believe! Let not a folk deride a folk who may be better than they (are), not let women (deride) women who may be better than they are; neither defame one another, nor insult one another by nicknames. Bad is the name of lewdness after faith. And whoso turneth not in repentance, such are evil-doers.
SHAKIR: O you who believe! let not (one) people laugh at (another) people perchance they may be better than they, nor let women (laugh) at (other) women, perchance they may be better than they; and do not find fault with your own people nor call one another by nicknames; evil is a bad name after faith, and whoever does not turn, these it is that are the unjust.
 
But really I have heard muslims say that this verse refers to muslims only.  Basically you can do what you want to non-believers, because they are second class citizens.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote seekshidayath Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2009 at 6:12pm
Originally posted by believer believer wrote:

 
Does the Quran say anywhere do not call non-muslims names, be kind/ love your enemy?
 
 
Can you show us a verse from Qur'an where in we are asked to call non-muslims names {in your lang} ---- ?
 
 
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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