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"When He wishes something then He says to it "Be" and it is. Qul in dalaltu fainnama adillu AAala nafsee waini ihtadaytu fabima yoohee ilayya rabbee innahu sameeAAun qareeb Say: if i go astray verily i go astray upon myself, and if i be guided then it is by what my Lord reveals to me, verily He is hearing, near.[Saba(sheba) 34:50] reliance on the self is going astray because of the self and going astray for the self, so "upon the self", and reliance on what The Lord reveals is guidance because of The Lord for The Lord. Saba(sheba) 34:50 |
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First of all pressure increased because the cloud was collapsing as a result of its own gravitational field, according to Pressure Law, temperature increased proportionately. I doubt if that can be called "friction". Anyway, that is high-school science, its more than 6-7 years, I don't remember in detail. |
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To correct myself, circular shape of Stars and palnets is the result of gravitational force. Surface tension is the cause of spherical shapes of water drops etc. |
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Zaman said: "That is incorrect, although those elements are abandunt in Earth, in the entire universe they are only in negligible quantities. Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the Universe. The Sun and all the other stars are almost entirely composed of Hydrogen and its isotopes." Notice I said "Planets" and not stars as you mention the SUN. You ar eright Hydrogen is the most abudant gas in the universe but all the planets within our solar system contains all of these elements. Some more in percentage in others but regardless my point is clear that all these gases are within most of the planets. >>>>>The gases condensed because of gravitational force of each other. Because of intense gravitational force, nuclear fusion started which released heat and prevented the "congregation" of molecules from collapsing further. If I recollect correctly, combusion is defined only for burning due to oxidation. <<<<< Zaman if I may help you out a little here..... What I was explaining briefly was the Nebular theory which states: Is the slow collapse of a Nebular cloud. While a star is forming in the center of the cloud out the outer regions of the cloud swirl in a disk like structure (perhaps due to its gravitational effect on those outer regions). In the Theory of Condensation, this inc;udes some of the Nebular theory but, it also incorporates some of the interstellar dust that I was talking about which may have formed the planets. Those interstellar grains actually helped cool the the nebular cloud by radiating the heat and at the same time, atoms would also attach. Evenbtually the dust grains grew into large clumps which eventually could form into planets (known as accretion) with their own grativational fields which attract materials. the formation of the planets was also due to their region within the cloud. As the Sun eventually formed the inner protoplanets temparture was higher than that of the outer protoplanets as a result, the gaseous moleculre were too high for them to coalesce and eventually dissipated. The outer planets were in colder regions where they barely had enough gravity.
Zaman I have to disagree with you on nuclear fusion. The reason being is because the early system (Solar System that is) was heated by friction, not by fusion because it would occur later at some time. The Angular momentum didn't really really collapse on itself which instead created Protoplanetary disk (which I've already explained). Eventually have 100 million years or so THERMOnuclear reactions began to occur which allowed for the protosun to become the Sun. Edited by Israfil |
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That is incorrect, although those elements are abandunt in Earth, in the entire universe they are only in negligible quantities. Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the Universe. The Sun and all the other stars are almost entirely composed of Hydrogen and its isotopes.
The gases condensed because of gravitational force of each other. Because of intense gravitational force, nuclear fusion started which released heat and prevented the "congregation" of molecules from collapsing further. If I recollect correctly, combusion is defined only for burning due to oxidation. Edited by ZamanH |
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Planets are round because of surface tension that existed in the primordial fluid and for a fixed volume its sphere that is the geometrical shape which has smallest surface area. Also, planets are not perfectly rounded (but oblong in shape i.e world is wider at the Equator) because of the centrifugal force, caused by the Earth's rotation, that the primordial fluid experienced. Gravitational force of Sun will have negligible effect (over shape of the Earth), I think. |
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Can you imagine the beauty we see from the point of view from Earth, what if we were in space how earth look from the sky? That would be amazing. Planets and stars are indeed wonderous and perhaps it would take a lifetime to actually grasp the whole of their beauty what a marvelous creation indeed!
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I have some really excellent and amazing memories of the moon, my first one is when I was on camp in year 7, and man it was unbelievable. It was night (well obviously ), the area, there was the building we stayed in, outside was a campsite and a litter over the way is the lake, and one night during a night hiking, I look towards the lake and there is this big huge like ball in the sky and small part hidden beneath the hozion, water meets moon, the light wasn't white but a yellowish colour. Looking over towards the lake and seeing this moon that almost literally took over the sky, was like magical, I never thought the moon could be like this or see it this way nor be so close to the earth. Another memory was a few years back, mum and I had dinner at a friends house, later she drove us back and on the way I could see this big light object over the way, but it was too low to see what it was and there were other objects n the way to, the friend notice it to after a little and shared with mum, so we were all curious as to what it could be, I kept thinking it had to be an hot air balloon why would something big and lightfilled be around , so we kept driving on a little till we could see what it was and when a clearing came, it revealed the moon, not in its full phrase but soon, it was wow, but it was like the size of an hot air balloon, and infact because of the shape it looked like one to, all of it was shown above the horizon it to was a yellowish bight glow. |
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