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    Posted: 29 July 2005 at 9:36pm

 

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Judgement day passes in the moment we decide something needs attention & we take positive action. Then there will be a great sorting out of people into groups, Inspired by Surah 99 Ayat 1-8
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote copenhagen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 July 2005 at 10:46am
Originally posted by Raman Raman wrote:

Peace be with all...

Noah, Copenhagen and every other one whose hearts aspire towards Allah...

The Personal God...

The Only One

Let me explain it to you in another way... The relationship between man and God is a Personal relationship... the only one that really exists... the one we establish from our own solitude.



I have no interest in renewing Islam :) I just came to this site to learn, but my fingers get the best of me, and I start writing when I should be reading.

You mention a personal God, but I don't believe in a personal God. Is it possible for Allah to be my personal God?

I'm not arguing in favor of atheism. Not at all.

I do look at the vast myriad of gods that have presented to people. GodChecker.com is a favorite website of mine. Gods and their teachings always correspond to the environment of the time. The Quran is no different. While it does touch on a few timeless issues, so does every other religious body of teachings.

I believe in faith. I believe it applies to all the 6 billion plus people of earth. I believe everyone is just at a different stage. So, you can whine and complain and say you're not in it, you can give every philosophical argument, every counter-proof, you can SCREAM "Not Me". I just smile and nod, and say, "yes, you". Welcome to my religion, you are a member

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Sam
Some people before you asked questions, and on that account lost their faith.
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"You will never attain piety and righteousness,(and eventually paradise)until you
spend of that which you love."(Al-Imran:92)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Yusuf. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 July 2005 at 9:46am

Raman, just a technical comment: you are apparently loading images from your computer. While they appear on your computer, none of us can see them. In order to make an image visible to the entire community you need to link to an http address.

I did the same thing for a long time!

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The same guidance he has for you. That is the miracle of His Mercifulness.

It is not the purity of any book, it is the purity of the heart of the believer that makes the difference.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Noah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 July 2005 at 9:01am
 do allready. I concidder all monotheists my brethren. Who am i to tell them what to do and not. I can give them my personal view point and that is all. What guidence God have for them in their life i have no idea about :).

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Originally posted by Noah Noah wrote:

I still fail to see the problem. I strongly belive in personal guidence, as that is what Quran teaches. "you recite it, we explain it" etc..
This is why we pray, to establish communication on our behalf. But prayer is not limited to a set of rituals at all. You can pray anytime anywhere, and i do this most of the day when im not using my mind for various tasks, i put it with God


That is exactly right and the right path, and that is how you unfold the relationship with the One God

So im unsure what it is you want me to realise. that i should leave Quran?

No way. What I want you to realise that this is also true for every human being in the unfoldment of his relationship with the One God. What I want you to realise is that there is only One God and that we tread our path towards Him through many paths, but all roads lead to Him... All roads lead to Mecca... All roads lead to Rome... and All are the paths His criatures follow.

Thats not going to happen

Good. You should never do that.

and this is not blind faith at all. I have put that book through all kinds of tests before i accepted it as divine revelation.

That is wise

Dont ever believe that you know the facets or depth another mans faith, just because it perhaps have another way of manifesting itself than what you expect. its rude, illinformed and primitive.

That is exactly it. And the facets or depth of other mans faith applies to all those faiths in the emblem of IFSU. And that is what I want you to realise.

Peace to you also








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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Noah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 July 2005 at 5:16am
I still fail to see the problem. I strongly belive in personal guidence, as that is what Quran teaches. "you recite it, we explain it" etc..
This is why we pray, to establish communication on our behalf. But prayer is not limited to a set of rituals at all. You can pray anytime anywhere, and i do this most of the day when im not using my mind for various tasks, i put it with God.

So im unsure what it is you want me to realise. that i should leave Quran? Thats not going to happen, and this is not blind faith at all. I have put that book through all kinds of tests before i accepted it as divine revelation. Dont ever believe that you know the facets or depth another mans faith, just because it perhaps have another way of manifesting itself than what you expect. its rude, illinformed and primitive.

Peace
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