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Sign*Reader wrote: Hayfa wrote: And for me, I know that if something is part of Islam that is "hard" for me to "accept" i take it as me vs. the religion. I am a product of my life and so I will interpret things through that prism.  For instance, putting pictures of people up or statues etc is discouraged.  I don't think I am about to worship them, but OTHERS do. So hence the discouragement. Same with "mixing" of men and women, I won't sleep with them, but others DO.  And there are actually very few things where things are not in agreement by the majority of Muslims. Now they may not act upon it, say drinking, but the agreement is fairly universal. In fact there are more agreements then non agreements. And if you read about disagreements sometimes they are on such obscure stuff, like the one in million situation that the arguments are often to argue for argue sakes. Excellent points, Jazakallah

Just like Sign, wanted to say

Hi Hayfa,

I was talking about the 7 conditions to be met when taking shahada?

I don't know how to explain beyond this really. Translations are all different...ie some say that you declare Muhammed is a messenger of GOd..others say you accept Muhammed as the last prophet of GOd.

Certainly I had no instructions on anything like this at the time. Also I had not studied for any length of time beforehand. SOme say you should study before, others say it is not necessary.

Obviously I have studied since then, but it has not helped as much as I had hoped.

I am not a person to care much for worldy things..guess you know me by now for that..so it wouldn't be me rejecting certain points cause it didn't fit in with my thinking. Actually the opposite I guess...I am very conscious that I need to DO the right things..but reliable sources might not be reliable at all. I wouldn't like to follow blindly.

The Quran is not corrupted, there are no flaws right? So how can we elaborate on it with hadiths from fallible scholars? And also we know that whilst the Quran is protected from corruption Islam isn't.

I have read seerah's about the Prophet(pbuh). It's the scholars I have problems with. Hadiths change..and scholars are not always scholarly:(

Hey Martha,

What are the "7 requirements to be muslim?" Are you talking on "basic beliefs?

Since there are 1.5 billion Muslims I found it easiest to use people I trust to find out information. And I don't use nonMuslim sources for sure.  This is how to avoid dubious sources.

And for me, I know that if something is part of Islam that is "hard" for me to "accept" i take it as me vs. the religion. I am a product of my life and so I will interpret things through that prism.  For instance, putting pictures of people up or statues etc is discouraged.  I don't think I am about to worship them, but OTHERS do. So hence the discouragement. Same with "mixing" of men and women, I won't sleep with them, but others DO. 

And there are actually very few things where things are not in agreement by the majority of Muslims. Now they may not act upon it, say drinking, but the agreement is fairly universal. In fact there are more agreements then non agreements. Typically within the "sects" has to do with "post" Sahaba time.. who is ruling etc. For instance some small groups go off tangent and follow another "prophet" after Prophet Mohammed (SAWS).

And if you read about disagreements sometimes they are on such obscure stuff, like the one in million situation that the arguments are often to argue for argue sakes.

There are very reputable sites that offer very good information and have reputable scholars. 

And if there is a particular area of Islam you want to improve for yourself there are ways to do that. Say you want to improve prayer or knowledge on history. There are classes you can take online.

May Allah reward you for your efforts.

Hayfa

 

Seeks,

It is not easy to recognise a good hadith.

If Allah commanded us not to divide into sects then we are indeed accountable if we do.


You must remember that for 6 years I had no help from my skanky husband. He would not let me attend any masjid for anything. Prayer, he said, was to be done in the home. I was not allowed to speak with any sister without being interigated. He made sure I was followed, he abused me regularly and to add insult to injury he said he did not care if I was muslim or not. ANd this is just for starters. SO, nOt exactly a shining example of a good muslim was he? ANd I did not know enough about Islam to pick a good husband on my own. Maybe I was naive, at fault, or just plain st**id on that account, but he will and has been rebuked by Allah for his lack of guidance with me. He has lost everything.
Surah 18:32-36 and 18:42-43 come to mind. He fits that so well.

So, I didn't exactly start well with Islam. Please remember, however, that I was muslim only by a few months when I met him. BLind faith and a limited understanding of the Quran was how it all started. (I have serious doubts if I am actually a muslim or not as nothing was explained to me when I took shahada. I did not fit in with the 7 requirements to be muslim) So, until that point of meeting him I was doing my best..attending classes at the masjid and enquiring. Unfortunately for me that was not enough to see me through the next 6years.

Allah knows all things..He will reward me for being a good wife under the most extreme circumstances. NOw I do not live near any muslim whatsoever. The nearest masjid is 20+ miles and I am unable to get there.

The forum has been my only lifeline. I have had varying responses from various members. Many have been extremely kind to me, some have suggested I have not been a good muslim. Hardly surprising then is it?

Allah is the most important in my life. He always has been, He always will be. If He had not been I would have been dead long ago.

So, I do not need conflicting ideas on hadiths or sunnahs that come from scholars often of dubious nature. It is how I see it.

BUt thanks seeks anyway :)