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    Posted: 17 June 2010 at 6:19pm
Originally posted by Tasneem Tasneem wrote:

You can have the last laugh. I would prefer to engage with reasonable Muslims.
http://islam21c.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=152237:fatwa-opposing-nude-body-scanners&catid=39&Itemid=83
 
 
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You can have the last laugh. I would prefer to engage with reasonable Muslims.
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The incident with our sister confessing her crime raises an interesting teaching moment, however having little to do with the issue at hand.  If someone has entered into discussions of committing a crime it would be folly to allow them to carry out injustice prior to intervention by authorities.
 
The Prophet turned away to teach us that if Allah has covered our sin, we are not to broadcast it, but privately make repentance.  Once a matter has become public, or in her case, an open confession, the law is applied.  She was stoned to death. 
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We seem to have a champion for the Saudi Holly Laws here! Very poor estimation indeed.
 
Even where the law is clear with regards to adultery, the Prophet (SAW) turned away when a woman came and confessed her crime. Obviously he wanted her to repent and ask Allah (SWT) for forgiveness.
 
But the holy champions of today are so perfect themselves that they are so eager to prescribe punishments - even the death penalty to anyone who in their estimation has violated Islamic laws! May Allah Guide them to the right path!
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"According to whom? "Evil Kuffar" Law? or "Holly Saudi" law?"
 
Common sense law enforcement in any land, at least, in my estimation.
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Originally posted by abuayisha abuayisha wrote:

"Looks like he didnt commit the crime" Wink 
 

Well, intent here is a crime, and prevention of carrying out the act is the responsibility of law enforcement.  Criminal conspiracy; an agreement between two or more persons to break the law at some time in the future, and in some cases, with at least one overt act in furtherance of that agreement.  "Sibat, in the kingdom on a pilgrimage, said he'd be happy to help."

 
According to whom? "Evil Kuffar" Law? or "Holly Saudi" law?
 
Anyway, i always thought, Islamically speaking, you are not guilty until you have actually commited the act, and turning away from it, would be a sign of repentence, or good deed written in your book Smile
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�No doubt a great deal of damage has been done to his family, thanks to the Saudis and their blind supporters!�

Yeah, and what responsibility does Mr. Sibat bear? Or does �clear reasoning� suggest otherwise?  
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April 21, 2010

Saudis Not to Behead Lebanese Psychic"

AlhumdulIllha, for the moderates and those who have a clear reasoning, whose efforts may have helped save his life. No doubt a great deal of damage has been done to his family, thanks to the Saudis and their blind supporters!

When you try to reason using verses of the Qur�an and hadith which clearly do not sanction the kind of punishment that the heavy handed GUARDIANS OF ISLAM were going to mete out to this man and have ruined him and his family mentally, physically and financially, I wonder who deserves a greater punishment. Unfortunately, lateral thinking is completely lacking amongst the so called pious Muslims who prefer to let others do the thinking for them and for whom everything is black and white.

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Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity.

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Do they not ponder over the Word (of Allah), or has anything (new) come to them that did not come to their fathers of old?

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(Here is) a Book which We have sent down unto thee, full of blessings, that they may mediate on its Signs, and that men of understanding may receive admonition.
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