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elisheba 
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 Topic: Couple of questionsPosted: 03 March 2011 at 6:21am |
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Oppression( my understanding ) is someone trying to take more power than even The Almighty takes. HE does not take away our freedom of choice...but there are people who want to take it away. Therefore I see oppressors as attempting to usurp the exclusive right of The MOST HIGH. This seems like a very great sin but I do not know the word for it.
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honeto
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Posted: 14 July 2010 at 9:43pm |
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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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schmikbob
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Posted: 09 July 2010 at 5:48pm |
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Maybe Honeto was talking about the spelling of oppression as oppresion. Just a guess.
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honeto
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Posted: 07 July 2010 at 9:28pm |
Elijah, what a beautiful verse you quote, can you find anything more Just command than that anywhere else other than the Quran for the oppressed against the oppressor? You can write books about oppression but dictionary.com defines it as "the exercise of authority or power in a burdensome,cruel, or unjust manner." and I think in English that will be pretty close if not exact, and I think word means what it means: that "if some entity oppress you as a people, which is to exercise authority over you in a burdensome, cruel or unjust manner" what would you do in that case? what would be a Just response without you doing the same in return once the oppressor stopping from his oppression. What a beautiful and Just formula God laid out in the Quran, others can copy it, but cannot bring anything better, can they? Hasan Edited by honeto - 07 July 2010 at 9:42pm |
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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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abuzaid
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Posted: 24 June 2010 at 6:15pm |
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As in the case of any language, you will find variety of English meaning for an Arabic. Here only one word "fitnah" is used which is translated as oppression and tumult.
If you look at dictionary, it gives following meaning for the word fitnah إِغْراء , seduction , seducement , appeal , temptation , enticement , come-on , inveiglement , attraction سِحْر , spell , voodooism , witchery , sorcery , oomph , charisma , infatuation , witching , captivation , glamor , enchantment , glamour , attraction , appeal , bewitchment , charm , fascination شَغَب , اِضْطِراب , riot , noisiness , sedition , roar , rumpus , tumult , yelling , tumult , vociferation , noise , furore , turmoil , clatter , clamor , putsch , pother , commotion , fanfare , furor , clangor , out cry مِحْنَة , calamity , severe trial , gauntlet , disaster , adversity , tribulation , affliction نَوْع مِنْ نَبَات السَّنْط , cassie , sponge tree , sweet acacia So, to really understand what Quran meant at this particular place, you need to see what Prophet, his companion and their followers understood from this verse. Thus, I think what you need to discuss is that how early followers of Islam followed this verse instead of looking for dictionary meaning Edited by abuzaid - 24 June 2010 at 6:16pm |
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Posted: 22 June 2010 at 10:18pm |
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" that's where you need to look into for what Islam actually is"
--- not sure what you mean in this context.
P.S> Sorry for long pause in discussion. I had lots of things to do in my new job.
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elijah-boy
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Posted: 22 June 2010 at 10:14pm |
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CHRYSALIS:
Here it comes, I'd like to know what the "oppresion" means here. Same question regarding "tumulut" if you wouldn't mind
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter... But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful... If they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression" (2:190-193). Edited by elijah-boy - 22 June 2010 at 10:16pm |
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abuzaid
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Posted: 20 June 2010 at 5:06am |
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elijah-boy:
I am interested in answering your question. But this discussion is going on for quite long. So, I want you to give me current questions. Or let me known if your initial questions are as it is. Edited by abuzaid - 20 June 2010 at 7:25pm |
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