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    Posted: 20 July 2011 at 8:10am
Salaams sister. I have never tasted haraam meat. So i am sure that the food was vegetarian. Yes i definately do not see a problem with consulting with an imam, even though we will be held accountable for the choices we make for ourselves.
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Originally posted by semar semar wrote:

Salam,
 
In humble  my opinion we need to refer to this hadith:
 
As Abu Huraira related: The Prophet said, "Religion is very easy and whoever overburdens himself in his religion will not be able to continue in that way. So you should not be extremists, but try to be near to perfection and receive the good tidings that you will be rewarded." (Bukhari book 2 #38)
 
Becasue sometime wae are too bussy to think about small and in grey area we miss the big and very clear thing such as corruption, abuse, working hard, honesty, etc. Perhaps this that make we muslim behind.
 
 


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I totally agree with what Semar said. [as a general rule]



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Originally posted by lady lady wrote:

Is permissible because you are praying over YOUR own food, and if someone prays outloud over the food then they are praying over their food. If I say in my heart as this person is praying, that "Allah I associate no partners with YOU, and I am aware that YOU are the ONE GOD. Then It is permissible to eat because Your food has nothing to do with that person's food. And also you have declared to Allah (SWT) that you do not agree with the prayer.  For example, it is the same as if someone prays outloud, "Oh Lord, we know that you sent us down Jesus, (AS) to worhip him, and to believe that he is god." This prayer if said outloud does not affect what you believe in your heart. So does that mean that when the person says WE that you will be held accountable for her statement, and that you following what she said because she made the prayer out loud? NO,  so the food will be permissible.

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Makes sense to me. JazakAllah for sharing Lady. It is sometimes better to approach a scholar or imam if you have access to one. 

Although, one question... was the food Vegetarian or Meat? Because if the meat was not halal, then even if u pray Allah's name over it... it stays non-halal. But if the food was permissible like vegetarian or halal meat, then the Imam's statement would make sense.

If the food has non-halal meat, then I would follow Signreader's advise and stick  to the 'safe foods' such as vegetarian or seafood dishes.

Whenever in doubt, opt for Seafood, Vegetarian or Kosher.








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I'm confused, Lady. Polythesist god? Which religion are you talking about?

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Assalaamoalikum.
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As-salaam alaikum.  I think the best thing to do is to be on the safe side and try to avoid the food.  I feel that the Quran is clear on the matter, as brother Hasan showed.  Therefore, that food should be avoided.  If you can, perhaps you can bring your own food. 
Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lady Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2011 at 9:58pm
Assalaamoalaikum. The seminars that I attend sometimes are work related. I don't usually ask hypothetical questions. The questions that I do have are based on my personal situations. Our imam is respected much from state to state. He is very practical and knowlegeable about Islam. Again thanks to all for taking out the time to answer my question. I have already received the answer to my question.

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What kind of seminars are we talking about?

I see Br. Hasan has made bold the Quranic prohibition in his post an Imam can't just nullify! That will raise some questions about the class of the imam! You don't need imam for such things you should know what is in Quran and in what is your soul that will direct to right decision in most cases! If something is not mentioned in Quran then you may consult with qualified imam! Islam is not an clergy oriented faith...There are imams and then there are imams!
All I know is the Muslims became Muzlums (in bondage) cuz they kept going for the taweels just like the Bani Israel; and rest is history!


Edited by Sign*Reader - 18 June 2011 at 9:14pm
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