The Qur'aan Cosmological Model |
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schmikbob
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Posted: 22 March 2013 at 6:44am |
Stop S, I like the wind tunnel interpretation of his art work. Whin I look at this sketch I am reminded of the disk sent into space by the US Voyager spacecraft. It was an attempt to communicate with whatever species found this spacecraft. We have no way to know what the baboon actually meant by his feces drawings because nothing is labeled. Oh well, maybe the zookeeper knows.
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StopS
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Hahaha, right - and that is why the screenshot is right here? /endsarcasm |
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al-amiyr
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surface that must be extracted and in this case here - The Qur'aan Cosmological Model. Kh = T +R +F +2T +2R +2F. Which is derived from: Khalqan = Tayyan +Ratqan +Fatqan +2Tayyan +2Ratqan +2Fatqan. (an example of what is meant above in English is) Creation = Turn in +Rotate + Fire out +2Turn in +2Rotate +2Fire out. Which in turn are the key words from The Two Specific Qur'aan Cosmological Verses that describe the general evolution of the universe from before its date of birth and until its death.
Kh = T +R +F +2T +2R +2F through the fundamental structure of the Arabic language then we
witness a magnificent display of verbs, nouns, and adjectives that go
back to describe each and every phase of the universe at its exact time
and place in great detail. We are presented without
exaggeration hundreds of beautiful drawings of the phases the universe
undergoes from its cosmological origin, through its cosmological
evolution, and until its eventual cosmological fate. And upon that we
also see the derivation of many simple and logical abbreviations that
precisely describe each and every phase of the universe. And then
further beyond that we realize and see how the actions of the universe
drive life into the dead and empty of meaning fundamental building
blocks of the language- which are all the fundamental verbal patterns
from which are derived the words of the language.
Qur�aan 021:30 أَوَلَمْ يَرَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا أَنَّ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ كَانَتَا رَتْقًا فَفَتَقْنَاهُمَا وَجَعَلْنَا مِنَ الْمَاءِ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ حَيٍّ أَفَلَا يُؤْمِنُونَ transliteration �a-wa-lam yara lladhiyna kafaruw �anna as-samaawaati wa-l-�arDa kaanataa Ratqan fa-Fataq-naa humaa wa-ja�al-naa min al-maa�i kulla shay�in hayyin �a-fa-laa yu�minuwna Have those who have disbelieved now not seen:- that the samaawaat and the �arD (1)- were both Ratq (2)- and so We Fataq them both again. And We made from water every living thing. Will they now not believe? [translation by al-amiyr muhammad al-qurashi al-amjadiy] Edited by al-amiyr - 21 March 2013 at 1:50pm |
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StopS
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Hahaha, no, not a debate. I just asked him some questions to show others that he has no idea what cosmology is and what version of cosmogony he is plagiarising. He is unable to answer any factual questions and can only answer when it comes to word formats or spelling. It's actually quite sad. |
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al-amiyr
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An Incorrect Statement
"On the plus side, you do seem to have got al-amiyr to concede that he erroneously dropped the term 2T from one of his equations," Where did you get that from? That is 100% incorrect! StopS invented something and I proved that he distorted what I had written and then he argued the incorrectness of his presentation which he attributed to me. He did it on several occasions on other sites. They are all available online to read. You are partially correct when you said that I have defenders. In fact so many who were opposed to me now became full supporters. Some have even apologized online for being hash. This model is striking fear in the Godless. ALL their strategies to fight and insult the Qur'aan and the character of the prophet (S+) is becoming useless. It is amazing that on more than 20 forums where this model is discussed their have not been one Muslim opponent and not one Atheist who could bring one valid point against it. Rudeness and deception have become there trademarks. It will be etched on their escutcheons. |
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abuayisha
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that's what I thought about below...... |
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schmikbob
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Look, look, the baboon is becoming upset. It's throwing itself at the glass. I bet it starts throwing it's own feces pretty soon. |
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Reepicheep
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StopS wrote: Good one. A laugh a day .....
StopS, I did a google search on this "Qur'aan Cosmological Model" and noticed that this is not the first debate you have had with al-amiyr. Interestingly, he does seem to have some defenders in other forums. Go figure.
Personally, I think I'd rather take "getting hit in the head with a hammer" lessons than discuss al-amiyr's theories, but to each his own.
I did come across an interesting quotation in another forum, where the discussion about this model has now reached 17 pages in length and is still ongoing:
al-amiyr wrote: You can refer back to the following posts #1 #8 #9 #12 #19 #22 #23 #26 #27 #58 #61 #71#139 #157 #162 and #171.
If this Islamicity thread ever reaches the point where al-amiyr makes reference to "post #171", I think I'll break down and cry. On the plus side, you do seem to have got al-amiyr to concede that he erroneously dropped the term 2T from one of his equations, so perhaps there is yet reason for hope. Edited by Reepicheep - 21 March 2013 at 7:09am |
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