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    Posted: 03 July 2013 at 6:40am
Let us say that if the power of the Devil is so easy to see...God must have something to show for those who are holy'
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nothing Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 June 2013 at 5:00pm
Originally posted by bronaz bronaz wrote:

There are numerous Saints who bore the signs of the sufferings of Jesus Christ during his passion. Besides St. Pio and St. Francis of Assisi there are others that had the wounds of the crowning with thorns such as Blessed Anne Emmerich.

Ok so you confirmed it that this is not new phenomena. The question is how far can it goes further back?

Quote We have also the incorrupt bodies of saints...people who have died but their bodies never decomposed eg. St. Francis Xavier in Goa, St. John Vianney, St. Catherine Laboure.
Acts 2 27 says 27 because You will not leave me in * Hades
or allow Your Holy One to see decay

I heard it from the muslims side. When Muhammad's companions grave yard was flooded (about 15-20 years ago) it exposed their intact bodies. I don't know if it was all of them or some of them, I just take their side of the story. Than the taliban in Afghanistan had stories of the dead mujahiddin releases strong pleasant aromatic odor, again I just take their telling. To add on top of this there was a nun in Jerussalem when she died the body also released pleasant aromatic odor. Again I just take their story as it is assuming that it is true.

But do you take this as heavenly sign? that those people were the accepted by God?

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There are numerous Saints who bore the signs of the sufferings of Jesus Christ during his passion. Besides St. Pio and St. Francis of Assisi there are others that had the wounds of the crowning with thorns such as Blessed Anne Emmerich.
We have also the incorrupt bodies of saints...people who have died but their bodies never decomposed eg. St. Francis Xavier in Goa, St. John Vianney, St. Catherine Laboure.
Acts 2 27 says 27 because You will not leave me in * Hades
or allow Your Holy One to see decay
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Originally posted by nothing nothing wrote:

This is the doco that I saw briefly, look real to me considering other people were there all the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEr6Vee83TU

Hi Nothing,
I say ignore Ron.  He's not a believer.
I think this is one of the great mysteries that we will never understand.  We either believe or we do not.  Just like the miracles of statues that weep, and the Marian apparitions.  We can not explain the supernatural.
Salaam brother, keep on believing. Smile

added note: doctrine has nothing to do with it.  Why would doctrine have anything to do with anything?  Doctrine is what man comes up with.  The supernatural is what the Creator gives us... what we witness and/or experience by our own eyes... often unexplainable.



Edited by Caringheart - 20 June 2013 at 5:50pm
Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever
"I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ron Webb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 June 2013 at 4:32pm
Yeah, you saw it on Youtube, so it must be real. Tongue
 
C'mon, nothing, it doesn't even make theological sense.  It's not part of Christian doctrine, and it serves no purpose in God's alleged plan.  Why?
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This is the doco that I saw briefly, look real to me considering other people were there all the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEr6Vee83TU


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Matt Browne Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 June 2013 at 6:21am
Willebrand-J�rgens is the most common blood-clotting disorder (dominant inheritance) and probably a good explanation.
A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ron Webb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 June 2013 at 7:52pm
It has no scriptural basis or or rationale, so I don't see how even theists can see it as "real".  As for an explanation, I doubt very much that a single explanation will cover all cases.  Most of them are probably pious frauds of various kinds or apocryphal stories, some may be outright charlatanry, and a few unconsciously self-inflicted.  (I'm sure that in the throes of a deep religious trance, all sorts of things could happen that may later be recalled imperfectly or not at all.)
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