The Original Sin

The effects of original sin are still here

Death entered the world. Both animal and human.
People are fallen
The world is a good world but a broken world and awaiting redemption

This thread has wandered from its original topic of original sin. Without going thru 45 pages of comments, can someone state/restate the Muslim position on original sin? Do the Sunni and Shia share the same belief on the matter?

Truly, the thread has wandered. The answer to your question is: Muslims reject the doctrine of the Original Sin.

This should indeed confirm for you that the 3 are One.

How?

Yshwe by Himself alone would not have the full power of God... could not do the things which He was given to do on earth.

Are you sure about what you are saying? I am asking because I have been given to understand that all the three entities in the alleged trinity are co-equal? Or, is that incorrect?

From the book of Luke, chapter 5
18 And, behold, men brought in a bed a man which was taken with a palsy: and they sought means to bring him in, and to lay him before him.

19 And when they could not find by what way they might bring him in because of the multitude, they went upon the housetop, and let him down through the tiling with his couch into the midst before Jesus.

20 And when he saw their faith, he said unto him, Man, thy sins are forgiven thee.

24 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power upon earth to forgive sins, I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy couch, and go into thine house.

25 And immediately he rose up before them, and took up that whereon he lay, and departed to his own house, glorifying God.

From the book of Luke, chapter 7

41 There was a certain creditor which had two debtors: the one owed five hundred pence, and the other fifty.

42 And when they had nothing to pay, he frankly forgave them both. Tell me therefore, which of them will love him most?

43 Simon answered and said, I suppose that he, to whom he forgave most. And he said unto him, Thou hast rightly judged.

44 And he turned to the woman, and said unto Simon, Seest thou this woman? I entered into thine house, thou gavest me no water for my feet: but she hath washed my feet with tears, and wiped them with the hairs of her head.

45 Thou gavest me no kiss: but this woman since the time I came in hath not ceased to kiss my feet.

46 My head with oil thou didst not anoint: but this woman hath anointed my feet with ointment.

47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.

48 And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven.

49 And they that sat at meat with him began to say within themselves, Who is this that forgiveth sins also?

50 And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.

But when we read Mathew, we get a different perspective.

Matthew 9:4-6
4 Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said, "Why do you entertain evil thoughts in your hearts?
5 Which is easier: to say, 'Your sins are forgiven,' or to say, 'Get up and walk'?
6 But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins...." Then he said to the paralytic, "Get up, take your mat and go home."Matthew 9:4-6
4 Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said, "Why do you entertain evil thoughts in your hearts?
5 Which is easier: to say, 'Your sins are forgiven,' or to say, 'Get up and walk'?
6 But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins...." Then he said to the paralytic, "Get up, take your mat and go home."

Aside from the fact that the so-called "Book of Matthew" was not even written by "Matthew" the disciple as we clearly see in Matthew 9:8-10 above, which means that the entire book could be nothing but a man-made phony lie, but as all of the Prophets received Revelations and Inspirations from GOD Almighty and His Angels, has it ever occurred to the polytheist trinitarian pagans that Jesus was not forgiving sins, but rather spoke what was inspired to him?

Now, as one clearly sees, the text of the above verses is vague! It doesn't prove that Jesus had any type of Divine Will or authority, but rather it only shows that he had a temporal and limited GOD-given one. In fact, we will shortly see that the NT records Jesus EXPLICITLY making this point very clear about him not having any Divine Will or Authority.   His earthly authority is both temporal and limited exactly like his Miracles.

Baptism in the name of Yshwe brings with it the Holy Spirit. But not God Almighty. The role of the spirit is explained in Islam just as you are claiming_

We read in the Qur�an that the Holy Spirit was sent down to strengthen Jesus and assist him in his work:
�We gave Jesus, son of Mary, clear signs, and strengthened him with the Holy Spirit�� (Al-Baqarah: 253)