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    Posted: 03 July 2015 at 1:28am
 It is very difficult to live alone in the universe and I want to ask a question that you all posted reply according to their state of mind after reading the post but don't give the solution.


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Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:

Originally posted by Ron Webb Ron Webb wrote:

My money is on:

5. Interstellar travel is not practical.  My back-of the-envelope calculations say that even if there were a million habitable planets in our own Milky Way galaxy, the average distance between them would be something like 3000 light-years.  If we could travel at the speed of light (which is impossible), it would take you 3000 years at light speed to get to the nearest habitable planet.

In practice, we could probably only manage a few percent of light speed, and even that would take an enormous amount of energy and would mean hundreds of thousands of years of travel time.  That's quite a commute. Wink

This is why there must be a dimension of travel that we have not yet fathomed.  Smile


Sending frozen embryos to be raised by androids might work. At some point we might even send digitized genomes plus synthetic zygotes. Seven billion genomes easily fit on today's hard disks.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Caringheart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 April 2015 at 2:15pm
Originally posted by Ron Webb Ron Webb wrote:

My money is on:

5. Interstellar travel is not practical.  My back-of the-envelope calculations say that even if there were a million habitable planets in our own Milky Way galaxy, the average distance between them would be something like 3000 light-years.  If we could travel at the speed of light (which is impossible), it would take you 3000 years at light speed to get to the nearest habitable planet.

In practice, we could probably only manage a few percent of light speed, and even that would take an enormous amount of energy and would mean hundreds of thousands of years of travel time.  That's quite a commute. Wink

This is why there must be a dimension of travel that we have not yet fathomed.  Smile
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I tend to view earth as the original 'melting pot'.
I fail to see any other explanation for the diversity of beings on this planet, except that we all have differing origins... i.e., people came here, or were brought here, from other galaxies/planets/places/ whatever.
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Originally posted by Ron Webb Ron Webb wrote:

Originally posted by biggerjohn biggerjohn wrote:

(I hope I am not presuming too much with the following) How many children do you have? Any grandchildren? I believe that God is big into family... VERY BIG into family.

Ah, well, I try not to talk too much about my family on public forums.  You'll notice that I use my real name, unlike most people.  It was a conscious decision I made many years ago that I would not hide my identity, and that I would be willing to stand by any opinions I expressed in real life.  However, that decision is not without its risks and I can't make that choice for others, including my family.

That said, the whole point of family is to stay in touch with them.  It does us little good to know that there are fellow beings somewhere out there, ten thousand light years away, if we can't even communicate with them.

Quote Besides that, why not? Why would any intelligent being capable of designing, building, and creating not do so? In a previous thread I mentioned that I am an artist. I have had more than a few dry spells when I have produced very little work... not good times. I'm happiest when I am creative.

That's a good point.  So I guess either way, there's a good chance we're not alone.  But an even better chance we'll never know for sure.
 
I like your point about family and staying in touch. Sadly, I'm not all that good at keeping touch with my own family less than 400 miles away. Plus I imagine my cell plan would stick me with some heavy charges if I phoned someone ouside the solar system... again.
 
As far as never knowing for sure... if Hollywood is even remotely close to what alien life is like then I am OK with not knowing for sure Big%20smile
 
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Originally posted by Ron Webb Ron Webb wrote:

Originally posted by Tim the plumber Tim the plumber wrote:

Quite a commute, yes, but if the vessels in use are huge 5km diameter or more with billions of inhabitants then the question of what will they do whilst traveling is answered by carrying on with their lives.

And what kind of life would that be?  Generation upon generation, wandering in the black emptiness of space, never seeing the sun, never feeling the rain or walking under an open sky?  Who would condemn their descendants to that, for a hundred thousand years -- and why?

Even if they were crazy enough to start such a journey, my bet is that in about a hundred years it would occur to their grandkids that the nearest habitable planetary system is the one that they just left. Smile


If you have a 50km diameter asteroid as your starting material and create large habitats with multiple layers, say 100m vertically separated then you will have more land space to use as park land or whatever than humanity currently actually lives on.

I am confident we will go into space and create heaven. In fact many heavens.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ron Webb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 April 2015 at 11:35am
Originally posted by biggerjohn biggerjohn wrote:

(I hope I am not presuming too much with the following) How many children do you have? Any grandchildren? I believe that God is big into family... VERY BIG into family.

Ah, well, I try not to talk too much about my family on public forums.  You'll notice that I use my real name, unlike most people.  It was a conscious decision I made many years ago that I would not hide my identity, and that I would be willing to stand by any opinions I expressed in real life.  However, that decision is not without its risks and I can't make that choice for others, including my family.

That said, the whole point of family is to stay in touch with them.  It does us little good to know that there are fellow beings somewhere out there, ten thousand light years away, if we can't even communicate with them.

Quote Besides that, why not? Why would any intelligent being capable of designing, building, and creating not do so? In a previous thread I mentioned that I am an artist. I have had more than a few dry spells when I have produced very little work... not good times. I'm happiest when I am creative.

That's a good point.  So I guess either way, there's a good chance we're not alone.  But an even better chance we'll never know for sure.
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Originally posted by Tim the plumber Tim the plumber wrote:

Quite a commute, yes, but if the vessels in use are huge 5km diameter or more with billions of inhabitants then the question of what will they do whilst traveling is answered by carrying on with their lives.

And what kind of life would that be?  Generation upon generation, wandering in the black emptiness of space, never seeing the sun, never feeling the rain or walking under an open sky?  Who would condemn their descendants to that, for a hundred thousand years -- and why?

Even if they were crazy enough to start such a journey, my bet is that in about a hundred years it would occur to their grandkids that the nearest habitable planetary system is the one that they just left. Smile
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