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    Posted: 09 November 2015 at 6:51am
In the Name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. Praise be to Allah (SWT), Lord of the Worlds.



I don't know if you still want an answer or not, but I'm going to give one anyway. I hope that this reaches you. You said:

Quote Hi,

I was born and raised into a muslim family. I was religious and prayed my namaaz. Due to recent events I have started reading the Quran with meaning.

Recently I posted a picture on my facebook. It was a letter to the Christian community by the prophet. You can find the letter in the link below.

http://newsrescue.com/letter-to-all-christians-from-prophet-muhammad-sa/#axzz3edOyn5mK

To which someone replied quoting verses from the Quran.


Qur'an (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

Qur'an (5:80) - "You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide."

Qur'an (53:29) - "Therefore shun those who turn away from Our Message and desire nothing but the life of this world."

I have followed up on those and they are in the quran. The contents in the letter is different to what we are told to do in the verses in the Quran. Its a contradiction. I am not firm believer because of this. Please help me understand. Thank you.

Qas



I'm first going to respond to that which you wrote above, in sha Allah.

Allah (SWT) says that we shouldn't befriend those who reject Allah (SWT) and His Messenger. These people are AGAINST God, and His Messenger. So therefore, God is against THEM. Why would you hang around with non-Muslims, and partying with them, sleeping with them, hanging around with them, sharing secrets with them, taking them as protectors over Muslims, preferring them over Muslims, and the like, when you KNOW that they are AGAINST God, and God is against THEM. If you hang around with these people, and you ENJOY hanging around with them, and you LIKE them, and you SUPPORT them, and you ENJOY that which they're doing, and you PREFER them over Muslims, then aren't YOU like THEM? Please, tell me how you can "hang around" with these kind of people and still love God and His Message... If you enjoy being with them, you're LIKE THEM. Like Allah (SWT) said. Try it. You can never become the Muslim that God wants you to become, when you surround yourself with bad company. Did you see Muhammad (SAW) hanging around with Jews, and playing basketball with them, and liking them? No. He called the people towards Islam, and when they did (when they reverted), he hung out with THEM (Muslims). Not others.

The only time you can communicate with them, is when you're not trying to befriend them. So, you're allowed to work with non-Muslims, ask them questions, give "dawah" (calling them towards Islam) to them, and other things for the sake of Allah (SWT), or for some benefit, like working with them on the job, or doing homework with them, and stuff like that. But not befriending... Keep them as your "co-workers", or "classmate", or "guest", or whatever. BUT... Do NOT make friends with them, because then you will become CLOSE to them, and they close to you, and you WILL mix in everything (belief, behaviour, ...). Doesn't that make sense?

I remember when I used to hang around with non-Muslims... I used to swear, and make all kinds of jokes with them, that Allah (SWT) doesn't like. They would make fun of my religion, and they would make jokes about it... When I was with them, my "iman" (faith) didn't increase, but it decreased... Tell me, brother... HOW can you hang around with these people, and still be a believer (or have your iman increased)? You can't. I tried it.

These verses are NOT talking about that we should harm them, wallahi no! I will let the Qur'an speak further.

O you who believe! Take not as (your) bitaanah (advisors, consultants, protectors, helpers, friends, etc.) those outside your religion (pagans, Jews, Christians, and hypocrites) since they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you. They desire to harm you severely. Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, but what their breasts conceal is far worse. Indeed We have made clear to you the aayaat (proofs, evidence, verses), if you understand. Lo! You are the ones who love them but they love you not, and you believe in all the Scriptures [i.e., you believe in the Tawraat and the Injeel, while they disbelieve in your Book (the Qur�aan)>. And when they meet you, they say, �We believe.� But when they are alone, they bite the tips of their fingers at you in rage. Say: �Perish in your rage. Certainly Allaah knows what is in the breasts (all the secrets).� If a good befalls you, it grieves them, but some evil overtakes you, they rejoice at it�� [Aal �Imran 3:118-120].


What we HAVE to do is to treat them with kindness, and to not treat them unjustly. Be fair to them, and don't make fun of them. But don't mix with them either. That's that. In other words; stay neutral, even if they hate you.

THAT'S peace.


Then you said:

Quote so in this great islamic community no one is able to answer my question?

Thank you, you have all been utterly useless. In sha Allah remember when I die and Allah swt asks me why I didn't believe in him I will tell him I posted this on many forums. I asked this question to many people. I messaged scholars who claimed they can reply to any questions but no one did. Whoever read this and didn't reply, lanat on you.



Not everyone CAN reply. Some people don't know WHAT to reply. And if you want a question to be answered, ask Allah (SWT) first. And you don't have to be a "scholar" to understand verses like this. Can't you reflect upon this verse yourself? Don't we all have brains to reflect with? And hearts?

"Do people not reflect upon the Qur'an?! Or are there locks on their hearts?" 47:24

On the Day of Judgement it's going to be you who's going to pay for your actions. You can't blame anyone. Not even Iblees. Every man has his own deeds, and deeds make the man. The fact that you don't understand a couple verses in the Qur'an, doesn't mean that you can't believe in God anymore... The fact that you don't understand verses in the Qur'an is a problem in you, not in God. No hard feelings, at all. But you have to seek for the answers, even when it's hard.


Then this one:


Quote I understand, but there are also bad things in the quran. It tells us to kill someone who leaves islam and if you look at my first post you can see all the 'hate' I am seeing in the Quran which I can't justify by understanding it.

I want to know, if islam is the religion of peace then why are there verses which contradict that statement in the Quran?

----> on another note, a thought I have been having recently is Allah swt is all knowing, all powerful and forgiving - Then why create suffering in this world? I get that its a test, he could make us so he did (for whatever reason which is out of our comprehension), I can't believe that a all knowing, all loving and all powerful god would create such a nasty world for us to be 'tested' and put into heaven or hell - Why would create us in the first place? I get we have freedom of thought and that this world has been created as a test but as someone who is capable of thinking for myself (the way Allah swt createD me) I can't accept that such a god would put me here knowing full well I will reach this conclusion and still allow me to be born let alone carry on living (yes he is the most forgiving but how can I forgive someone for creating me in a way which will lead me to hell (a hell which he created) for people like me? people who sin who are starting to slip away from islam and eventually become a complete non believer, how can I trust someone who has made me to go to hell?)



There aren't "bad things" in the Qur'an... Find me ONE verse that tells us to kill those who leave Islam, find me ONE verse! You ain't gonna find it. Understand that you should understand the Qur'an with the Sunnah. If you don't do this, you're never going to understand it. You can't "justify" it, because you're "seeing" (like you said), not REFLECTING. Just some friendly advice from someone who was in the exact same position as you are now, trust me.

Islam is the religion of Peace and Truth. Only for those who are peaceful and truthful.

"This book (the Qur'an) is free of doubts/contradictions, and a guidance for those who are Al-Muttaqoon (Pious, God-fearing, God-conscious, righteous)" 2:2



You continued asking lots of questions in the end, which I would like to answer on, shortly, because these questions are basic stuff, that can easily be derived from the Qur'an and Sunnah. Nevertheless...

God is the Creator. He creates what He wants, so therefore, He doesn't need a "why" or a "reason" to create something. That's the first thing.

He created Mankind and Jinnkind with free-will, for worship and obedience. If you do what God wants you to do, you will go to Paradise. If not, then Hell. Those are His Rules.

God is The Just, and The Most Merciful at the same time. If He wasn't the Most Merciful, then no one would enter Paradise, because then Hellfire would be a fitting reward for everyone, even the Prophets (like Muhammad (SAW) said: "None of you will enter Paradise just because of your actions, not even me. Except and only if Allah was to show Mercy upon me"). But out of His Love and Mercy, He forgives people for erring against themselves, so that they may enter Paradise. And if God wasn't Merciful, He would throw us all in Hell as soon as we make a mistake...

I think you don't understand the purpose of life just yet. Our purpose of life is to do what God wants us to do (so to worship Him and to obey His Commands). That's the purpose of life. Whether you believe in this or not, that's the purpose of life. If you choose not to fulfill your purpose, then that's on you. But know that it won't bring you any good if you go against God.

So you're saying that you "SHOULDN'T" be tested in a TEST? I really don't get that. Life is a test. A test. Then why do think that you won't be TESTED? A "nasty world"? That sounds like a test to me, which it is... What, do you want to be tested in a glamorous-bling-bling world, with no hardship? What kind of test is that? A test not to get bored? Come on, brother. God can create whatever He wants, and He can set whatever rule He wants. You can either live by that, or not. But that doesn't change reality.

"Do the people think that they will be left to say, "We believe" and they will not be tried?" - 29:2


And that which you said lastly, sounds strange to me! Why do you think that you're "slipping away from Islam"? Who said this? No one! You are a believer, and God loves you, and He wants the best for you! And who said that you're going to Hell? If you yourself think that, then that's a sign that you have to pull up and change, because I don't who you are, or what you do, but if you're sure that you're going to Hell if you continue like this, then you have to change, brother ...! Who's stopping you? God has NOT "made you to go to Hell"! Who said this ...? Did an angel come down, and tell you this? No. Then why do you assume this? Don't you know that the companions of Muhammad (SAW) were the WORST of people? Don't you know that they were thugs and criminals BEFORE they came to understanding? Don't you know that they're are the BEST of this "ummah" (nation of this prophet (Muhammad))? Don't you know what Muhammad (SAW), and his companions said?

"Sometimes people with the worst past, can create the best future. If they believe (in God)! If they believe (in God)!"

So who's stopping you?


And you say that you will go to Hell because you're sinning ...? Brother, EVERYONE sins! EVERYONE, except the Prophets and Messengers of God who can't sin.

Scholar, sheikh, imam, sahabi, hafiz... I don't care who... He's a sinner! I am a sinner! You are a sinner! The companions of Muhammad (SAW) were sinners! But yet, does that mean that we're all going to Hell? No, of course not.


Brother. Don't despair in the Mercy of your Lord. Don't give up. You can still earn Paradise, and maybe you can even earn the HIGHEST level of Paradise! "If you believe (in God)! If you believe (in God)". Don't let others discourage you. Don't let Shaytaan discourage you. You can do this. And when you do, you're not going to have ANY regret on the Day of Judgement. Paradise will be yours, if you just try the best you can, which is enough.



I hope this will reach you, wallahi I do.

As-salaam-aleikum, wa Allahu alim.
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I understand, but there are also bad things in the quran. It tells us to kill someone who leaves islam and if you look at my first post you can see all the 'hate' I am seeing in the Quran which I can't justify by understanding it.

I want to know, if islam is the religion of peace then why are there verses which contradict that statement in the Quran?

----> on another note, a thought I have been having recently is Allah swt is all knowing, all powerful and forgiving - Then why create suffering in this world? I get that its a test, he could make us so he did (for whatever reason which is out of our comprehension), I can't believe that a all knowing, all loving and all powerful god would create such a nasty world for us to be 'tested' and put into heaven or hell - Why would create us in the first place? I get we have freedom of thought and that this world has been created as a test but as someone who is capable of thinking for myself (the way Allah swt createD me) I can't accept that such a god would put me here knowing full well I will reach this conclusion and still allow me to be born let alone carry on living (yes he is the most forgiving but how can I forgive someone for creating me in a way which will lead me to hell (a hell which he created) for people like me? people who sin who are starting to slip away from islam and eventually become a complete non believer, how can I trust someone who has made me to go to hell?)
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Salem aleykoum Qasanova,

Allah Said in the Quran Surat 60 V. 8 :

" Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly. "

And Allah also Said in Surat 29 V. 46 :

" And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him." "

So when you study the Quran, you should take all the verse and understand them whit the comprehension of the scholars.

There some situation when you have to keep away from the disbilievers, and others situation to make good relationship. Relationships will depends from the context.
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so in this great islamic community no one is able to answer my question?

Thank you, you have all been utterly useless. In sha Allah remember when I die and Allah swt asks me why I didn't believe in him I will tell him I posted this on many forums. I asked this question to many people. I messaged scholars who claimed they can reply to any questions but no one did. Whoever read this and didn't reply, lanat on you.
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Hi,

I was born and raised into a muslim family. I was religious and prayed my namaaz. Due to recent events I have started reading the Quran with meaning.

Recently I posted a picture on my facebook. It was a letter to the Christian community by the prophet. You can find the letter in the link below.

http://newsrescue.com/letter-to-all-christians-from-prophet-muhammad-sa/#axzz3edOyn5mK

To which someone replied quoting verses from the Quran.


Qur'an (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

Qur'an (5:80) - "You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide."

Qur'an (53:29) - "Therefore shun those who turn away from Our Message and desire nothing but the life of this world."

I have followed up on those and they are in the quran. The contents in the letter is different to what we are told to do in the verses in the Quran. Its a contradiction. I am not firm believer because of this. Please help me understand. Thank you.

Qas
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