THE EXPANSION OF THE UNIVERSE

Greetings Gedya,

With a tick-tock of the clock

Is there no more room for poppycock?

agreed...However this is rather off the radar on this subject

Greetings Israfil,

Thanks for mustering a reply�

Just as I have seen you are using dialetical entrapment without directly answering my question.....

Fact is�the only �entrapment� that may occur is from your lack of knowledge of your book faith�

We doubt that you even understand your very own question.

You say the Qur'an is copied

The authors of the Koran say this�

 so who again is Shu'aib in the Bible?

Who is shu�aib in the Koran�..?

Do you even know�..?

How do you expect to proceed when you are unsure of what you are even talking about�.

Thanks�

Greetings Israfil,

Thanks for your reply�

You said 99% of the Qur'an is copied...

This is stated by the authors who penned the Koranic text (as we know it today)�by their claim that they copied Biblical �alkitabu��

So explain who the prophet Shu'aib is in the Bible and I said please do not mention Balaam as Shu'aib in the Qur'an was not Jewish or of the Hebrew nation....I said this would be among the gaps between the difference of the Qur'an and Bible....But again this is off topic just a side question

Let�s begin by defining the Classic Arabic word �shuAAayban��

�shuAAayban� definition:

A leathern water-bag; or one that has been repaired, or pieced: or one that is made of two hides: or one that is made of two hides facing each other: or one that is pieced with a third skin, between the two skins, that it may be rendered wider: or one that is made of two pieces joined together: or one that is sewed on both sides: called thus because one part is joined to another.  Also an old, worn-out skin for water or milk: because it is pieced or repaired.  A camel�s saddle because it is joined part to part.  A man who is a stranger.  It comes from the root �sha�aba�, which means he collected; brought together; or drew together; or united a thing, anything or things, and a people or party; and he separated; put apart, or asunder; divided; disunited, or dispersed, or scattered a thing, anything or things, and a people or party � this having two contrary significations.  To separate, collect, appear, scatter, repair, impair, send (a message to), branch off.  A tribe.

References:

An Arabic-English Lexicon, E.W. Lane, volume four, pp. 1555 - 1558

The Dictionary of the Holy Qur�an, 1^st edition, Abdul Mannan Omar pp. 291 - 291

Occurrences of �shuAAayban� in the Koran: 7

Locations:  7.85, 7.90, 7.92(2x), 11.84, 11.94, 29.36

Occurrences of the root �sha�aba� and its 3 forms in the Koran:  13

Locations:  7.85, 7.88, 7.90, 7.92(2x), 11.84, 11.87, 11.91, 11.94, 26.177, 29.36, 49.13, 77.30

Is this the �Shu'aib� that you are referring to�.?

If so�.what definition would you like to go with�.?

Thanks�