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    Posted: 06 April 2005 at 5:38am
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Originally posted by blond blond wrote:

Do any of you believe it is possible to exist in the state of being in the Here After while we live, or before the Judgement of the World? If so, how is this achieved?

As for the existence of the hereafter, I believe yes and no - I'm not sure my stance at the moment, but leading towards yes direction. For me its called the next life (time).

To answer your question, and I'm not sure if this does, we cannot exist in the hereafter while we live this phyiscal existence, we cannot exist in two states of being at once.

I think. This is still under review my me - so nothing is concrete 

Thanks.

It occurred to me that Here After means, here after; Here (now, where we are) After (after the power of Shaitan's power to rule or influence on Earth).
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Originally posted by blond blond wrote:

Do any of you believe it is possible to exist in the state of being in the Here After while we live, or before the Judgement of the World? If so, how is this achieved?

As for the existence of the hereafter, I believe yes and no - I'm not sure my stance at the moment, but leading towards yes direction. For me its called the next life (time).

To answer your question, and I'm not sure if this does, we cannot exist in the hereafter while we live this phyiscal existence, we cannot exist in two states of being at once.

I think. This is still under review my me - so nothing is concrete 
~ Our feet are earthbound, but our hearts and our minds have wings ~
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I first heard that interpretation of the hereafter as being a dimensional
expansion of the present in an Indries Shas (sp?) book on sufism.

I find it an attractive and rather comforting idea. There used to be some
knowlegeable sufi types here, but I have not seen any posts since the
changeover.

DavidC
(who also finds the idea of sufis cussing at new software rather
comforting)
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The hereafter, if it exists, must be so different from this life that any who reach it would look back at our restricted life in this world as being quaint. The poor tools of understanding we have in this world are inadequate to understand any hereafter.

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Originally posted by Angel Angel wrote:

Hereafter for Heaven or hell, or both?

It is called the "HERE....... After".

I believe that Allah is currently living in the Here After. I have thought about this place in depth.

It must transcend time to be a place that is currently existing. However, there is a veil between us.

Do any of you believe it is possible to exist in the state of being in the Here After while we live, or before the Judgement of the World? If so, how is this achieved?
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Hereafter for Heaven or hell, or both?



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Do you believe that this generation will see the Hereafter?
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