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ak_m_f

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Topic: Im outa here for a while!
Posted: 15 June 2006 at 6:26pm

why u edited all ur post? did you got the visit from men in black ?

Muslima

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Posted: 15 June 2006 at 4:06pm

I was only beeing ironic by the way.....

Patty

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Posted: 15 June 2006 at 11:52am

Dear Suzanne,

If you are still interested, I have prepared a post which states my Catholic beliefs regarding idolatry. It is at the Islamic InterFaith Forum. The topic title is Idolatry.

God's Peace.

Edited by Patty

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amah

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Posted: 15 June 2006 at 12:40am

Dear sisters Patty and Suzanne,

If you wish to discuss this issue further , kindly start a thread in the appropriate section.

Thank you.

Allah is Sufficient as a Walee (Protector) and Allah is Sufficient as a Naseer (Helper).
(Surah An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #45)

Srya

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Posted: 14 June 2006 at 8:40pm

Dear Patty,

I thought this was the perfect opportunity to comment on something which is not related to the flag more on what you said regarding idolatry.

You wrote:"worship" an inanimate object is idolatry....a grievous sin.

I am glad to know you understand this. But what is your perception of idiolatry? First let me say I am curious what you think idolatry is? Perhaps the Golden Calf comes into mind? The story with Mousa pbuh?

As I can tell you already know in Christianity all idiolatry is wrong. But, I have another question which is:When you pray to God what picture comes in your head if any? Perhaps Jesus pbuh? Most all Christian faiths pray to God thru Jesus pbuh right? If your answer is "Yes" when you do pray to God a picture of what you think Jesus pbuh looks comes in your head. So, please explain how do you differentiate that as not being idiolatry? How do you know what he looks like? Even your picture you have on this website which is supposed to represent Jesus pbuh and Mary God be pleased with her how is that not a form of idiolatry?

You do not need a golden object to bow and pray to,to only comment idiolatry. Many Christians even in my Catholic Family prays to God thru objects (pictures in their heads etc) and they don't see that as a greivous sin, but it is.

I hope I maybe helped in your quest for the truth. Inshallah (If God Bless)

Patty

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Posted: 14 June 2006 at 1:15pm

Muslima said:

"(they worship their flag!)"

No, we don't "worship" our flag. I have no idea where you got that, but it is incorrect, as I have posted under another thread. We honor our flag in memory of those dear friends and relatives who gave their lives fighting for our country. To "worship" an inanimate object is idolatry....a grievous sin. Americans do not worship the flag. Just a little correction here.

God's Peace.

Patty

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Posted: 13 June 2006 at 6:46am

If you keep faith, you are a victory to yourself. God does not need us, we are the ones who need Him.

This is what I meant Marya.

You need to embrace Islam for what it is, not for its followers because they are often divided on some issues.

Allah marak,

Muslima

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Posted: 13 June 2006 at 6:38am

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Edited by Maryah

"Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.

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ak_m_f Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 15 October 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3272	Topic: Im outa here for a while! Posted: 15 June 2006 at 6:26pm
	why u edited all ur post? did you got the visit from men in black ?

Muslima Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group Joined: 10 June 2006 Status: Offline Points: 562	Posted: 15 June 2006 at 4:06pm
	I was only beeing ironic by the way.....

Patty Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 14 September 2001 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2382	Posted: 15 June 2006 at 11:52am
	Dear Suzanne, If you are still interested, I have prepared a post which states my Catholic beliefs regarding idolatry. It is at the Islamic InterFaith Forum. The topic title is Idolatry. God's Peace. Edited by Patty
	Patty I don't know what the future holds....but I know who holds the future.

amah Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Female Joined: 18 March 2006 Status: Offline Points: 1334	Posted: 15 June 2006 at 12:40am
	Dear sisters Patty and Suzanne, If you wish to discuss this issue further , kindly start a thread in the appropriate section. Thank you.
	Allah is Sufficient as a Walee (Protector) and Allah is Sufficient as a Naseer (Helper). (Surah An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #45)

Srya Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 27 February 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 140	Posted: 14 June 2006 at 8:40pm
	Dear Patty, I thought this was the perfect opportunity to comment on something which is not related to the flag more on what you said regarding idolatry. You wrote:"worship" an inanimate object is idolatry....a grievous sin. I am glad to know you understand this. But what is your perception of idiolatry? First let me say I am curious what you think idolatry is? Perhaps the Golden Calf comes into mind? The story with Mousa pbuh? As I can tell you already know in Christianity all idiolatry is wrong. But, I have another question which is:When you pray to God what picture comes in your head if any? Perhaps Jesus pbuh? Most all Christian faiths pray to God thru Jesus pbuh right? If your answer is "Yes" when you do pray to God a picture of what you think Jesus pbuh looks comes in your head. So, please explain how do you differentiate that as not being idiolatry? How do you know what he looks like? Even your picture you have on this website which is supposed to represent Jesus pbuh and Mary God be pleased with her how is that not a form of idiolatry? You do not need a golden object to bow and pray to,to only comment idiolatry. Many Christians even in my Catholic Family prays to God thru objects (pictures in their heads etc) and they don't see that as a greivous sin, but it is. I hope I maybe helped in your quest for the truth. Inshallah (If God Bless)

Patty Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 14 September 2001 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2382	Posted: 14 June 2006 at 1:15pm
	Muslima said: "(they worship their flag!)" No, we don't "worship" our flag. I have no idea where you got that, but it is incorrect, as I have posted under another thread. We honor our flag in memory of those dear friends and relatives who gave their lives fighting for our country. To "worship" an inanimate object is idolatry....a grievous sin. Americans do not worship the flag. Just a little correction here. God's Peace.
	Patty I don't know what the future holds....but I know who holds the future.

Muslima Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group Joined: 10 June 2006 Status: Offline Points: 562	Posted: 13 June 2006 at 6:46am
	If you keep faith, you are a victory to yourself. God does not need us, we are the ones who need Him. This is what I meant Marya. You need to embrace Islam for what it is, not for its followers because they are often divided on some issues. Allah marak, Muslima

mariyah Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 29 March 2006 Status: Offline Points: 1283	Posted: 13 June 2006 at 6:38am
	[ Edited by Maryah
	"Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.