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    Posted: 16 July 2005 at 7:55am

Paz y luz Khadija, Anjuman e Khaliqia is 2.2 million strong community going since 1751 - across Afghanistan, India & Pakistan. It was more of a race relations exercise after Ahmad Shah Abdal's incursion into the Panjaub.

My ancestor disagreed with the tall, light skinned agile Afghans' treatment of the local population. He packed in his sword, his uniform and resigned his position of the Afghan Pro-Consul of that area and, wandered the wilderness. He returned and preached equality of humans of every single kind.

The Foundation teaches all shades of people in their own religious flavours. It has 28 schools with Affection centres (not called orphanages) and a university should be commissioned this October.

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Originally posted by Israfil Israfil wrote:

I believe each monotheistic and even
some polytheistic faiths represent to some small extent of truth
of God, and the adherents the examples of that truth. Of course
the adherents of faith not always uphold the principles of God
on a truthful and rightous basis, but all it takes are the ones
who are rightous, who are merciful and who are the ones that
sit and contemplate the laws of God as they should be thought
of.


Israfil - I think that beyond contemplating the laws of God, believers need to follow them (you are probably implying this.)  Following them involves actions and sometime involves sacrifice.


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Originally posted by Israfil Israfil wrote:

On this note the famous quote
can be made here: "All truth is God's truth." Is this correct?

I highly doubt it. because all truth which also encompasses the
denial of God is not related to the truth of God, but the fact that
one can freely make such a statement to say "there is no God"
is very much relevant to the spiritual laws that exist within the
monotheistic traditions.


Israfil - greetings.
If there is no truth that is outside of God - if God encompasses all truth - then there would be no truth that encompasses the denial of God and so the orginal statement, "All truth is God's truth" would hold.

Simply because I can say "there is no God" does not make it so.  Just because I can say "2 + 2 = 5" does not make it true.

That I can say these false things is a fact, a truth.  But the content of what I am saying is still false.
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I would suggest to all to read the following article in view of brother Israfil's article. Probably he may also get some good food for thought for his book as well. Here is the link

http://www.islamicissues.info/essays/kzaheer/following%20isl am/religious_tolerance_an_islamic_perspective.html

 

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Assalamu Alaikum,

Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

Secondly, I needed to know and understand my followers better - they belong to all these strings.

Whisper, would you please clearly explain what you mean by "I needed to know and understand my followers better" from the above quote?  I could assume this means that you are some kind of leader and not simply that your want to understand the religions of this world, however, since I am not one for trying to make assumptions so freely, I would greatly appreciate it if you would clarify your statement.  Thank you!

PAZ, Khadija

Say: 'My prayer and my rites, my living and my dying, are for Allah alone, the Lord of all the worlds. (Qur'an, 6:162)
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Yaar Community I have read that one. It still needs deciphering. Could you please mail me the code?
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I think it is a great post too, may i suggest to you to read "The way to peace in Jerusalem" which i posted on the middle east forum?
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