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Caringheart
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Posted: 02 March 2012 at 4:00pm |
Well spoken. |
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memyselfn
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yes you are right. the best you can fight for is jihad against one's desire 'jihad-e-nafs' and not the other way round.
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kerryp
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agreed...
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Sign*Reader
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This was just a pipe dream...
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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.
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AiQadr
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Angela's plan sounds good. I hope it catches on. But, really. It depends on a modicum of good will that is nowhere present on the present political scene. Do you trust the World Bank to administer anything? (Read "Globalization and Its Discontents.") Besides, why on earth would the U.S. pull out? (Yeah, yeah. They pulled the "combat troops" out. They'll be right back as soon as the puppet there has a couple of strings break.) The U.S. Embassy complex there is the largest in the world. The country is positioning itself for the coming oil war and "popular sovereignty" be damned. Sorry.
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MAHDI
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everybody that the one of Iraq, is a false one of lies, and was the invasion by I refuel and control of the zone, everybody that all the controls and intelligence norteamerican has falseado all documents and tests. and that the killer May and terrorist of the world is the america United States. the unica form to be able to gain these terrorists of the world, is to be united people and to fight, and paises arabes tendran that to rise against their corrupt gobenantes, already is hour to fight but, that this does not walk forwards, for that reason we are enslaved of the United States the world, of the greater assassin and terrorist of history, bloodthirsty and thieves.
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Angel
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Sign reader, since your posts from the 16 December 07, I'm wondering what have they got to do with Angela's plan ?
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~ Our feet are earthbound, but our hearts and our minds have wings ~
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Sign*Reader
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The false statements dramatically increased in August 2002, with congressional consideration of a war resolution, then escalated through the mid-term elections and spiked even higher from January 2003 to the eve of the invasion. (click for chart version) It was during those critical weeks in early 2003 that the president delivered his State of the Union address and Powell delivered his memorable U.N. presentation. For all 935 false statements, including when and where they occurred, go to the search page for this project; the methodology used for this analysis is explained here. In addition to their patently false pronouncements, Bush and these seven top officials also made hundreds of other statements in the two years after 9/11 in which they implied that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or links to Al Qaeda. Other administration higher-ups, joined by Pentagon officials and Republican leaders in Congress, also routinely sounded false war alarms in the Washington echo chamber. The cumulative effect of these false statements -- amplified by thousands of news stories and broadcasts -- was massive, with the media coverage creating an almost impenetrable din for several critical months in the run-up to war. Some journalists -- indeed, even some entire news organizations -- have since acknowledged that their coverage during those prewar months was far too deferential and uncritical. These mea culpas notwithstanding, much of the wall-to-wall media coverage provided additional, "independent" validation of the Bush administration's false statements about Iraq. The "ground truth" of the Iraq war itself eventually forced the president to backpedal, albeit grudgingly. In a 2004 appearance on NBC's Meet the Press, for example, Bush acknowledged that no weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq. And on December 18, 2005, with his approval ratings on the decline, Bush told the nation in a Sunday-night address from the Oval Office: "It is true that Saddam Hussein had a history of pursuing and using weapons of mass destruction. It is true that he systematically concealed those programs, and blocked the work of U.N. weapons inspectors. It is true that many nations believed that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. But much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong. As your president, I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq. Yet it was right to remove Saddam Hussein from power." Bush stopped short, however, of admitting error or poor judgment; instead, his administration repeatedly attributed the stark disparity between its prewar public statements and the actual "ground truth" regarding the threat posed by Iraq to poor intelligence from a Who's Who of domestic agencies. On the other hand, a growing number of critics, including a parade of former government officials, have publicly -- and in some cases vociferously -- accused the president and his inner circle of ignoring or distorting the available intelligence. In the end, these critics say, it was the calculated drumbeat of false information and public pronouncements that ultimately misled the American people and this nation's allies on their way to war. Bush and the top officials of his administration have so far largely avoided the harsh, sustained glare of formal scrutiny about their personal responsibility for the litany of repeated, false statements in the run-up to the war in Iraq. There has been no congressional investigation, for example, into what exactly was going on inside the Bush White House in that period. Congressional oversight has focused almost entirely on the quality of the U.S. government's pre-war intelligence -- not the judgment, public statements, or public accountability of its highest officials. And, of course, only four of the officials -- Powell, Rice, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz -- have testified before Congress about Iraq. Short of such review, this project provides a heretofore unavailable framework for examining how the U.S. war in Iraq came to pass. Clearly, it calls into question the repeated assertions of Bush administration officials that they were the unwitting victims of bad intelligence. Above all, the 935 false statements painstakingly presented here finally help to answer two all-too-familiar questions as they apply to Bush and his top advisers: What did they know, and when did they know it? Edited by Sign*Reader |
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