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    Posted: 06 October 2006 at 12:04pm

Music is beautiful. It is very healthy and even the birds sing God's praises.

Drugs I would steer clear of since they do tend to upset the body's equilibrium if they are not needed.  Wholesome eating and drinking that supports our body's good health are better.  Regular and frequent prayer and fulfilling the duties as set out in the Quran seem to me to be the best way to be closer to God.

God is the best of judges.

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My bad I just read what this forum is for, ill move it.
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I honestly dont like when muslims become too fundamental and conservative. It really sickens me. They say you must pray every rakat, even sunnah. They say that if you eat medicine, then you will break your fast. They say that women who dont wear hijabs will burn in hell for doing so, even if they practice and believe. They say that kufaars wil burn in hell forever, even if they were nice people.

Would Allah really be this mean? I don't think so. Who would be mean enough to put someone in that much torture forever unless he is as bad as satan himself? Of course they will go to hell, if they were nice then not so torturous, then they will come out and live in the lowest of heavens, yet still a heaven. This is what I believe. Not just People of the book, everybody. Its really not their fault that they were Hindu, or Christian, or Jewish, or Athiest, unless they converted to. It was the culture and family they were raised with that put in their brains, sort of like being brainwashed but without ever having anything in the beginning. If Allah did send another religion down, hypothetically speaking, and it was really the true word of god, then would you believe in that religion? No of course not. You believe that this is the last religion. So do Christians and Jews, and others, they believe this because of what the Old and New Testament say. They dont believe there is another religion after theirs. Of course these writings have changed, but do they think that? No. If our Koran had been changed in the 11th century, and it has been changed to say that alcohol was allowed, would we know? If we did, why would anyone believe it? Hypothetically speaking.

Although those people will have to face some punishment because they are not really muslims, I dont think it will be a serious one, if they were good people and truly respected a god. At least if the are monotheistic, you must give me. Muslims will be treated the same way, but being a muslim, it acts as having more rewards than others.

I also want to make the point, doing anything, even drugs, even those that intoxicate, are NOT haraam, IFit does not steer your mind away from god, or if it does less damage then good, or if it is unsignificant damage, like gives you constipation or headaches or something. Remember, it applies to EVERYTHING.

Also, why do many muslims believe that sufi people are not true or 100% correct muslims? Theyre ritual dancing makes just as much sense as our Dikr. It is a form of meditation. Muhammad (pbuh) meditated himself. So did Jesus (pbuh). Many other profets as well (pbut). In fact they will recieve rewards because they are trying to get closer to god, as we do when praying or doing Dikr. Though they do have to pray. It is not a replacement for praying. What other practice do Sufis commit wrong. I dont see any. Even using drugs in their rituals, it is not haraam, because it doesnt fall under either of the two requirements listed above. It brings them closer infact, and does not harm them.

I also want to bring this big one up, that I believe in veeeeery strongly. I would please like to know what is wrong with music that does not inspire you to do bad things. How could allah forbid it. It is unavoidable, and natural. There is nothing better than hearing music. Ofcourse if it is a song about saying how god is bs and doesnt edxist, god forgive them, then it is ofcourse haraam, unless you are hearing it to see what they are saying, not for enjoyment or insight.

This is what I believe. Comments please. Don't hesitate to disagree.
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