Great love for jesus led me to Islaam

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AhmadJoyia Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2005 Status: Offline Points: 1647	Post Options Post Reply Quote AhmadJoyia Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Great love for jesus led me to Islaam Posted: 23 June 2005 at 6:47am
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hkrespect Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 20 March 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 52	Post Options Post Reply Quote hkrespect Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 June 2005 at 6:15am
	dear verify good question
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verify Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 21 February 2005 Status: Offline Points: 13	Post Options Post Reply Quote verify Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 June 2005 at 2:48am
	Salaams, Where is the English Translation/link of this book? http://www.geocities.com/hosseincaraballo/ ??? verify

varshaken Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 19 May 2005 Status: Offline Points: 70	Post Options Post Reply Quote varshaken Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 June 2005 at 8:48am
	Hi AhmadJoyia!!!!!!!!!! You are interesting Mr.AhmadJoyia. I have given you entire freedom regarding replying. I never forced you to reply. But you said that I was running away when you asked questions. But what are you doing now? When you cannot answer, you are just running away. I have read the discussion you were talking about with Sanjiv. Sanjiv is giving you a source totally alien, written by some western writer. I pity Sanjiv. He would be now asked about the authentication of everything he says and he has to prove everything he says. Yet finally you say that Buddhism is full of tales.:( Remember, I did not REJECT your request. I only postponed it. You need someone who yield to you. You dont want to learn any religion, you just want to "prove" others that what they are following is not good. You will never succeed. God is the nearest. He knows best.:) So it clearly shows that you are just leaving because you cannot answer. You dont know what spiritual truths are and you say that Koran is full of spiritual truths or truthful explanations. I did not think that my questions were so heavy that a follower of the "True Religion" cannot explain. Varshaken, the Samurai.

AhmadJoyia Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2005 Status: Offline Points: 1647	Post Options Post Reply Quote AhmadJoyia Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 June 2005 at 8:08am
	My Dear Brother Varshaken, I am sadly disappointed on my rejection of request to you for certain questions that would have benefitted me (atleast). Since you chose not to reply to them despite my repeated requests, I can't go on with a one sided discussion, though my questions were clearly taking non-comparisonal approach in our discussions. However, I could see some others are interested in sharing their views with you such as amlhabibi2000, so I think you won't bother if I don't continue with this discussion. BTW, there is another thread where Brother Sanjiv has started a good discussion on Buddhaism, hope to see you there, if you like.

amlhabibi2000 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Guest Group Joined: 08 December 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 447	Post Options Post Reply Quote amlhabibi2000 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 June 2005 at 8:36pm
	*There is no need to be a philosopher or theologian. Spiritual truths are for everyone, otherwise we cannot reach God. Its everyones birthright to realise them.* I agree.....
	Judgement day passes in the moment we decide something needs attention & we take positive action. Then there will be a great sorting out of people into groups, Inspired by Surah 99 Ayat 1-8

varshaken Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 19 May 2005 Status: Offline Points: 70	Post Options Post Reply Quote varshaken Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 June 2005 at 8:01pm
	Hi Mr.AhmadJoyia!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for answering. We shall discuss about Buddhism after I know about Islaam. I have told you about it. Please dont feel sad or angry about it. I am here to learn about Islaam, not to discuss about any other. Dont be annoyed by my questions because they may seem repetitive. You say its your personal opinion. I have nothing against it. What do you mean by "not observable, measurable"? Do you mean not observable by the five senses? But we have more than five senses. The five senses are for the physical world. We have the subconscious mind, the sixth sense. Why cant we use it. Everyone has the sixth sense, everyone has intuition. What do you mean by "repeatable"? I really did not understand what you mean by "repeatable". If you say anything to be a truth, it should be repeatable because it is always there. Only truth can exist, nothing else can. Please can you be elaborative about your view. There is no need to be a philosopher or theologian. Spiritual truths are for everyone, otherwise we cannot reach God. Its everyones birthright to realise them. Thanking you, Varshaken, the Samurai.

AhmadJoyia Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 20 March 2005 Status: Offline Points: 1647	Post Options Post Reply Quote AhmadJoyia Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 June 2005 at 2:20pm
	Ok, Bro Varshaken, I shall begin as unusual, with replies to your questions and then, in the end may request some answers from you. Your foremost question is concerning "spiritual truth". I think I have already provided a very detailed and elaborative reply to these questions in my earlier posts. However, repeating again, if it make sense for someone is all what is needed. By "spiritual truth", I mean (as per my personal opinion) anything that is not observable, measureable and hence not repeatable. In the same token, hence, can't be realised by everyone simply because its not observable not measureable and hence not repeatable. Since I am not a philosopher or theologian, hence can't say anything more than this. Though this veiw may not be very precise, but it would be interesting to see what alternate definitions are for this. Now coming to my question, can you explain how you acquire your knowledge from your teacher especially when you say that Gotam Buddha is your teacher Viz a Viz you also mentioned that he is not dead and had just left his body centuries ago?