Music-Singing and Media?

Andalus wrote: Greetings. Music is one of the issues that you will find two schools of thought on. Arab gave a great reply to the topic. Here are a couple of links I gave that were meant to provide another perspective on the subject: http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7278& ; ;PN=2 http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7277& ; ;PN=2 My opinion is that with all of the greater problems facing Muslims, and with the many other clear requirements that Muslims should be doing but do not do, Music is something trivial. You will find some great thinkers say it is ok, and you will find some arguments that say it is at least disliked, and some will say it is unlawful. I tend to go with the first two of the conclusions.

Thanks for the reply Andalus,

And thanks for the links,I will go over them.Yes I am aware of the greater issues involving the ummah as awhole.Yet we are judged according to our own deeds not those of our community or other people.So we should be concerned,in what we do.

Peace!

Jerry

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From the Quran:

"But there are, among men, those who purchase idle tales, without knowledge (or meaning), to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah and throw ridicule (on the Path): for such there will be a humiliating Penalty." [31:6]

Lead to destruction those whom thou canst among them, with thy (seductive) voice, make assaults on them with thy cavalry and thy infantry; mutually share with them wealth and children; and make promises to them. "But Satan promises them nothing but deceit." 17:64

"Do ye then wonder at this recital? And will ye laugh and not weep. Wasting your time in vanities?" 53: 59-61

Allah says, "..for such there will be a humiliating Penalty ." for those who replaces the Qur�an with idle tales.(not sure what ayat or surah this is from)

These ayat's don't mention music,idles tales could be anything,for example mytholgies,Books,or tall tales that one buys,dont think they had CD's or tapes back then.

A seductive voice could imply the person is good at decieving people.Hence the reference to Satan promises nothing but deciet/lies.

53:59-61 mentions a recital,does that mean that all recitals are sinful?I dont think so.

And the last one says those who REPLACE the Quran with idle tales.Once again probably mythologies or stories from false religions.

Sayings of the Prophet:

The prophet (sallah allahu alieh wasalam) said "There will be in my ummah those who make it halal (permissible) adultery/fornication, silk, alcohol and musical instruments."

From this hadeeth I see Muhammad mentions musical intruments,but was he referring to all musical intruments or just to the ones mentioned as haram?Must be instruments that were already considered haram,because one cant make halal instruments halal,they are already halal.

Again Muhammad,mentions musical intruments but devilish instruments.Was he referring to all instruments?

And it mentions singing that is accompanied by misery,scraping of the face amd shredding the clothe,so must be referring to mourning.

And what about:

We learn from that hadith that the prophet (sallah allahu alieh wasalam) heard the duff play, meaning its not haram. Therefore, it is not haram upon men to hear it even though it was known that men never played it.

The instruments mentioned were haram,but Muhammed is said to have allowed them.Did he change his mind?

Either they are haraam or they are not? If it were okay on the day of eid to use the duff which was forbidden,then why not in praise of God?

Im not getting where Islaam has no burdens or is not hard? Either something is allowed or its not? If singing and instruments are from satan then they are wrong no matter what,if they are allowed then they are okay,as long as they are not used in the wrong ways.Thats simple.Forgive me,I am not meaning to seem hard headed or anything,Im simple trying to understand..

And the translations from the Quran and the hadeeth above are the only referrences to what people use..that was supposedly referring to music in the Quran or statements made by Muhammad.Not counting what people later said about them.

Another thing, doesnt the Quran state that we are to follow Only God's word the Quran and what the prophet says?Does it also say we must follow the interpretations of people that lived yrs later?

Peace!

Jerry