Challenging Questions about Islam

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Assalamu alaykum

Brother minuteman problem is not with understanding this particular ayaah because if you read it in its context you can clearly see that it refers to Sayyidina Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wassalam. Brother QheQ first mentioned the verse [81:19] Most surely it is the Word of an honored messenger', which does mean Jibrail alayhissalaam, if you read the ayaat following it (i have explained on the previious page).

I dont know whether brother is really confused himself that he forgot which ayaah he wanted to know explanation of or was he just trying to catch us out that he was asking about one and then later refering to the other one.

But as brother has dropped it, i think we should move on in a hope that inshaAllah we all be sincere in our learning and not play the words game.

wassalam

 

  There is in the posts above the following:

 [69:40] Most surely, it is the Word brought by an honored Messenger,
[69:41] And it is not the word of a poet; little is it that you believe;
[69:42] Nor the word of a soothsayer; little is it that you mind.

It surely means Rasool as in Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wassalam in these ayaat. I am sure you must have heard the expression, 'kahin ki eentt kahin ka rodrha' (sorry not trying to be rude to non urdu speaking people but cant find a better expression in english)

 What is the problem here? We all need some understanding. Does some one believe that the word "rasool un kareem" here in verse 69:40 means "The angel Jibreel a.s."? I want to know that.Please inform whois suggesting that meaning.... Thanks.

 

QheQ wrote: Remembering the last verse of Al-Kaafiroon, I would sure end it here. I do not claim to be pious at all. But people, i hope, are wise enough to see the piety of the pious. God bless us all

It is true that the last phrase of the Al-Kafiroon

"109.6 . Unto you your religion , and unto me my religion ."

Applies to all, so our religion is Islam what is your? instead of trying to mislead us, which is impossible, try and open your heart and logic and think again.

It is good that you have chosen to end it hoping that you will realize one day what Almighty God means when he says:

2.8 . And of mankind are some who say : We believe in Allah and the Last Day , when they believe not .

2.9 . They think to beguile Allah and those who believe , and they beguile nonesave themselves ; but they perceive not .

2.10 . In their hearts is a disease , and Allah increaseth their disease . A painful doom theirs because they lie .

At the  end thank you all and remember :


16.125 . Call unto the way of thy Lord with wisdom and fair exhortation , and reason with them in the better way . Lo! thy Lord is best aware of him who strayeth from His way , and He is Best Aware of those who go aright .

Wa alsalam

QheQ wrote: Ok, let me admit and try to be in a more learning stance. Just please clarify why Hadith should be believed as authentic in the presence of the following Quranic assertions: 1. Indeed this is the saying of the prophet 2. (45:4-6): Then which 'hadith' after Allah and His verses do they believe? 3. (47:24): Then do they not ponder over the Quran... Waiting for the answer. Regards

QheQ is either playing with words or he does not understand Arabic, If he is sincere then this should put an end to his questioning:

�Indeed this is the saying of the prophet� it is a wrong translation of (Innaho laqowl Rasoolin Kareem�

In Arabic �Rasool� means messenger and �Kareem� means Honorable and truthful so the correct translation is

�81.19. That this is in truth the word of an honored messenger; 81.20. Mighty, established in the presence of the Lord of the Throne; 81.21 . ( One ) to be obeyed , and trustworthy ;�

Now messenger usually delivers a message and if he is an Honorable and truthful messenger, then he will deliver the exact message that is passed on to him, it was not a paper, it was �Qawl� which means say, so it was the say of God almighty delivered to Mohamed (the Honorable and truthful messenger) who passed it over to us truthfully.

 2. (45:4-6): Then which 'hadith' after Allah and His verses do they believe?

I hope you not trying to deceive Moslems and non-Moslems by changing the wording an picking specific words to distract every body and create an issue of it:

The true phrase came in Al-Jatheya; After Almighty God speaks about the wonders of his creations see below:

45.1 . Ha . Mim .

45.2 . The revelation of the Scripture is from Allah , the Mighty , the Wise .

45.3 . Lo! in the heavens and the earth are portents for believers .

45.4 . And in your creation , and all the beasts that He scattered in the earth , are portents for a folk whose faith is sure .

45.5 . And the difference of night and day and the provision that Allah sendeth down from the sky and thereby quickeneth the earth after her death , and the ordering of the winds , are portents for a people who have sense .

45.6 . These are the portents of Allah which We recite unto thee (Muhammad) with truth . Then in what fact , after Allah and His portents , will they believe?

So it is not Hadiths it is FACTS after Al-Mighty God you believe. Stop playing around

 

3. (47:24): Then do they not ponder over the Quran...

Also why don�t you be honest in translating and finish the Aya (phrase) the correct one is this:

47.24 . Will they then not meditate on the Quran , or are there locks on the hearts?

 

I don�t know what that has to do with Hadiths, now I believe that there are locks on your heart, kindly try to open it.

 

Walsalam