Another Jew at the Helm of World Bank!!!

You are not real Islam, therefore, we are free to disagree with you.

Brother Israfil, that's sad. Please don't say that to the only wholesale Merchant of Basic Islamic knowledge on our site. Or, even perhaps, in the whole wide world. 

You simply can not disagree with them. What do you and I know of Islam, they own it, lock, stock and barrel.

Israfil

To you real islam is an illusion. Means no real Islam exist in anyway or shape. Means we have to invent rather innovate our religion. Means every region/state has to have their own version of Islamic teaching. Means polarization and balkanization of this creed. And those who try to cite right concept of islam and stop this mayhem are lest st**id!!.  This is what we called liberals/ progressive Islam!!!.  Amina Waduud and its ilks tried to sing Kumbaya all the way to Congress and Media.  

Listen, this is not judging people. We live a culture of fear where many with arrogancy is trying to excercise their made Islam with impunity. An American mentality that want to question everything including basic tenet of Islam and have affirmative action in Islam.

Israfil, the message of Islam came similar or worst to such world, where people alters the basic thinking of humanity. If someone advice you or recftiy some of your shortcoming in balatant language -which sometimes permissible in Islam-  you may question the language been used to convey the message but you have no right -as you did most-  to reject the very Islamic truth you badly need to know.

What you missing again and again is Islam comes from its real source not people's customs and wishes. You carry this guilty feeling and you want accomadate as many as you can without regarding the basic truth of Islam. This is what is called liberal or political incorrect etc. These terms come into muslim debate right after 9/11.  One of the pioneers of this doomed venture is Siraj Wahaj who lost respect of many muslims. He went to Hannity/Cohlms FoX show and trashed some basics of this religion without shame. Most of your post here are on of that self defeatest mentality.

In this culture of fear, its better for you -since you are law enforcement officer!!!! - to talk about gang/drug prevention programs, domestic voilence and how Islam protect women right/dignity, rec programs, education apportunities, jobs, discrimination,  rights, grants and skills muslim immigrants to acquire etc. Instead you throw yourself in midst of Islam, altering most of the true meaning of Islam.

Again, I really advice you to have a sunni respected sheikh to teach you Islam.

Abu Mujahid

Israfil wrote: Abu, You need to get your head out of the "cANAL" hole and stop thinking, because they disagree with you they disagree with "real Islam." You are not real Islam, therefore, we are free to disagree with you. It's called the "real world." People will agree or disagree with you. You must understand that the general population [most of us progressive thinkers and ratgional people] disagree with you. Get over it and move on bro.

Israfil,

I'm not real Islam and I never said as such though I'm trying to stay on Quran and Hadith path. Moreover, I am glad you come out from your hole. I knew from the begining that you were progressive liberals . What bothers me and others was/is your futile attempt to rewrite Islam in the context of American prespective culture.  Not only you openly belittle real Islam when Quran and clear cut Hadith speaks loud, you show disrespect anyone who stand in front of you peacefully.

We embeded to disagree in human setting but that shouldn't alter the core of real Islam. That is why you guys fail to get it. You stuck with this political incorrect self defeatist thinking and you want from Islam to justify your kumbaya business. 

I advice you to read Islam from its real source. 

Abu Mujahid 

Whisper wrote: Abu why are you being such a knucklehead? Manufacturing defect or some virus in his software. Preaching humility, quoting anything and everything and practicing sheer hatred. Our Grand Sole Merchant of basic Islamic Knowledge

Whisper,

No doubt you are among few progressive liberals I come across who hate real Islam. Enjoy it.

Abu Mujahid