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 Posted: 30 March 2008 at 11:06am |
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Abraham did not sin. Please prove that it was a sin. |
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A feeling of discouragement when you slip up is a sure sign that you put your faith in deeds. -Ibn 'Ata'llah
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Posted: 01 April 2008 at 8:11am |
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Genesis 2 24 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh There is to be one man and one woman in marriage. GOD's promise, the covenant is sacred. Do you have covenants in Islam? They are not to be broken. Genesis 171 When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the LORD appeared to him and said, "I am God Almighty; walk before me and be blameless. 2 I will confirm my covenant between me and you and will greatly increase your numbers."3 Abram fell facedown, and God said to him, 4 "As for me, this is my covenant with you: You will be the father of many nations. 5 No longer will you be called Abram ; your name will be Abraham, for I have made you a father of many nations. 6 I will make you very fruitful; I will make nations of you, and kings will come from you. 7 I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you. ... 15 God also said to Abraham, "As for Sarai your wife, you are no longer to call her Sarai; her name will be Sarah. 16 I will bless her and will surely give you a son by her. I will bless her so that she will be the mother of nations; kings of peoples will come from her." ... 17 Abraham fell facedown; he laughed and said to himself, "Will a son be born to a man a hundred years old? Will Sarah bear a child at the age of ninety?" 18 And Abraham said to God, "If only Ishmael might live under your blessing!" 19 Then God said, "Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac. I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. 20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. 21 But my covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you by this time next year." |
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16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. |
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minuteman
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Posted: 01 April 2008 at 9:32am |
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The topic is wandering from chastity to sinful life. I cannot understand the chastity of the christians who feel the natural relationship of a wife and husband is also a sin. That is quite unnatural and untrue. A chaste woman will have relations only with her husband and vice versa. And when the husband and wife engage in intercourse, they are still chaste. The church theory is altogether un-natural. Also the report about the original sin was bad. That original sin was needed by the church so that they could use use Jesus as a scapegoat (Atonement). |
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Posted: 03 April 2008 at 7:03pm |
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LOL! minuteman - natural relationship of a wife and husband is GOOD. We agree completely on this. Abraham and Sarah did not wait patiently for GOD to fulfill His promise to them of a child. Have you read the whole story? Read it and you will understand. |
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Posted: 04 April 2008 at 5:30am |
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Have you admitted that natural relationship between husband and wife is not sin?? Do you believe it please?? |
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Posted: 04 April 2008 at 3:16pm |
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1 husband and 1 wife, monogamy Genesis 2 24 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
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Andalus
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Posted: 05 April 2008 at 6:57pm |
There was not sin in taking a second mate, in fact, the verse does not describe any sin, only that Arabahm chose a course of action legal to him. |
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A feeling of discouragement when you slip up is a sure sign that you put your faith in deeds. -Ibn 'Ata'llah
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Posted: 08 April 2008 at 10:29am |
Genesis 224 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.From the very beginning it was against GOD's law to have more then one spouse. Matthew 532But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery. It is really too bad Muslims can't read the through the entire Holy Bible. I think it would help you understand your Muslim faith. |
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