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    Posted: 08 April 2008 at 4:27pm

Since I started reading the Bible, I am puzzled by its contents. This time its the commands God is quoted to give to Joshua. I am appalled that God would be so unjust to command and aid this kind of behavior.

Joshua 8:1-2

Now the LORD said to Joshua: �Do not be afraid, nor be dismayed; take all the people of war with you, and arise, go up to Ai. See, I have given into your hand the king of Ai, his people, his city, and his land.  And you shall do to Ai and its king as you did to Jericho and its king. Only its spoil and its cattle you shall take as booty for yourselves. Lay an ambush for the city behind it.�

And here is what was done in Jericho.

Joshua 6:20 So the people shouted when the priests blew the trumpets. And it happened when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat. Then the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city. And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, ox and sheep and donkey, with the edge of the sword.
22 But Joshua had said to the two men who had spied out the country, �Go into the harlot�s house, and from there bring out the woman and all that she has, as you swore to her.� 23 And the young men who had been spies went in and brought out Rahab, her father, her mother, her brothers, and all that she had. So they brought out all her relatives and left them outside the camp of Israel. 24 But they burned the city and all that was in it with fire. Only the silver and gold, and the vessels of bronze and iron, they put into the treasury of the house of the LORD. 25 And Joshua spared Rahab the harlot, her father�s household, and all that she had. So she dwells in Israel to this day, because she hid the messengers whom Joshua sent to spy out Jericho.
26 Then Joshua charged them at that time, saying, �Cursed be the man before the LORD who rises up and builds this city Jericho; he shall lay its foundation with his firstborn, and with his youngest he shall set up its gates.�
27 So the LORD was with Joshua, and his fame spread throughout all the country.

I learn and believe through Quran that God commands justice and restraint, and does not order indiscrminate destruction of life and property as represented in these verses of the Bible or am I misreading them?

Hasan

 



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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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In the Old Testament GOD often seems harsh when dealing with those opposed to the Israelites.  GOD's plan has always involved keeping the chosen people free from harm.
 
This is just one of many historical accounts were GOD protects His people.  Did you see that Rehab was spared?  She had helped the Israelites.
John 3
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Hi believer,
what about the innocent young and old. And what was the fault of those poor animals, ox and sheep and donkey??
 
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And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, ox and sheep and donkey, with the edge of the sword.
 
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Originally posted by believer believer wrote:

In the Old Testament GOD often seems harsh when dealing with those opposed to the Israelites.  GOD's plan has always involved keeping the chosen people free from harm.
 
This is just one of many historical accounts were GOD protects His people.  Did you see that Rehab was spared?  She had helped the Israelites.
 
Is this GOD Jesus?
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The story is all about trust and obeying GOD.  Who would kill a healthy animal?  They had to believe and trust in GOD.  It is very possible that the way the animals were raised was concidered impure.
 
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Joshua 7

Achan's Sin
 1 But the Israelites acted unfaithfully in regard to the devoted things; Achan son of Carmi, the son of Zimri,  the son of Zerah, of the tribe of Judah, took some of them. So the LORD's anger burned against Israel.
 
Remember we believe that all are potential sinners.
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LOL!!  ShastaAunt GOD's manifestation as Jesus had not yet appeared on earth, but Jesus always was.  Our GOD is a unity of ONE. 
 
I forgot to mention:

Joshua 6

26 At that time Joshua pronounced this solemn oath: "Cursed before the LORD is the man who undertakes to rebuild this city, Jericho:
       "At the cost of his firstborn son
       will he lay its foundations;
       at the cost of his youngest
       will he set up its gates."

Then read:
 
1 King's 16
 
34 In Ahab's time, Hiel of Bethel rebuilt Jericho. He laid its foundations at the cost of his firstborn son Abiram, and he set up its gates at the cost of his youngest son Segub, in accordance with the word of the LORD spoken by Joshua son of Nun.
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"LOL!!  ShastaAunt GOD's manifestation as Jesus had not yet appeared on earth, but Jesus always was.  Our GOD is a unity of ONE."
 
I was just wondering if this is the same Jesus/God who taught nothing but peace, love, and non-violence. 
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We all think of the violence as horrible, the only thing that we can rationalize in our simple human minds is that: 
 
The Israelites had to be kept safe at all cost, for God knew that it would be through the line of David that Jesus would come to earth. Jesus' resurrection is the greatest example of God's mercy, and so this act of mercy needed to be protected at all cost.
GOD owns life.  It is His to do with as He sees needed.  When lives are taken in natural disaster, He could save all.  Why doesn't He?
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