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Originally posted by Hayfa Hayfa wrote:

Sad to saythat people are not inclined tohelp marry the single people for fear of being "blamed" if the marriage turns out poorly.
 
The local Imam at a mosque here introduced me to a brother. And we met face ot facwe and hw told us to take it from there as he does not want to be responsible. I guess he expected us to date..lol
 
If your family is not helping you, or you don't have a Muslim family the road is tough going.
 
Patience and prayer are important.
 
Thats true Hayfa! because some ppl DO hold others responsible, for failed marriages.
 
Thats a trend increasing in the Pakistani society as well. Previousley, whenever people met singles, widows or divorcees, they would try thier utmost to find them a match, it was considered the ultimate 'good' act, and ppl were very genuine about it. Now however, people hesitate, for fear of appearing intrusive or bieng blamed for a failed marriage.
 
But if a Muslim or Muslimah is interested in pursuing another for marriage, yet feel shy. . . they could/should try and approach a friend, or ask another Muslim family to intervene and help the process.(like be present at meetings, anf find out about the guy)  Sometimes, if asked to, I think most would be willing and happy to help. . . because it overcomes the barrier of them feeling intrusive.
 
Also, since there are no other alternatives . . . meeting at a public place etc would not be considered dating, since marriage is bieng discussed.
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Salam alaikum ww friends
 
Wow I really enjoyed reading all of that, beautiful advice, the story of UmmSalama was amazing, thanks for sharing.
 
And sister, like the others have said, don't worry, you are not alone, inshala Allah sw will give you until you are well pleased, and know that He hasn't forgotten you nor does He hate you, read surah Duha if you wish, very comforting.
 
Inshala all will be just fine Smile
 
Regarding the hadith about marriage filling half ones deen/faith, yes I have heard of it and I hold it to be true, as far as I remember, the other half was to fear Allah.
 
Inshala by next Ramadan, you, as well as all the other single/widowed/divorced Muslims who want to get married will be wedded off, I need to eat some wedding sweets LOL
 
 
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[QUOTE=Hayfa]haha... no.. you know its the western lifestyle.. people are really just too busy.. and then the brother, who may become your wali, has to know you weel enough to then make adequate judgements.. and how does that happen?
 
People in general are more inclined to take a hands off approach.. there are a few people setting things up..
 
But me, I am not worried about it.. its in Allah's hands so to speak.
 
And the women are half afraid their husbands will want another wife.. .lol
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My wali was my best friend's husband. She knew me better than I knew myself...
 
Too bad you are not close to me, we have helped three sisters get married, Al HamdilAllah. But even with a wali you can end up with a lemon. People are not always as honest as they should be, so in the end it is all up to Allah.
 
I prayed Istikhara alot when I was single. Still not sure it worked Wink
 
 
 
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But even with a wali you can end up with a lemon.
Yes you can phrase it like that.. "lemon" lol
 
I agree with you on this. Know a number of sisters who went through this. And even a good friend, who was in good Muslim family got a "lemon" as the family completely lied and mis-represented who and what they were.
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Originally posted by Hayfa Hayfa wrote:

But even with a wali you can end up with a lemon.
Yes you can phrase it like that.. "lemon" lol
 
I agree with you on this. Know a number of sisters who went through this. And even a good friend, who was in good Muslim family got a "lemon" as the family completely lied and mis-represented who and what they were.
 
Too bad there aren't "lemon laws" on husbands like there are on cars. You know, you have 30 days to return for a full refund if it turns out to be a clunker.... Smile
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Originally posted by Hayfa Hayfa wrote:

 
I agree with you on this. Know a number of sisters who went through this. And even a good friend, who was in good Muslim family got a "lemon" as the family completely lied and mis-represented who and what they were.
 
Which reminds me of one of Islam's aspects . . . we all know that Gheebat i.e. Back-Biting is strongly frowned upon in Islam (talking negatively behind a person's back)
 
Did you know, that only case when a Muslim is 'allowed' to bring up something negative about another Muslim - behind thier back, is in cases of Marriage? Smile If a Muslimah/Muslim asks another about information on thier prospective spouse, they are supposed to tell the truth, whether it be negative or positive. I believe I read a hadith about it too, but I cannot remember - so dont quote me on that. But I'm pretty sure of it. If all Muslims did that, we wouldnt end up with, how you put it, 'lemons' :p
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ahh a husband lemon law!!! Yes, a great idea. lol
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Originally posted by Chrysalis Chrysalis wrote:

Originally posted by Hayfa Hayfa wrote:

 
I agree with you on this. Know a number of sisters who went through this. And even a good friend, who was in good Muslim family got a "lemon" as the family completely lied and mis-represented who and what they were.
 
Which reminds me of one of Islam's aspects . . . we all know that Gheebat i.e. Back-Biting is strongly frowned upon in Islam (talking negatively behind a person's back)
 
Did you know, that only case when a Muslim is 'allowed' to bring up something negative about another Muslim - behind thier back, is in cases of Marriage? Smile If a Muslimah/Muslim asks another about information on thier prospective spouse, they are supposed to tell the truth, whether it be negative or positive. I believe I read a hadith about it too, but I cannot remember - so dont quote me on that. But I'm pretty sure of it. If all Muslims did that, we wouldnt end up with, how you put it, 'lemons' :p
 
Salaams,
 
You are right, too bad it doesn't always happen that way. But sometimes I can almost understand why.
 
I knew a Sister here, she is living over seas now, who wanted my husband to check on a Brother for her. He did and got some very negative information from two men who had known the prospective groom for a long time. They told my husband that the Brother had a very bad temper so they would only tell him if the information remained anonymous from the Brother in question.
 
We set the Sister down and told her everything, including the fact that these two men did not want to be known by this Brother. She insisted on knowing who they were because she asked how could she completely trust them if she didn't know who was stating these things. She promised she would not tell the "groom" anything. My husband called the men and one older man said that it was fine as long as she knew but not him, so my husband told her. 
She immediately went back to the man she wanted to marry and told him everything, including the man's name and the Brother showed up at his restaurant wanting to physically fight this old man, and caused a big commotion.  It was a mess.  Then she married him anyway and within a month she wanted a divorce.
 
The whole incident put my husband and both men in a bad situation, so I can sort of understand people's fear of getting involved. But we were honest with her and she not only chose to marry him anyway, she caused alot of trouble in the process. At least our collective conscience was clear, which it would not have been if we hadn't told her the truth.
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