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    they were compilers...and later scholars have written books on rijal...u just wanna go off topic dont u??

How can i trust those books written by a scholar, hidden in a cave. 

.and wen i present a hadith, u wanna chk its authenticity...and i cant do that....how biased can u be... 

It was good of me, that by Allah's hidayah, i checked that hadith. Else how would u get caught, when you presented only last part of it. If you want me accept Ayesha RA, preserving the clothes of Prophet, then you shud also accept the first part of  that hadith.

Regarding Abu Hurayrah , May Allah 's mercy be upon him,  i know your accusations against him. And again its going to be the same un-ending discussion. Since i gave you a word that i shall be here, either till the topic gets closed or, one of us agrees with other's aqeedah, am here. Else, i would not have wasted my  time. Neither, i shall be accepting  your books nor will you. So there's no point of we meeting. Let's go on until, we either get bashed by mods or its closed.

well who shud i laugh on...i will give no explaination and just give a small gift....plzzz bro...dont spread the debate if u dont know the rules...plzzz..the truth is in front of u: 
"rather the clothes and belongings of the deceased are part of his estate, and his heirs are entitled to them; they may make use of them or sell them"  http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/102403 

Regarding clothes, thank you for letting me know that they come under inheritance. But here in Prophet;s case, i would regard it as  exception. If  u have read those hadiths, you would see, that the land of inheritance was a means of earning charity. And how would one earn any wealth by the clothes of Prophet ? 

Moreover, we made it clear thru our hadiths that since they {daughter and wives of Prophet}, did not know that hadith they demanded there share. But when they knew it, never did they demand again. We also get to read that Ali and Abu Bakr RA, had good relations with each other. Infact it was Asma Bint Abu Bakr and Ali RA, who performed ghusl of Fatima RA, after her death. After her death, Ali RA got married to Umar RA's daughter. They all had good relations with each other. Years after, due to the influence of Jews, few hypocrites started up framing stories and fabricated them. This is what we believe in, after going thru our authentic records.  We respect all the companions of Prophet and hold honour for all of them.

that means no body else knew about this hadith...

I did explain you that its not necessary that all knew the sayings at the same time. When the differences of opinions arised of where Prophet {Pbuh} was to be buried,  Abu Bakr RA, solved the dispute easily, by narrating the hadiths.Now read this par t of hadith , "The (present) people (i.e. 'Uthman and his companions) said, "O chief of the believers! Give your verdict in their case and relieve each from) the other." 'Umar said, "Wait I beseech you, by Allah, by Whose Permission both the heaven and the earth stand fast! Do you know that Allah's Apostle said, 'We (Prophets) our properties are not to be inherited, and whatever we leave, is to be spent in charity,' and he said it about himself?" They (i.e. 'Uthman and his company) said, "He did say it." This shows that , even Umar RA and 'Uthman, 'Abdur-Rahman bin Auf, AzZubair and Sad (bin Abi Waqqas),also k new this. 

bro do u think it is a show of power??? well where it is possible we mourn...going on streets does not show that the grief is more or less....about the death of H.Khadija, i think i dont really need to answer it...u knw the Prophet (a.s) mourned her death....just put 2+2=4..and the answer to it is YES!!! 
Do u get to read any where that Prophet {pbuh]  cried or wailed, even years after death of Khadijah RA. Yes, he did recall those times spent with her, but did not mourn over it. Do you get to read any such day wherein Prophet {pbuh} ever mourn of it. Its natural that we cannot forget our beloved ones. Islam does n;t prohibit recalling those times spent with them.

if mourning is an act of jahiliyah, then u have to accept that the deen u follow is not deen e fitrat(nature)....we mourn because we love them, and no ones forced to do an act... 
It is fitrah to get sad when our loved ones pass. Islam teaches us as how to face and behave at such times. There's a hadith that the deceased is tormented in the grave , because of the  wailings over him. Not more than 3 days, shud we mourn. Even we love Ali RA and his sons.But don't exaggerate them. Do you also mourn , commemorating Hamzah RA, uncle of Prophet's death. When is that day of mourning ? Read this hadith from Bukhari

Narrated Zainab bint Abi Salama : I went to Um Habiba, the wife of Prophet, who said, "I heard the Prophets saying, 'It is not legal for a woman who believes in Allah and the Last Day to mourn for any dead person for more than three days except for her husband, (for whom she should mourn) for four months and ten days'." Later I went to Zainab bint Jahsh when her brother died; she asked for some scent, and after using it she said, "I am not in need of scent but I heard Allah's Apostle saying, 'It is not legal for a woman who believes in Allah and the Last Day to mourn for more than three days for any dead person except her husband, (for whom she should mourn) for four months and ten days.' "  (Book #23, Hadith #371)

Edited by seekshidayath - 19 September 2008 at 8:34pm