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Dear Whisper,  Seeks is asking me some difficult questions, of course with your permission. Would you kindly help me with any verse of your Koran to defend the apostate? Please help. Thanks.
 
My absolutely dear Minuteman, just love your sense of humour! Have you ever seen me quoting anything from the Koran? In my entire existence here at the IC?
 
My friend that was the other Aquarian, a Punjaubi one, who had laid claim to prophethood (was it profithood?) not this one.
 
Please, ask your sidekick for help, he is superb at extracting exactly what he wants from the Koran and also from peoples' profiles. 


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  Whisper,  I am disappointed with you. You were complaining about H300 fellow that he was distorting the Koran. So I felt that you must have the right meanings of Quran. If you have nothing of the Quran then I will have to Seek some help from some where to defend the apostates. Thanks anyway for telling that you had nothing to do with the Koran here during your entire discussions.
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Originally posted by H3OO H3OO wrote:



"Ibni �Abbas relates that �Abdullah bin
Sa�d bin Abi Sarh used to be a scribe of the
Holy Prophetsa but was led astray by Satan and
he joined the non-believers. On the day of the
fall of Mecca, the Holy Prophetsa ordered that
he be killed. Hadrat �Uthmanra requested for his
pardon, which was approved and he was thus
forgiven."

"On the day of the fall of Mecca, the Holy
Prophetsa granted general pardon to all except four men and two women and said: kill them even if they are found seeking refuge clutching the drapes of the Ka�ba. [Their names were:] �Ikrama bin Abu Jahl, �Abdullah bin Khatal, Miqyas bin Subabata and �Abdullah bin Abi Sarh�"
 
Wht u posted is interesting . . . H300
 
Do you have any reference/sources for the hadith? i.e. reference no. or which hadith kitaab it belongs to (Bukhari etc) So one may know its reliablity . . .
 
Because if it is indeed a reliable hadith - then ur claim does make sense, i.e. apostasy is only punishable due to 'enemy status'. 
"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."
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Whisper,  I am disappointed with you. You were complaining about H300 fellow that he was distorting the Koran.
 
My friend, how will I ever thank you for such a compliment?
 
You were complaining about H300 fellow that he was distorting the Koran.
 
I have driven past the complain lane. I was merely pointing out his deep psychosis and the fact that he distorts not just the Koran BUT ALSO PEOPLES' PROFILES for his own agenda.
 
All of us are aware of that just excepting your good self.


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I thought you were proficient in english.
 
I never claimed that, ever. Though, English does flow in different shades. I am more used to the Queen's or, as they say, the BBC English.
 
Sorry, couldn't post it in the other thread as it has now been shut. I suggest, we must ask as many questions as we like from this chap as it seems that he is also going to be shut, soon.
 
I like your posts, but you will have to get used to my satirical style and sense of humour.


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Originally posted by Chrysalis Chrysalis wrote:

Originally posted by H3OO H3OO wrote:



"Ibni �Abbas relates that �Abdullah bin
Sa�d bin Abi Sarh used to be a scribe of the
Holy Prophetsa but was led astray by Satan and
he joined the non-believers. On the day of the
fall of Mecca, the Holy Prophetsa ordered that
he be killed. Hadrat �Uthmanra requested for his
pardon, which was approved and he was thus
forgiven." Sunan Abi Da�ud, Hadith No. 4358.

"On the day of the fall of Mecca, the Holy
Prophetsa granted general pardon to all except four men and two women and said: kill them even if they are found seeking refuge clutching the drapes of the Ka�ba. [Their names were:] �Ikrama bin Abu Jahl, �Abdullah bin Khatal, Miqyas bin Subabata and �Abdullah bin Abi Sarh�"  Sunan Al-Nasa�i, Hadith No. 4072.
 
Wht u posted is interesting . . . H300
 
Do you have any reference/sources for the hadith? i.e. reference no. or which hadith kitaab it belongs to (Bukhari etc) So one may know its reliablity . . .
 
Because if it is indeed a reliable hadith - then ur claim does make sense, i.e. apostasy is only punishable due to 'enemy status'. 


plz read above in red the references
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Wow.
 
Well. . .I donno wht to say.
 
Seeks, wht do u think of the ahadith?
"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."
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Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

I thought you were proficient in english.
 
I never claimed that, ever. Though, English does flow in different shades. I am more used to the Queen's or, as they say, the BBC English.
 
Sorry, couldn't post it in the other thread as it has now been shut. I suggest, we must ask as many questions as we like from this chap as it seems that he is also going to be shut, soon.
 
I like your posts, but you will have to get used to my satirical style and sense of humour.
 
Which is why I said, 'I thought' and not 'you claimed' ;)
 
About time the other thread got closed . . .
 
 
"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."
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