Does Allah Say?

Narrated 'Abdullah:

Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshiped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims." 

Volume 5, Book 59, Number 632:

Narrated Abu Burda:

That the Prophet sent his (i.e. Abu Burda's) grandfather, Abu Musa and Mu'adh to Yemen and said to both of them "Facilitate things for the people (Be kind and lenient) and do not make things difficult (for people), and give them good tidings, and do not repulse them and both of you should obey each other." Abu Musa said, "O Allah's Prophet! In our land there is an alcoholic drink (prepared) from barley called Al-Mizr, and another (prepared) from honey, called Al-Bit"' The Prophet said, "All intoxicants are prohibited." Then both of them proceeded and Mu'adh asked Abu Musa, "How do you recite the Quran?" Abu Musa replied, "I recite it while I am standing, sitting or riding my riding animals, at intervals and piecemeal." Muadh said, "But I sleep and then get up. I sleep and hope for Allah's Reward for my sleep as I seek His Reward for my night prayer." Then he (i.e. Muadh) pitched a tent and they started visiting each other. Once Muadh paid a visit to Abu Musa and saw a chained man. Muadh asked, "What is this?" Abu Musa said, "(He was) a Jew who embraced Islam and has now turned apostate." Muadh said, "I will surely chop off his neck!"

Of course the apostates who are under the protection of the enemy forces or enjoying the elements of comfort cuz of cognitive dissonance and reinterpretation of deen they have a temporary break from hell fire that is all as per the following hadith!

One can have a weak iman and ask forgiveness but justifying it to be the best Iman is sure fire path to the hell fire!

Even in every day courts when you plead guilty it is always a lighter sentence than after trial conviction then it is  full extent of the law!

So quit pleading on behalf of the guilty party and stop the mud slinging over believers! You are doing pretty good so far being an attorney of the Qadiani schism!

We still have to deal with Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam, he is great orator but you know he is taking lot of poor black Americans to the wrong path!

I pray he quits before too long he doesn't have much time left! What money and fame does to the human beings particularly in the western influence!

Volume 8, Book 76, Number 585:

Narrated Abu Hazim from Sahl bin Sa'd:

The Prophet said, "I am your predecessor (forerunner) at the Lake-Fount, and whoever will pass by there, he will drink from it and whoever will drink from it, he will never be thirsty. There will come to me some people whom I will recognize, and they will recognize me, but a barrier will be placed between me and them." Abu Hazim added: An-Nu'man bin Abi 'Aiyash, on hearing me, said. "Did you hear this from Sahl?" I said, "Yes." He said, " I bear witness that I heard Abu Said Al-Khudri saying the same, adding that the Prophet said: 'I will say: They are of me (i.e. my followers). It will be said, 'You do not know what they innovated (new things) in the religion after you left'. I will say, 'Far removed, far removed (from mercy), those who changed (their religion) after me." Abu Huraira narrated that the Prophet said, "On the Day of Resurrection a group of companions will come to me, but will be driven away from the Lake-Fount, and I will say, 'O Lord (those are) my companions!' It will be said, 'You have no knowledge as to what they innovated after you left; they turned apostate as renegades (reverted from Islam)."

Thank you for backing out clean. Help will come from some where, Insha Allah.

Yaar�em, you know me, I admit, I was not brought up on a diet just of the Koran. Any help from me will get you killed in this battle field.

The prophet led his entire life according to the  dictates of the Quran. Death is a Capital punishment. Even Maudoodi sahib said that "Important matters concerning life and death or Haram/halal cannot be left to the Hadith alone. Proof for such matters must come from the Quran." (Rasaail o Masaail Vol?)

My friend, I couldn�t agree with you more.

Absolutely, the solution of any such matters must come just from the Koran.

I would suggest that it should go to its decisive end without any threats or bar.

I hope no one has ever threatened you? But when people are pestered just as a sheer fix for some serious psychological disorder then I won�t blame anyone trying just a bit PESTICIDE here and there!

How can you ever discuss anything with some chap who doesn�t even read your replies and just goes on pushing the sickest of manners? There is only one view � his and his alone. All else is ignorance.

Whisper, I understand that you had the top class modern education only and you did not have much to do with theology. Anyhow, have a good rest and be comfortable. That is what comes out of Cambridge and Oxford. No harm, Insha Allah.

That�s why you never find me in any theological discussion ever. I am no expert on Koran and never quote anything just as hearsay.

Yes, but on most blatant distortions, we all have a certain sentir � feel � of what�s going on. So, in such cases, it does become impossible to keep quiet and just let matters pass.

I have no idea at all if an apostate should be killed or not, but we must use a truck load of pesticide to rid us of this pest that has been a little worse than some pissus (bed fleas) you used to find in some Murree hotel beds!