Ali bin Abi Talib.

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Answer: The verse according to its Asbaabun Nuzuul was revealed at the instant of Tabuuk expedition, and the name of the hypocrites who refused to participate (80 in all) were recorded by then.� 3 Sahabas who did not participate were pardoned by Allah. (9:118). �The number of the Sahabas that participated in the expedition was 30,000. I do not know the number of the people of Madina. So the percentage is very negligible; 3 out of 30,000.��

we are not talking about percentage here, or majority... if u want to talk about the majority then i can give u the example of Uhud... but the fact i am trying to tell u is that it is very hard to understand that there were no hypocrites among the people around the Prophet (s.a.w)....wen Allah (s.w.t) has repeatedly talked about them..

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Answer: Yes they were hypocrites and they knew who they were. They were not the Muhajiriin, but the people of Abdullah ibn Ubayy ibn Salul. Please do not accuse them of hypocrisy! They were so to speak our guinea pigs, rabbits, frogs and dogfish. These animals were dissected by those who want to become doctors so as to learn how to operate on human beings. The hypocrites were used as model by Allah to teach us and warn us what hypocrisy is all about! We do not take lessons, while we should have! �

I dont think bad-mouthing the hypocrites is not something one shud do....can u plese prove that this aayah was for Abdullah ibn Ubayy ibn Salul and his people.... the tafsirs in the following verse talk about hypocrites in general...

Answer: According to Asbaabul Nuzuul this verse was revealed in relation to the deaf, Thaabit ibn Qays bin Shimaal. In another narration Abubakar and Umar raised their voices when a caravan from Banii Tamiim arrived. Umar started calling in a loud voice the name of Aqra�a while Abubakar was calling the name of another man. So the verse was revealed that they should not shout in the presence of the holy Prophet. Anyway we do not raise our voice in the presence of our leaders. But one good thing about the Sahabas was they said what was in their mind and advised the holy Prophet on what was best for them. If they raised their voice for him to hear is a different thing altogether.<o:p></o:p>

another time wen Umar Raised his voice above the Prophet (s.a.w) was at the event of thursday before the Prophet (a.s)'s death...will be discussed later...

Answer:� The captives of Badr were all Quraysh their relations. �They came to Abubakar and Umar asking them to intercede on their behalf. The holy Prophet sought their opinion as was given in the Siira. Then the holy Prophet was given the hard task of choosing between what Umar said and what Abubakar said. The Prophet showed leniency towards them while Umar wanted them to be beheaded. Understand the difference between opposing the Prophets order and advise please. Any body who opposed his order is dealt with on the spot. When the holy Prophet told the Ansars to withdraw from the battle field and were replaced by Hamza, Ali and Ubayda they obeyed him. The holy Prophet took their advise and they went and occupied the wells of badr and they stood on wet sand.�� �<o:p></o:p>

Dont u think opposing the words of the Prophet (s.a.w) is a major act of disobedience???? it is sad that u have also tried to lower the status of Prophet (s.a.w) wen it comes to saving the people who were with the Prophet (a.s).....

Our Lord also us that: "Whoever obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah." (Surat an-Nisa': 80) 

isnt going against the words of Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w) as act of disobedience to Allah (s.w.t) as well...

In another verse, our Lord states: 

You should accept whatever the Messenger gives you and abandon whatever he tells you to abandon. Have taqwa of Allah... (Surat al-Hashr: 7) 

Answer: I have come across this incident in my reference books. It was said that the camel of Abu Zarr tarried behind and he disembarked and went on foot.

Some ppl dint like the orders of the prophet (s.a.w) as they dint want to slaughter their camels...even tho the Prophet (s.a.w) had commanded them to do it to overcome the scarcity of the food...

Answer: Please read the story of Hudaibiya carefully by Dr. Muhammad Abdulqadir Abu Faris. Let us praise the courage of the Sahabas and their determination to go and perform the Umra. They were already at war with the Quraysh and it would an insult to them to allow the Quraysh to deter them from performing the Umra according to their tradition. Allah gave permission in Sura 2:194. I could not imagine them bowing down to Quraysh if they were sincere believers. So you are saying that Ali bin Abi was a coward? �Look, they won the Badr, Uhud partially, Khandaq. Any way Allah pardoned them and they offered Bai�at to the holy Prophet which Allah was pleased with. Remember that Ali bin Abi Talib refused to strike the name Muhammad Rasulullah in place of Muhammad ibn Abdullah as requested by Suhayl.<o:p></o:p>

Maula Ali (a.s) was not a coward...he was simply acting to the verse i quoted above and dint want to go against the words of the Prophet (s.a.w)....

wat i have reffered to is the complaining of Umar at the time of Hudaybiyah and his questions on the Prophethood of Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w)....and he was not satisfied with the answer of the Prophet (s.a.w)..... u can see the  emaan of Umar reflecing there...and his level of yaqeen...

there is a very vast difference on the course of obedience to Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w) between u and me... For u, anybody can stand up and question the words of the MESSENGER OF ALLAH (s.w.t), while for us its different....wen the command of Prophet Muhammad is cannot be questioned by anybody, exept wen the Prophet (s.a.w) himself takes back his words...and thats what happend wen Imam Ali (a.s) was asked to strike off some words.... Infact i am pretty much sure, of Imam Ali (a.s) would have done that, the people wud have surly questioned his belief in Prophethood.... Look at the Zulm done on the Merits of Imam Ali (a.s)....some call him god, others call him wrong in many actions...there is attack on him from every angles....ppl tried to raise his status than the orignal, and they tried to lower it than the orignal.... None of the People  around the Prophet (s.a.w) has faced such zulm....

Answer: Yes. You must understand the Sahabas did not have the same level of understanding. It was the tribe of Hawazain who just embraced Islam who showed in- patience in the distribution of the large amount of the spoils. They did not understand the generosity of the holy Prophet. To the complainer Ju�ayl b. Suraaqa the holy Prophet said, �I have treated them generously so that they may become Muslims, and I have entrusted Ju�ayl to his Islam .Distributing spoils of war was the prerogative of the holy Prophet and nobody else. Dhuul-Khuwaysira also complained and accused the holy Apostle of injustice because the holy Prophet gave some Sahabas 100 camels each, others less then that and Abbas b. Mirdaas less. So what?� Only 4 people out of 6,000 troops complained. They were not even from the Ansars. It is unfair to generalize!<o:p></o:p>

i think i have explaind the obedience of Prophet (s.a.w) in a single verse....wich i think i dont need to repeat..

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Answer: Probably those who complained did not know that the holy Prophet promised Usamah that he will visit the grave of his father. The expedition had the secondary purpose of war, but the primary cause was the visit by Usamah to his father�s grave. Usmah was just 22 years old and naturally they would complain of that. The samething happened during the battle of Badr, Uhud and Khandaq. At least they obeyed the decision of Abubakar. <o:p></o:p>

for those who went against the words of the Prophet (s.a.w), went against the words of Allah (s.w.t)...

y do u think the True Companions of the Prophet (s.a.w) have a status in the eyes of Allah (s.w.t) which hardly anybody can have today....i will not be wrong if i say almost Impossible....THEY HAD SEVERE TESTS TO GIVE IN THOSE DAYS.....

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Answer: I praised the action of the Sahabas because the holy Prophet said he left them the Book of Allah and his Sunna. We do not need any will from the holy Prophet. If Allah was not pleased with their action they could have been rebuked by Him.

YA ALLAH!!!!!!!! HOW CAN U JUSTIFY SUCH AN ACT OF ZULM ON PROPHET (s.a.w).....what was the Prophet (a.s) doing....GIVING HIS SUNNAH...IN THE FORM OF WORDS... and the reason of him doing this is given in the following hadith:

before i relate to u the famous hadith....i would remind u that  you have actually gone against he words of Umar wen u say "the holy Prophet said he left them the Book of Allah and his Sunna." because Umar has also said (given in bold)..

This is what we read in Sahih al-Bukhari as narrated by Ibn 'Abbas:

When the time of the death of the Prophet approached while there were some men in the house, and among them was 'Umar Ibn al-Khattab, the Prophet said: "Come near let me write for you a writingafter which you will never go astray." 'Umar said: "The Prophet is seriously ill, and you have the Qur'an, so Allah's Book is sufficient for us." The people in the house differed and disputed. Some of them said, "Come near so that Allah's Apostle may write for you a writing after which you will not go astray," while the others said what 'Umar said. When they made much noise and quarreled greatly in front of the Prophet, he said to them, "Go away and leave me." Ibn 'Abbas used to say, "It was a great disaster that their quarrel and noise prevented Allah's Apostle from writing a statement for them.

Sahih al Bukhari Arabic-English Volume 9 hadith number 468 and Volume 7 hadith 573

so according to umar....u dont need the sunnah...and the Book of Allah (s.w.t) is sufficient....and so we dont need the sunnah...

secondly the Prophet (s.a.w) wanted to write something which would help us not go astray...whatever he wanted it to write....but i am sure....whatever it was...if that document had been written, then u and me wouldnt be calling each other "ppl who have gone astray" from the true path....CUZ THE TRUE PATH WOULD HAVE BEEN MADE CLEAR.....

�Answer: Those who conspired against the Ahl-al-bayt were well known- the people of Egypt, Iraq, Persia and Syria. There case is with Allah. If He likes He will forgive them or else He will punish them according to their intention. But today Islam is 1429 years. We have no excuse to give to Allah for our utter failure to establish the Khalifate! This is the greatest debacle. We should be concerned with what Allah revealed to us. How old were Hassan and Hussein?<o:p></o:p>

can u please complete ure question in the last sentence...

since ure post is too long...i will look into the rest of the post in some time....

wsalaam

Edited by asda - 18 October 2008 at 6:07am