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Nur_Ilahi
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Nur Ilahi posted: A muslim is very carefull not to add or substract to what is revealed by God. Thus God is our God, not father in Islam.
That quote was not from me but from Bro Honeto.
Response: No Muslim with scholarship and Higher Criticism will call Allah his Father.
The iman or faith of a Muslim does not depend on a scholarship or Higher Criticism as you called it. In fact I have never come across a term called Higher Criticism before. Still, the fact is no Muslim should call Allah his Father (Astaghfirullah!) Calling Allah one's Father was their understanding in the Book of Genesis that I quoted them. You must know how to differentiate the meaning of Allah. To Muslim, Allah is the Lord of the Whole Universe, the Creator, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful the AlMighty of the mightiest. Do not equate Allah The Creator with god the creation. I hope you are clear with this.
At least I am not putting them off from trying to understand Islam. You want to make them (non-Muslims) understand Islam, yet your version or explanation of Islam, even I a Muslim, cannot understand.
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Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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Friendship
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Assalamu alaikum.
Nur Ilahi posted: A muslim is very carefull not to add or substract to what is revealed by God. Thus God is our God, not father in Islam. Response: No Muslim with scholarship and Higher Criticism will call Allah his Father. Calling Allah one's Father was their understanding in the Book of Genesis that I quoted them. At least I am not putting them off from trying to understand Islam. The full text from Matthew Henry's commentary of Genesis 6:-2 is, "The sons of God( that is, the professors of religion (but we all know that it is wrong to translate ad-din or Islam as religion), who were called by the name of the Lord, and called upon that name). We call ourselves Abdurahman, Abdullahi, Abdulra'uf etc. I think that is one of the meaning of Chapter 16:25. Addition or subtraction to whet Allah revealed is a more serious issue in the Sunna of the holy Prophet than in Ta'wil. This unfortunately is what the majority of the Muslim do not guard against. Friendship Edited by Friendship - 16 December 2008 at 6:19am |
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Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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Nur_Ilahi
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Salamalaikum Hasan,
I agree wholeheartedly what you said. Muslims should refrain from saying that Allah is our father, because Allah is Al-Ahad The Only One. For Muslim, it is very important to understand thoroughly Surah Al-Ikhlas -
Say: He is Allah, Absolute Oneness, Allah, the Everlasting Sustainer of all. He has not given birth and was not born. And no one is comparable to Him. We are not suppose to compare Him - The Creator - with any of His Creations.
Let's recite Astaghfirullah - I seek forgiveness from Allah. |
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Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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honeto
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Hi ,
as a Muslim, I don't see any reason to call God, father. As the term father is a wordly term, has its weaknesses. To a child abused by his/her father this word "father" may bring bad memories and may stand for bad, something of an abuser and so on, not of devine characteristics.
In Quran, God is not mentioned as father of anyone. A muslim is very carefull not to add or substract to what is revealed by God. Thus God is our God, not father in Islam.
Hasan Edited by honeto - 15 December 2008 at 2:20pm |
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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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Friendship
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Assalamu alaiki.
Sister Angela posted: Allah is your father...in the manner that he is the creator of your spirit. Response: Thank you very much for giving me that honour. God (Allah) was the Father of Eve and the Father of Adam. The sons of God are the professors of Islam (Religion) who are not profane and strangers to Him. Friendship |
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Angela
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Allah is your father...in the manner that he is the creator of your spirit. My church refers to all of humanity as his children. This places an even greater responsibility on us as siblings. When we kill, we are all as guilty as Cain. When you hit your wife you are hitting the daughter of God and must someday answer to her very angry father. We are to honor and obey our father and creator. Allah is the absolute creator. Of course, if Allah has no gender and no human attributes, you can also consider Allah your Mother.... |
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very,very interesting observations. i'm at a loss at the moment. this truely requires some thought.
leland
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love for all conquers all
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