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Gibbs
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Seekshidayath thank you for the link as well as welcoming me to the forum. But even with the slaughter of cows and other animals that are permissible in Islam, there is no guarantee that all impurities are let out of the body even if the blood has exited the body. there are certain pathogens (i.e. bacteria) that are indeed in the deep tissues of the animal animal that requires the meat to be cooked at a certain temparture, which, according to your previous statements I'm sure you are aware of. but then again, I'm not too knowledgable as to how exactly this process is in the Muslim meat markets so I'll stop there, but thanks for the read.
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Salome
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In speaking to my husband he looked up the H1N1, this happen to also be in the great spanish flu epidemic in the early 1900's. This at the time was the deadliest plague in history.
Salome Edited by Salome - 30 April 2009 at 5:21pm |
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AhmadJoyia
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Well I am thinking as to why the originator is enquiring about the pigs and dogs only? why not asked similar questions about other beasts out there in the Jungles? This is especially interesting because they have not been mentioned in Quran and yet we, the humans, don't eat them. One thought could be that these animals are not as easily be domesticated or breeded as the pigs are. Therefore, Allah provided explicit instructions about the pigs and not about other animals. However, one must note that the prohibition is for eating its meat only. But most Muslims, including myself, stigmatise the animal to great extremes, which I think is not the right thing to do.
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Salome
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Well I don't know where you live at, but I currently live in Vermont USA and there aren't very many jungles here........
I'm sorry I couldn't resist, please forgive me. Salome |
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mariyah
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Asalaamu alaikum:
I have been reading this thread with great interest, I also have found an interesting article at http://www.geocities.com/porkfatal/ Here is an excerpt:'" Luk was with a team of medical students doing a research project on the effects of diet on stomach and intestinal diseases such as trichinosis. The research team�s method was to go to the hospitals and dissect corpses for autopsies. They based their studies on the diets of the various ethnic communities in the region. Their research uncovered the finding of the ethnic community with the highest percentage of cases with the trichinella spiralis worm belonged to a race that had pork as its main staple diet. Their research data showed a remarkably low percentage of Jews and Moslems with the trichinella spiralis worm in their bodies. It is significant that these two ethnic communities exclude pork and other biblically unclean meats in their diet.: And getting back to the subject, Swine flu, no you cannot catch this by eating swine, but you can catch other nasty diseases. Click on the link and read for yourself. Actually, the flu is only called swine flu because it had been found at one time in Swine in another part of the world. When an "A" designated virus mutates and enters into another species and then is transmitted back it brings with it an ability to outwit the original species in which it initially existed. Hence the increased reports of death. You have more deaths related in a year to the ill effects of eating swine than to catching the flu virus that is associated with it. You have a greater chance of picking the virus up from air transmission than you do eating it. And, wash that nasty telephone at work! You never know who is breathing on it! This virus on the average can only live 2 hours on a dead surface. Washing hands, cover your nose when you sneeze or cough, stay out of densely populated contained areas such as a small enclosed trolley, open your windows and air out your house. And wash and wash your hands again, and if you are sick do not go to work! So please stay healthy so that I do not get called into an emergency nurses meeting because some bug becomes pandemic. Alhamdullillah, the only thing that can get across the us-mexico border right now is the traficonarcoticos...maybe they dreamed this up to keep La Migra busy. All I know is that I am stuck here and can not go home and my husband is there on the rancho and I am stuck here in town with my mother in law and 2 sons for company. Inshallah all will remain healthy and this scare will pass.... Edited by mariyah - 01 May 2009 at 8:57pm |
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AhmadJoyia
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Thanks bro for letting us know, otherwise your Avtar doesn't seem to relate you from anywhere on the earth.
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Nur_Ilahi
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Waalaikum salam Mariyah. I hope you and family are fine and are not affected by this virus. Does this pandemic affects your economy? When SARS happened, it really did affect our economy in Singapore. Shops at hospital buildings were the worst off because not many people would want to go there. Even shopping centres were quite quiet cos people are scared to be affected with these viruses.
InshaAllah, we will make du'a for you and family there. Take Care Sis. |
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Chrysalis
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Hello Gibbs,
Yes, there is no guarantee that Islamic slaughter will remove all impurities 100% - other factors are involved too, rearing conditions, hygenic enviornment, utensils etc etc. If animals have been given steroids or other drugs, residue is left in organs ... One also has to cook meat properly, like you suggested etc
However, the Islamic & Judaic slaughter methods do reduce the risk of impurities in body to a great degree - by letting out blood (medium for germs).
Apart from the impurity (blood-letting) factor - Islamic Slaughter is also relatively humane, with lesser pain. Prophetic Traditions give various guidelines e.g. not slaughtering one animal in front of another, providing it good conditions before slaughter, i.e shade, food, water etc.
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