"FUTURE" THOUGHTS

assalaam my brother.

Nazarene wrote: assalaam alaikum everyone!      bro. tnc . been reading you posts and find them facinating thought. insight that must leave our christain friends speechless, or so it seems.    so let me ask you something in their place. i posted some thoughts on Rev 17. in the opener. whats your view on this chapter, or my simple take on it.    i agree on islam as the " church ". jesus himself says it's not his name and death. but his message and teachings that he brought us in life that will tell the true church from the false one. remember they asked "how shall we build your church? he replied " go tell the good news of the kingdom ". leland

Salaam!

     Let us look at what Jesus (S) said about the kingdom of God (The coming of Islam) and you will see how revelation 17 falls in place.

Matthew13:24-30

24Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

 25But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

    That happens when Paul had the visit which he claimed that it was Jesus (S) whom he never met nor saw before: Acts 9:1-8

 ³And as he (Paul) journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

 ⁴And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

 ⁵And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

What Jesus (S) said? He said:  ⁵For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

 ⁶And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do. Acts 9:1-8   

Note: Paul never met Jesus (S) and he said: �he saw a light� and �heard a voice� and the voice claimed that: �he is Jesus�

What is most striking is the divine word the voice mentioned: �it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.� Acts 9:1-8 KJV. Is that a word from God�s mouth or the Devil?

What Jesus said? For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. Matthew24:5  

 Then the message reinforce at the counsel of Nicaea Council 325 A.D. the new form of Christianity: http://www.islamtomorrow.com/bible/NicaeaCouncil325.htm

Jesus (S) continues Matthew13:24-30:

26But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

 27So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

 28He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

 29But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

 30Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

 Matthew13:36-44

 36Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

 37He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

What is the good seed that Jesus (S) sowed? It is the message of the coming of the Kingdom of God (Islam)!

38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

 39The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

You see that! The Devil Church is running parallel with the Kingdom of God (Islam). So we have two Churches now.

REVELATION17AND13

  It is mentioned in the book of Rev.2:9 �I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

And in Rev3:9 �Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.�

  As we understand the �fake Jews� was described as the �CHURCH OF SATAN�.  Now watch the connection with THE FALSE CHURCH AND BEAST 666

It is mentioned in Rev.17:3 �And I saw a WOMAN sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

  I have established in Rev.12 that the woman mentioned there represents the church and the woman also represents a great city. Rev.17:18 �And the woman�is that Great City, which reigneth over the kings of the earth...�  But only this time the woman (the church that great city) is described as a �Great Whore� in Rev.17:1

  in Rev.17:1-4 it stated: �And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

  Rev.17:15 And he saith unto me, the waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

  Rev.17: 2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

  Rev.17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

  Rev.17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:�

  She is one that is married and has been false to her husband�s bed. In other words, the �church� is carrying the scripture but �false� to the true teaching of God and she sit on the scarlet coloured BEAST, �full of blasphemy�, having seven head and ten horn.

  She is described as: �MISTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.�(Rev.17:5)

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And the angel said: �And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountain, on which the woman (false church that great city) sitteth. And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; but when he cometh, he must continue a short space.� (Rev.17:9-10)

 The seven head are seven Great City, five has fallen and one exist (the Pagan Empire) at the time when this prophesy was revealed and the other is yet to come (Modern day Pagan Empire). The Pagans wage war against the Romans Christians (people of the Book) and defeat them, then Allah revealed to Muhammad (S) Q.30:2-4.

  The Romans have been defeated. In the nearest land Syria Iraq Jordan, and Palestine), and they, after their defeat, will be victorious. Within three to nine years. The decision of the matter, before and after (these event) is only with Allah, (before the defeat of the Romans by the Persians, and after the defeat of the Persians by the Romans). And on that day, the believers (Muslim) will rejoice (at the victory given by Allah to the Romans against the Persian). (N.Q.30:2-4)

   Although the message of Jesus (S) was tainted with Paul message he received from the supposed Jesus whom voice he only heard, Allah (S) still show favors to the people who follow the tainted message of Jesus (S) until the arrival of God Kingdom (Islam).

They were the Roman Christian (the people of the Book) and under Heracles defeated the Persian Empire in March 628. That was a blessing for the Muslim. Then the Romans reject the Message of the Qur�an (God�s Kingdom on earth), then Allah remove them from the light and place them into darkness, and then there were consume by Islam in 638 (Rapid expansion of Islam). Islam took Heracles by surprise: Survival, 565�717.After the Romans were defeated by the Muslims, there emerges a �new� Christianity: Pope Gregory the Great (590-604), he converted the Anglo-Saxon invaders of Great Britain to his new form of Christianity (Pagan Christianity) which later known as the Crusaders  [the seventh king (Empire)] then evolve in the west as the eight king (Modern day Pagan�s Empire) and he will go into eternal damnation.  And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eight, and of the seven, and goeth into perdition. (Rev.17:11)

Rev. 6:7-8  And when he had open the forth seal�a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him, And power was given unto him over the �forth part� of the earth (New world: the west ), to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

  And the ten horn which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet, but received power as king one hour with the beast. (Rev.17:12)

So Daniel said in 8:23 �And in the later (which is now) of there Kingdom, when the transgressors (CRUSADERS) are come to the full, a KING OF FIERCE COUNTENANCE, and understanding dark sentences, shall standup.�

  Daniel 8.24 His POWER shall be MIGHTY, but not by his own power (By the Power of U.N.): and he shall DISTROY WONDERFULLY, and shall PROSPER, and practice, and shall DISTROY the MIGHTY and the HOLY PEOPLE (MUSLIMS).

 And by �PEACE� shall DESTROY MENY