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    Posted: 13 July 2009 at 6:01am
Asalamualiku,
 
Thanx for the help sister(seekshidayath). i would like to reply both hayfa and (sign reader)
to hayfa first: i'm not a scholar i'm 22 and studying law but i'm also a student of Islam. i love islam and from the age of 14 till now it is Allah's help through islam that i consider my self safe from the evil which surrounds me, as a muslim i am Allah's servant by defination and i must obey his comands, that is how i get peace in these troubled times. i was 18 when i grew my beard eventhough people resisted that, my younger brother had to go to a foreign country for his studies and my mother told him to trim the beard but he refused because he has faith in Allah.
Sign reader i'm not one of those pakistanis who leave for economic conditions those who do will be answerable to Allah, i can leave this land which is filled with tension but i dont want to but the day my faith is in trouble i i may go to other muslim lands but not the west, i dont know why u put me in the same box as those who leave for economic reasons, i was talking about migration on religious grounds not economic. i study in a secular school but few sisters who have hijab or like i have a beard people do come to ask about islam, once a forein friend of mine came to my house with his christian british wife, fist she seemed nervous but as time went by she asked about islam and i had positive  discussion with them, i also gave them the Quran with the english translation of Abdullah yusuf Ali.
prophet Muhamad (pbuh) said "A believer is a mirror to a believer" a muslim would never want a muslimah to be in danger, honestly i would protect in any way a muslimah sister as i protect my mother or sister, God knows when i heard about Dr Afia i cried, Allah help her.. the discussion was about hijab and dawah by sister Ayesha but we are now just talking about incidents of hatred and violence in US against muslims in US.
Hijab is very good for dawah purposes, i know about alot of Turkish brothers who's daughters and wives are doing great Dawah in US with hijab, see The fountain magazine march-april 2009 issue in www.the lightpublishing.com .  i pray for all muslimah sisters's safety specially in the west, ameen. there are alot of practicing muslims  from the atlantic to the pacific Alhamdullilah, i dont know than why sign reader says there is no Ummah. i have immense respect for sister's with hijab and those with more taqwa than men are more respectable than men in sight of us and specially Allah, men and woman are equal but different and those with taqwa are the best. i hope we stick to the origional topic.....
May Allah guide us....
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I was thinking, what if the gunman went on to demand her to take off more of her clothes or tries to rape her?..... we have to fight back at some point with all legit means neccessary. Such attacks aint against a piece of cloth but against a person and their identity.

Saladin, I agree about fighting back but I truly believe it is up to the individual woman.  Some women are SO passive. They are either more naturally less likely to fight back and others are raised to be extremely passive and helpless. How do you say to women fight back if they have always been raised in their lives to 'give in.' And if you add on  that you are not done much physical activity.. like sports.

Having studied this subject for a long time women who ARE perceived by the attacker to be 'more victimlike" are chosen. People who do such harm are not looking for a fight. They want it to be 'easy.'

Some women do submit cause they don't realize or know how to fight back or they view it as the least of the harm.. being beaten, mutilated or killed.

Though most women without training do fight back.. but many don't.

Having been choked myself by a man, its scary.. really scary.. I am blessed with training but I tell you as you cannot breathe.. its not easy.. most women are grabbed or threatened..

The interesting aspect is that women who draw attention to themselves-- in this society.. are inviting trouble. Its like standing out is not really a good thing.. Muslims say sure.. if you dress a certain way, exhibit certain behaviors etc. Well that also goes for women of different cultures or faiths. And in light of the whole current situation women  in full hijab stand out and screams 'woman, probably foreign woman." that can easily attract the wrong type of attention.

Salams, Hayfa.speaking of TV shows, I read on the muslim media network site that they are looking for Muslimah for the "wife swap" show.

dear heavens.. lol
 
When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy. Rumi
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This is a lecture of Dr. Zakir Naik, though not directly related to hijab, but shall address our subject of discussion, insha Allah.


If Label Shows Your Intent Wear It (video)
File 1:
http://server1.aswatalislam.net/Audios/Videos/Lectures/Zakir%20Naik%20-%20Debates//Zakir%20Naik%20-%20If%20Label%20Shows%20Your%20Intent%20Wear%20It% 201of3(www.aswatalislam.net).wmv
File 2:
http://server1.aswatalislam.net/Audios/Videos/Lectures/Zakir%20Naik%20-%20Debates//Zakir%20Naik%20-%20If%20Label%20Shows%20Your%20Intent%20Wear%20It% 202of3(www.aswatalislam.net).wmv
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http://server1.aswatalislam.net/Audios/Videos/Lectures/Zakir%20Naik%20-%20Debates//Zakir%20Naik%20-%20If%20Label%20Shows%20Your%20Intent%20Wear%20It% 203of3(www.aswatalislam.net).wmv
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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if someone held a gun to a woman's head and said take the scarf off or I will kill you - any reasonable scholar will advice to take it off in such situations. Also see 16:106.

I was thinking, what if the gunman went on to demand her to take off more of her clothes or tries to rape her?..... we have to fight back at some point with all legit means neccessary. Such attacks aint against a piece of cloth but against a person and their identity.

'Trust everyone but not the devil in them'
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Originally posted by Hayfa Hayfa wrote:

Well Sign Reader,We could have a show.. the Muslim Bachelorette.. just no touching! What do you think?? Hayfa
Salams, Hayfa.speaking of TV shows, I read on the muslim media network site that they are looking for Muslimah for the "wife swap" show.
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yes seekhidayath...well taken.
Jazak Allah khair Smile
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Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:



My question was quite straight forward under the ayas I quoted:

First. the Muslim men are not available for protection...
Second: The scarf became a symbol to invite attack while not even fulfilling the outer garment edict to prevent molestation..
So in final analysis the scarf(Hijab) didn't work as a Dawah for the people who are psychopaths with a dead soul to begin with ...

In Dresden murder case Egyptian sister Sherbini probably got killed  I guess by psychopathic unemployed German cuz her scarf triggered hate and xenophobia under the poor economic conditions prevailing in Dresden...

I think the Muslims must not forget that migrating to the European countries will not get them complete civil rights and independent life styles...After all Germany is where Nazis got their foothold..rather why  hang around psychopathic people who are never gonna like the different color and looks...

IMHO it is somewhat safer for hijabis in big urban areas in US but I doubt same is true in Germany or France...the question of Hijab being a dawah thing is yet to be proven of course there are exceptions...

My take would be to take the macro view of the Muslim demographics there can't be one thingamajig fits all if life and limb are in peril...



I agree you brother. Aaysha hope you agree with this post, esp to the lines highlighted in blue.

At this point wherein, its said that "Men are protectors -- " i slightly disagree. The ayah goes like this - " �Men are the protectors and maintainers of women because of what Allah has preferred one with over the other and because of what they spend to support them from their wealth.�

Here. men is interpreted as men in her life. A husband, therefore, has the responsibility of taking care of his wife, protecting her, defending her honor, and fulfilling her needs regarding her religion and her worldly life. In this case of California, irrespective of  i guess this hadith would apply here  that in which Anas states that the Messenger of Allah said, Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is oppressed. "I asked, `O Allah's Messenger! It is right that I help him if he is oppressed, but how should I help him if he is an oppressor' He said, By preventing him from oppressing others; this is how you help him in this case.

Atleast for the sake of brotherhood, any of the muslim brothers shud have  supported her and helped. Its a duty of a muslim to protect the honour of other muslim.




Edited by seekshidayath - 12 July 2009 at 1:26am
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Everything in this life is just a matter of choices...to be on the path at all cause or to just justify one's action....and all of these will be judged by Allah.

I am not so knowledgeable about this deen, Bro Sign.reader..i just know a few that I truly believe. I dont know the situation in your place and what I aired there is my belief and stand.

I believe that nothing in this life happens without His leave and there are things we do not like that is better for us...2;216

We are just minority here in Mindanao but that does not stop us from fighting for our rights to exist and to practice our faith. We are being dubbed as terrorist, they have tried to annihilate us but nay! Allah will not allow that. What is being done agaisnt us are being concealed by the media and none know what really happens to my people. I have been too afraid for so long i got no fear left in me no more.

Am sorry if I said something that may hurt anyone or touched someone's ego...i dont mean it.




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