Invasion of body scanners!

martha wrote: Salams Sister, I am not asking others not to have their human rights at all. What is best is that people don't get paranoid about their rights..that goes for all people, religious or not. For example, these 95,000 muslims that want to sue..I find that extreme. It would look ridiculous, wouldn't it, if non-muslim Brits wanted to sue muslims because they are muslims. SO it is necessary to find the right balance in all things. OK, so regarding the scanners.Again, not a problem to protest,but it's how it's done. A reliable alternative should be implimented if it causes distress to the minority and it will come eventually. So people should be patient and flexible. I find your example of security officers a little bit over the top sis. When will people stop being so paranoid. Sure, you will have those that abuse the system and might be pervy..these will be weeded out I am sure. I worked in security, and as such these scanners eliminate the bodily contact previously in place. I have explained before that paddle scanners replaced the previous hands on contact with humans. Female officers once frisked women, male officers once frisked men. In that situation I could say some gay or lesbian officers might have got a sexual thrill, but it is still a small percentage of gays within the community at large, despite the persistent western scaremongering. And then came the paddles, now it is the body scanners. I personally believe, having been in that profession, that the best is being done to protect human rights and still allow good security. The security industry is moving forwards, not backwards. We cannot say the same for other countries unfortunately. There are pervs everywhere and in all religions.We have to advance and learn how to improve constantly. I grew up in a society when the conflict in Northern Ireland split the Catholics and the Protestants. Both sides had their own opinions, the IRA and other terrorist groups etc killed needlessly. Families were torn apart. Nothing was achieved and still the terrorist IRA sow their seeds of hate. So...the same will and is happening in the UK when diverse communities do not interact with eachother. I have many, many times explained that the barriers need to be broken down. I have lived within my own community(naturally) and lived 100% for 6yrs+ in the asian community. I understand many things. I really lived the culture and enjoyed many aspects of it. But what needs to happen is both/all communities mixing and listening to each other. Sis, you will know that this seldom happens. Asian communities segregate themselves from the English culture. THe English will get tired of being so lenient. I can assure you that the majority of English are very, very, tolerant. But times are changing. And in the next generation there will be a huge divide, same scenario as N. Ireland. The UK is a very small country...the population here is greater per square miles than Pakistan. Doesn't that seem strange. But it's true. The US do not have the same difficulties that we experience here, their country is HUGE!So it is not easy to help them understand. NOw if all muslims in all of Europe emmigrated to the US then its inhabitants would just begin to understand how desperately overpopulated we are here. The last thing I want for the UK is a civil war starting all because people do not take a deep breathe and listen to others and discuss like the decent human beings that we all can be. War will happen here, I can assure you. In my lifetime, in the UK. I do not want to see muslims and non-muslims as enemies. It is not a western problem especially..it is a human being problem. Greed mainly.Though religion could be said to play a part. I am content with my life cos I generally love people. I would happily share a cup of asian tea with you for example. My human rights will and are violated because of the way things are going right now. All are to blame. So..if for example muslims want their human rights, then gays expect theirs...the list goes on and on. I expect someone to suddenly one day come up with wanting to sue a murderer for breathing the same fresh air as them.So..where do you draw the line here? So yes, the insanity somewhere must stop. Who will take the initiative to do so before it's too late? So much has changed for the worse..no more playing hop scotch, no more conker playing, no more skipping games. What a mad, mad, mad, mad world. So, as a human from the middle part of the 20th century that had freedom to do SO much in life..human rights actually are now depriving me of that freedom. And it is supposed to be called progress? It is progress like this that destroyed previous civilisations..the Romans, the Greeks etc etc. The UK were once a good nation, the US are currently the great super power...that will not last long, and the next super power will be the E.U Amazing that such small, minor, petty issues can result in mass hysteria and the collapse of basic human life. It's terribly, terribly sad. You see, like with your original post...I responded in your eyes in a negative way. NOw can't you say we are at least talking more like sensible human beings? And for the main, I am an advocate for the minority. You just need to get to know me better sis :)

Wa-aliekum Asalam Wa Rahmatullau Wa Barakatuhu Sister martha!

With respect to Muslims conducting them selves in certain ways while demonstrating, the fact remains Danish cartoon are Offence to the Muslims of the World, mockery of their religion and its Holy figure not to mention Danish arrogantly and shamelessly not apologizing or backing off desperately wanting to create conflicts between community.

By saying 'if non-Muslim Brits wanted to sue Muslims because they are Muslims.' I hope you are not implying that �Being a Muslim� is an Offence in Eyes of Brits - otherwise chain of implication will come out starting with, I have to say Oh boy now I know Every thing! Whether you are Hindu, Buddhist, Jew or Christian or Atheist is Not an offence to Brits but simply if a person is a Muslim you are an offence to Brits hmmmm�.I see now. So, that�s why British government is discriminates between Muslims and Non-Muslims in UK and have �double standards�. That�s why British soldiers were out their breaching other country�s security illegally and butchering and terrorizing innocent Muslims blowing the cities to smithereens. It�s all making sense, Brits offended by 'all Muslims' not so called 'terrorist Muslims'. You sure cleared up all the misunderstandings I had that May be Brits are out to get just 'some terrorists ' but no it�s all the Muslims� to begin with. Brits wants to sue all Muslims for being Muslims but out of kindness of their heart and conducting them selves in certain way didn't do it but only went to the Muslim countries and bombed millions dead and reduced their country�s infrastructure to dust.

�both/all communities mixing and listening to each other� Yes of course that�s what Muslims have done and are doing but its not enough and will it be ever enough? No � Muslims need to Integrate to the point of leaving the religion to be accepted by British people because I have seen cases that many Muslims living in different parts of UK not segregated and mixed living in the heart of Non-Muslim populated area bullied and harassed into Not following their religion � don�t wear hijab, don�t fast its offensive, come on have a drink, eat some pork, want a job! don�t wear hijab or have beard else your chances of Not having a job is 95%, lets go to night clubs or pubs, don�t pray and have a girl friend or a boy friend, don�t believe what you believe in � Wow! some tolerance! If you mean you want Muslims to integrate to the point of not being actually left Muslim then of course this is not acceptable to Muslims they will always do and believe in what makes them practicing Muslim other wise they rather be not a Muslim to fit in perfectly with other people as Desired � are you sure you don�t want to push Muslims into being forced to be a Non-Muslim with just a Muslim name tag.

You have my best of wishes in your mission of stalling a civil war much anticipated by you, even though its hard to believe that your dream can actually come true in your life time, when UK home media is every other day putting on Nazi propaganda style shows on to fear monger against Islam - you will need to work your socks off to convince them that these shows can easily provoke civil war tendencies from both parties, when fascist community starts to blindly attacking innocent Muslims on the streets and start practicing mid-evil attacks like throwing pigs heads in Masjid�s yards (Has already happened!). After all the effort Home media is putting in, we only need to sit back quietly wait for another holocaust to happen this time with Muslims. Phew! its makes me tired thinking about how hard you will need to work for your  mission to succeed, convincing all British people not to be Offended every time a person becomes a Muslim because that�s called 'Racism' - haven�t they had enough of that against 'blacks' (made slaves and kept oppressed until they fought back and won their rights and freedom) in the past, now looks like according to your testimony they found another target ' the Muslims' Not ' the terrorists' which was initial claim. Its 21's century but the west have a lot of catching up to do with its claim that �all are equal� while being �racist�, it needs to stop being hypocritical.

Scanners are no doubt a progress but towards its own destruction at its own hands - strangling it self to death, which I'm not supporting for its own good. Greeks, Romans etc got destroyed because they became grossly immoral and obsessed with Impearlism - being tyrant dictators detested and feared by its own citizens  and out-siders. They lied, cheated, deceived and butchered to get upper hand - to be Super power in the world. However, came right down crashing because even with all the glory and power in the world they were left Hollow inside by selling every thing for the power - No morals, no respect and no dignity left. People feared their government but never respected it had huge implications in the end. If one can not accept any advice from Muslims (simple because they are Muslims) then at least listen to his own people, an Founding father of West pointed out very important fact, please read and reflect on the following carefully;

Benjamin Franklin said, "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security, will deserve neither and loose both."

Now, UN seems to be doing it's job well in putting sanctions against countries who have nuclear power except US, UK, India and Israel. Yup, starving other countries to death while not being even able to lift a finger against Israel for dropping (banned by UN) cluster bombs and phosphorus bombs in Palestine. Infact, UN don't seem to mind Israel killing UN aid people along with women and children in its conflicts - Gives you good idea who is pulling UN�s strings. Surprise! Surprise! Israel is planning another inhuman ridiculously disproportional attack to murder left over Gazans ( women and children living in tattered camps starving to death now) and claim rest of the left over Palestinian land as its own illegally. Must be itching to use all the money they have scammed through Israeli firms selling these scanners to America, UK and its allies for its phony �war on terror� more like �war to terrorise�.

I think this is enough for now, more chat later. I�m more than happy to have good conversation with you any time my sister.