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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 August 2005 at 7:20pm
Apple Pie is using smoke and mirrors to diverge us from the main point again. It really doesn't matter if the work is "plagerized" (how do you know Noah didn't contact the author for a permission?). What matters is that it is factual, which will make it very difficult for you to refute.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 August 2005 at 7:54pm

Greetings Deus,

 

Thanks for interjecting your opinion�

 

Apple Pie is using smoke and mirrors to diverge us from the main point again.

 

 

With all due respect, the theme of this thread is sura 86, and how it proclaims:

 

  • Jesus is worshiped as God
  • Jesus was Crucified
  • Jesus was Resurrected
  • Jesus Judges with His Word

 

 

If you are unable to hold to this subject matter (which obviously you can�t)�.then kindly step aside and let others who can, join in on the discussion�.thanks�

 

 

 

 

 

 

It really doesn't matter if the work is "plagerized" (how do you know Noah didn't contact the author for a permission?).

 

 

Actually, it matters a great deal if Noah�s post is plagiarized�.as this is a serious offence�and this reflects on the person posting the material�

 

Noah never once posted his source�.permission or not�..obviously not�.

 

 

 

 

 

 What matters is that it is factual, which will make it very difficult for you to refute.

 

 

What matters is if you can hold to the theme of this thread instead of repeatedly turning the other cheek�and slavishly following your buddy�s lead�

 

Time for you to admit that you can�t refute my exegesis�

 

 

 

Thanks�

 

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 August 2005 at 1:28am
The work is not exclusively Jordan Maxwell's. But he is a great sholar, and evrybody is free to use his works. The last post ie. wasnt his but mine, written for articles that where posted on davidicke.com.

As im into the same kind of research as maxwell, and chose just to post his material rather than rewrite it, i can easily provide you with a litterature list, because there are certain books all researchers have to read.

The works of John M. Allegro. The man put in charge of the dead sea scrolls, but like the 2 others before him, he was fired and discredited, when he started talking about what they really said (the scrolls).

Get hold of the amplified KJV as there is a very usefull dictionary in the back, that explain why the bible use the word mazzeroth, in lines like "Canst thou bind the sweet influenzes of the mazzaroth?" says God to one of his prophets. You know what mazzaroth is rigth?

the pharmacratic inquesistion - Jan Irvin and Andrew Mutajit
(they have authored a film aswell, out on gnostic media, avaible here
http://ia201107.eu.archive.org/hdd1/movies/pharmacratic-in quisition/Pharmacratic-Inquisition_wmv.wmv)

Arthur Kemp - March of the Titans

Tony Bushby -The Bible Fraud

Elmer H. Gruber -The Original Jesus

Prince Nicholas de Vere von Drakenberg -The Thousand-Year Elven Holocaust


Eric Jon Phelps - The vatican assasins

Lloyd Graham -Myths and Deceptions of the Bible

Leonard Schlain -The Alphabet and the Goddess

To mention the must read list. If you want to know more about the sources on astro theology, here are some good must reads

Amen: The Key to The Mysteries -Leonard Bosman.

Astral Worship- J.H. Hill, M.D.

Basis of Scripture Prophecy -Sepharial.

The Devil�s Pulpit. - Rev. Robert Taylor.

Historical Survey Of The Astronomy Of The Ancients. -Rt. Hon. Sir George Cornewall Lewis.   

etc. I can give you my full litterature list, but why? nomatter who wrote the first posts, what difference does it make? your still worshipping Horus, and trying to tell us that its the right thing to do.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 August 2005 at 3:35pm
Originally posted by Apple Pie Apple Pie wrote:

Time for you to admit that you can�t refute my exegesis�

Your exegesis is in English. The Quran is Arabic. Thus, I find that it is difficult to follow your exegesis. I would gladly look deeper into your case if it were presented in the language of the scripture it is meant to interpret. This is merely my personal outlook on this matter.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 August 2005 at 4:56pm

Greetings Noah,

 

Thanks for your reply�

 

The work is not exclusively Jordan Maxwell's. But he is a great sholar, and evrybody is free to use his works. The last post ie. wasnt his but mine, written for articles that where posted on davidicke.com.

 

As im into the same kind of research as maxwell, and chose just to post his material rather than rewrite it, i can easily provide you with a litterature list, because there are certain books all researchers have to read.

 

 

You still plagiarized his �work�.

 

Period.

 

Thanks for not denying�

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

your still worshipping Horus, and trying to tell us that its the right thing to do.

 

Horus.

 

Horus, the morning star.

 

Sura 86, the morning star.

 

Please inform us how horus came to be contained in the Koran?

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 August 2005 at 5:00pm

Greetings Deus,

 

Thanks for your reply�

 

Apple Pie wrote:

Time for you to admit that you can�t refute my exegesis�

Your exegesis is in English. The Quran is Arabic. Thus, I find that it is difficult to follow your exegesis. I would gladly look deeper into your case if it were presented in the language of the scripture it is meant to interpret. This is merely my personal outlook on this matter.

 

You can find the Arabic script of my exegesis here�

 

 

http://www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=28737#28737

 

 

 

 

Thanks�

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 August 2005 at 5:49pm
Originally posted by Apple Pie Apple Pie wrote:

You can find the Arabic script of my exegesis here�

http://www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=28737#28737

All I see is Sura 86 in Arabic. Where is your exegesis in Arabic?

How do you explain the verses which clearly say Jesus is not God and that Jesus was not crucified? I think any Arabic speaking individual(regardless of religious background) would agree that the verses explicitly deny Jesus' divinity and crucification.

But what I am most eager to see is your rebuttal of Jordan Maxwell's theories, as presented by Noah. Not because they are anti-Christian, but because they are anti-religion altogether.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 August 2005 at 6:12pm

Greetings Deus,

 

Thanks for your reply�

All I see is Sura 86 in Arabic. Where is your exegesis in Arabic?

 

Perhaps you do not comprehend classic Arabic�as you are unable to refute my post in Arabic nor English�

 

Another stall on your part�

 

 

How do you explain the verses which clearly say Jesus is not God and that Jesus was not crucified?

There are none�

 

 

I think any Arabic speaking individual(regardless of religious background) would agree that the verses explicitly deny Jesus' divinity and crucification.

Please inform us just how speaking modern Arabic will �clarify� the written Classic Arabic of the Koran�?

 

 

But what I am most eager to see is your rebuttal of Jordan Maxwell's theories, as presented by Noah. Not because they are anti-Christian, but because they are anti-religion altogether.

 

Perhaps you can tell us why Horus, the morning star, is the title of sura 86�.?

 

 

Thanks�

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